Lindsay Graham says he'd go to war for Chik-Fil-A

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CFA decided to politicize the company's stance on gay rights. They initiated and continue to stand behind their bigotry toward gays.

Doesn't matter if their food is good or not, doesn't matter how much they pay their employees either. The owners took a stand on that issue and don't really care what others think of it. Sure it's a throwback attitude that will have to stand the test of time as the nation's attitudes become more liberal, more progressive.

Most folks who go there aren't knowledgeable of CFA's bias against gays and I'm sure CFA would like to keep it that way in order to avoid them further alienating their customer base.

However, in order to really mean what they say as far as being anti-gay, they should let their hair down and post signs in their storefront windows expressing their views on the matter and let their customers decide what to do about that.
Name that bigotry towards gays. Go on. Do tell.
 

MrSquished

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Can't boycott every company, or honestly, you wouldn't be able to shop most places for some reason. But, these companies that have deep religious and bigoted convictions or owners with the same views, I draw the line there. The right wing religious wing in this country is a huge reason why it's taken so long to make progress, and why we are regressing. So CFA gets the ban stick from me. I don't care how clean their stores are, the owner is a POS. And besides some franchisees that do their employees good, which to me is to that owner's credit, not to CFA corporate, I have yet to see any evidence that CFA is any better to employees on a corporate level than any other average fast food joint. Of course Nobody'sMind made that claim, and when asked for proof, disappears.
 
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Meghan54

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Can't boycott every company, or honestly, you wouldn't be able to shop most places for some reason. But, these companies that have deep religious and bigoted convictions or owners with the same views, I draw the line there. The right wing religious wing in this country is a huge reason why it's taken so long to make progress, and why we are regressing. So CFA gets the ban stick from me. I don't care how clean their stores are, the owner is a POS. And besides some franchisees that do their employees good, which to me is to that owner's credit, not to CFA corporate, I have yet to see any evidence that CFA is any better to employees on a corporate level than any other average fast food joint. Of course Nobody'sMind made that claim, and when asked for proof, disappears.

Amazing the way that seems to happen. Here one moment, his stench lingering like a wet chili fart, spouting bullshit and damned near threatening others, and then, like the mist, vanishes the moment light shines.
 

NWRMidnight

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January 6th Capital rioters were all traitors. Nothing to do with CFA. Plenty of people like myself eat at CFA and never think about the politics. We just want to eat good food with great customer service. Same reason I shop at Costco. They sell good products with great customer service. Same with Apple. I only care about their products and customer service unless they're advertising their politics in my face. Then it becomes a problem. CFA does not do that. It's the people In the far end of the spectrum who do that because they have nothing better to do with their time.

I agree about the rioters. I have a higher expectation on what I consider good quality customer service, and a much higher bar on what I consider quality food. I have been to CFA once.. I have no compelling reason to go back because they don't meet that expectation, as I have many better options.

As for not caring about a company's politics, advertised or not, you should. As they are the ones who spend millions lobbing for laws that for the most part do not benefit you or me, and you only support their cause by spending your money in their establishments.
 
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cytg111

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Lindsay is crazy. So are the protesters. People just want to be able to eat their chicken sandwich without screaming politics. And the only the crazies on both sides are making the politics the central issue when people just want to eat chicken sandwiches and CFA wants to sell chicken sandwiches. I'm pretty sure if they polled all the students at ND if they want CFA on campus or not, the majority would say they want CFA. No politics. No BS. If you don't like their food, don't eat there. You want to start competing chicken restaurant that caters to people who don't like CFA? Go ahead. But I have a feeling politics are super low on people's priority when it comes to them choosing where to eat.

The thing is though, most companies dont have a soul, they follow the money, so when you see Lego come out with rainbow colored unicorns its pretty simple, they are following the money, well paid tacticians in PR and marketing have come to the conclusion that this will sell more.

So in general, when companies take this turn, its cause this is the direction society at large is heading, and if that is in a direction of inclusion and compassion, then you would be satan to protest that.

NOW some companies have Ruperts and Pillow guys at the helm of operations. Morons. Bitches. I dont know who directs CFA but I sure as hell hope its a moron, cause the alternative, that it is an indication of direction of society at large, is so so SO much worse.
 

kage69

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January 6th Capital rioters were all traitors.

Correct. Now you just have to understand how this applies to the subject of the thread, Lady G.

Nothing to do with CFA. Plenty of people like myself eat at CFA and never think about the politics.

And here's where you lose people: this is a politics thread that involves food, not a food thread that involves politics. In a political forum. If you want to discuss food and only food without involving people like Graham ignoring their oaths of office to help out with a culture war, there's a forum for other threads for that. Your apathy towards the subject isn't an argument, and this thread isn't about overrated pickle brined chicken and employees who are forced to respond with "My pleasure."

We just want to eat good food with great customer service.

Insulate your self from reality over mediocre fastfood, ok, that is definitely your preogragotive, but don't accuse others of insanity when they aren't making your mistake of thinking this thread is about food quality. Some people don't feel comfortable financially supporting an org that actively strives against civil rights for gay people and women. That is no vice, and no different than the other side choosing how they spend their money.

Same reason I shop at Costco. They sell good products with great customer service. Same with Apple. I only care about their products and customer service unless they're advertising their politics in my face. Then it becomes a problem. CFA does not do that. It's the people In the far end of the spectrum who do that because they have nothing better to do with their time.

This thread is not about consumer choice, not sure how else I can say it. I do find it a bit sad you won't take note unless their 'advertising is in your face,' that you don't seem to care what they do with their money but will call out others consumers for taking an ethical stance on how they spend theirs. Sounds pompous and apathetic, but hey good to know you won't let the holy roller culture war prevent you from getting a chicken sandwich.
 

soundforbjt

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CFA has two stores in my area, the one near me is always empty and KFC, which is 200 yards away kicks their ass in sales. I have no idea how the other franchise is doing.
 

Stokely

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I actually like CFA (as far as fast food goes), better than KFC at any rate.

I have avoided them since it became clear they were (typical) Christian bigots. It's their right to hold their shitty attitudes, and it's my right to not give them money. Hopefully the trend that is seeing less religious uptake continues, I consider religions of most sorts (and the backwards xenophobic, anti-science leanings of their congregations) to be a huge threat to progress. No wonder they want to "make things great again", they are seeing their cults of superstitions shrinking as old people die off and young people decide it's all bullshit. Good.

Hobby Lobby is far worse and I make a point to drive me and the kids a bit further to another craft store if we need something like that.
 
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I actually like CFA (as far as fast food goes), better than KFC at any rate.

I have avoided them since it became clear they were (typical) Christian bigots. It's their right to hold their shitty attitudes, and it's my right to not give them money. Hopefully the trend that is seeing less religious uptake continues, I consider religions of most sorts (and the backwards xenophobic, anti-science leanings of their congregations) to be a huge threat to progress. No wonder they want to "make things great again", they are seeing their cults of superstitions shrinking as old people die off and young people decide it's all bullshit. Good.

Hobby Lobby is far worse and I make a point to drive me and the kids a bit further to another craft store if we need something like that.

Again - WHAT did Chick-Fil-A do that was so atrocious to the point of stopping your business? What shitty attitudes?

Sounds like you guys are the ones that are bigots lol.
 

fskimospy

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Again - WHAT did Chick-Fil-A do that was so atrocious to the point of stopping your business? What shitty attitudes?

Sounds like you guys are the ones that are bigots lol.
Chick Fil A routinely donated large amounts of money to anti-LGBT politicians and organizations in the past and their owner still does today. I personally don't boycott them but it's perfectly reasonable for someone to not want to put money in someone's pocket that he will then donate to bigots.

Does that clear it up?
 

IronWing

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Chick Fil A routinely donated large amounts of money to anti-LGBT politicians and organizations in the past and their owner still does today. I personally don't boycott them but it's perfectly reasonable for someone to not want to put money in someone's pocket that he will then donate to bigots.

Does that clear it up?
He knows that; he's choosing to ignore it.
 
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kage69

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Going grammar nazi over a company named Chick-Fil-A, there's a chuckle. If only you cared as much about your own argument, or lack thereof really.

Sounds like they cater to fans of fried food as well as idiots like you and Graham, people who believe this is about something a lot more tribal than fast food. Anyone who prefers companies to stick to selling food and/or who can detect overrated fare is clearly a latte drinkin, Grey Poupon using, avocado toast eater. That's not chicken you're enjoying, it's outrage over non-conservatives having the nerve to speak with their wallets the way conservatives do.

Boo fucking hoo I guess.
 

Stokely

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Again - WHAT did Chick-Fil-A do that was so atrocious to the point of stopping your business? What shitty attitudes?

Sounds like you guys are the ones that are bigots lol.

Ah, that old chestnut, those against prejudice are prejudiced!

The information about CFA and what they did, said and what they believe is out there. I am not going to do any research for anyone. It is hardly a huge effort on my part honestly to avoid spending money at one particular fast food joint, so it's not as if it's some huge sacrifice on my part, and I'm not pretending I'm saving the world doing it.

For anyone like me that hates uber-Christian nonsense when it rears its head there's five people that love it, I know this full well.
 

NWRMidnight

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But is it as bad as your grammar? It's fast food lol - not meant to cater to you folks that buy $8 avocado toast.
Their high prices for their mediocre chicken shows differently. Over charging for a product that people can get much cheaper somewhere else, with better quality, is not killing it, or doing better than anyone else. It's just shaking down people who have no clue about what good food is.
 

cytg111

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So its owned and run by the religious analog to the Afghan Taliban? Yea, why would you want to boycott that. Lady G is insane and in a hell 1000% of her own making.
 

ponyo

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Their high prices for their mediocre chicken shows differently. Over charging for a product that people can get much cheaper somewhere else, with better quality, is not killing it, or doing better than anyone else. It's just shaking down people who have no clue about what good food is.
I see this myth about CFA being overpriced come up all the time in every CFA thread. This is simply not true anymore and haven't been for past couple of years. I've been eating CFA since the 80's. They used to be more expensive than their competition back in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. But about past 5 or 6 years, all other places have increased their prices faster than CFA so now CFA is about the same or even cheaper than most of their competitors.

Where I live, price of CFA sandwich is $3.89. That's cheaper than Popeyes, KFC, Wendy's, and Burger King chicken sandwich or hamburger. You might not like the taste of CFA food, but it's not expensive compared to the competition. Not anymore.

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BlueWeasel

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Their high prices for their mediocre chicken shows differently. Over charging for a product that people can get much cheaper somewhere else, with better quality, is not killing it, or doing better than anyone else. It's just shaking down people who have no clue about what good food is.

Shaking down people? Didn't realize CFA was in the chicken sandwich racketeering business.

I know it's hard for many of the culinary snobs here to comprehend, but not all their patrons are morons. If the food was bad and overpriced, the majority of people would eat somewhere else. It's simple supply and demand.
 
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Jhhnn

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What does that have to do with a fast food restaurant that will continuously Trump and forever beat out the others? They will continue to expand like crazy, no matter how butt-hurt you cucks get about them donating money to the Salvation Army.

Yeh, but they seem to have decided they don't want the negative publicity of giving to anti-LGBTQ groups. It's a war they already lost.

 

NWRMidnight

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I see this myth about CFA being overpriced come up all the time in every CFA thread. This is simply not true anymore and haven't been for past couple of years. I've been eating CFA since the 80's. They used to be more expensive than their competition back in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. But about past 5 or 6 years, all other places have increased their prices faster than CFA so now CFA is about the same or even cheaper than most of their competitors.

Where I live, price of CFA sandwich is $3.89. That's cheaper than Popeyes, KFC, Wendy's, and Burger King chicken sandwich or hamburger. You might not like the taste of CFA food, but it's not expensive compared to the competition. Not anymore.

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I'm sorry, it's not a myth. Just because you can get a product cheaper than a competitor doesn't mean they are not more expensive. There is more to the equation than just the dollar amount. It's about what you get for that dollar. If the comparison's where apples to apples (same weight/quantity, same condiments, same quality of ingredients, etc.) CFA is still about 20% higher today.