I didn't say it was right I just said I would get pain killers in a heart beat, Come on everyone on this post knows why they are going after Rush, It is cause you don't like his views, As far as I have seen he hasn't done anything wrong but you all want to hang him, I have never heard him say anything bad about someone hooked on legal drugs and I at least scan his show everytime I am in the car and I feel the same way you say he does about people selling hard drugs, They are a ton of people in the same boat as him that are called great people, As much as he has been through I can see him very easy getting hooked on pain killers, I have a spine problem but mine was caused from a bullet, His was caused by a disk, I hope no one on this post ever has to put up with it but it will make the biggest man cry with pain, There is a lot of people that I can't stand so I don't tune them in or talk about them, I never could understand why so many people that hate Rush so bad can't wait to tune his show in or get on his show and make a fool of them selfs
Let me see if I can help. People come to the ER all the time seeking medication . . . particularly benzodiazepines (Valium) and opiates (OxyContin). No physician in their right mind or deserving of a license would ever dispense OxyContin from the ER. But poor people don't have many options so they give it whirl . . . complaining on nonspecific abdominal pain, back pain . . . physical exam findings are equivocal b/c many of these people are really bad actors. Plain film X-rays ($60) don't help. Female drug seekers may wind up with an ultrasound ($150) . . . and a poorly supervised intern may pull off an abdominal CT if a senior resident doesn't catch them in time. All for naught.
Wealthy people don't have this problem. They doctor shop. Doctors love fee-for-service and they love paying new customers. It is illegal for a physician to give more than a month's supply of opiates (or stimulants). In order to procure enough opiates to keep a buzz going you have two options: 1) buy it on the street or 2) visit multiple doctors and feign illness to get a prescription. The former is in the unlawful procurement of a controlled substance while the latter is . . . . drum roll . . . the unlawful procurement of a controlled substance.
Indiana Medicaid Drug Utilization Board . . . report on drug seekers
Fish have been caught with less evidence than Limbaugh
Of course, maybe Limbaugh acquired drugs for his fix by legal means
so I guess his housekeeper was blackmailing him for not withholding her FICA.
Wealthy people don't have this problem. They doctor shop. Doctors love fee-for-service and they love paying new customers. It is illegal for a physician to give more than a month's supply of opiates (or stimulants). In order to procure enough opiates to keep a buzz going you have two options: 1) buy it on the street or 2) visit multiple doctors and feign illness to get a prescription. The former is in the unlawful procurement of a controlled substance while the latter is . . . . drum roll . . . the unlawful procurement of a controlled substance.
Indiana Medicaid Drug Utilization Board . . . report on drug seekers
Fish have been caught with less evidence than Limbaugh
"It is a violation of Florida law to withhold information from a doctor that a person has sought the same medical services from another doctor," Ryan said. "In these cases made against the four suspects, the patient typically complains of an ailment and then attempts to obtain a prescription. That same patient then goes to another doctor with the same complaint, attempting to get a second prescription."[/quote]
Of course, maybe Limbaugh acquired drugs for his fix by legal means
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: Gaard
CAD - READ - "However if you want to debate the legality of the prescriptions - fine, but they both were prescribed meds, both got hooked, and both did not obtain them legitimately. Whether or not Farve got prescriptions for all of them doesn't mean that they were prescribed legitimately either, however - it may limit his legal liability."
Keep trying to pick it apart if you wish but the comments hold as originally stated.
No, your original statement was...<<Both got hooked, and I can say with 99% certainty that Farve did not obtain all his meds legally.>>
note the diference here...legal/legitimate
<--- realizes this whole Favre (correct spelling) debate is off topic, but also realizes CAD will do anything to keep from saying "Yeah, you're right. I was wrong."
Yeah, I'm wrong - everyone else is right. Happy?
DM is right.
Crazee it right.
Rush is guilty.
Rush is afforded every right to privacy you expect, he is also afforded the protection from wrongful search and seizure. He is also presumed innocent until proven guilty...IF he is ever charged that is.
But I forget - this is the internet court....guilty because you don't agree with them or like them.CkG
You are right the only reason people are jumping on Rush is because he is a republic who supports the drug war but does illegal drugs. If it was anyone else the republicans would be whining about the person getting off lite and the dems wou;d be calling the drug war a waste of time/money that could be spent looking for osma.
Drug seekers are a significant problem in healthcare. Florida directly addressed the issue by making it illegal to procure multiple prescriptions for the same ailment without informing your doctor(s). As pharmacies embrace the Electronic Age it is easier to track multiple scripts, new scritps, and patients with "suspicious" prescription patterns. For most pharmacists it's a safety issue not an attempt at law enforcement but it is incumbent upon them to contact physicians and make them aware that a patient has excess drugs. Physicians are then faced with a dilemna. In FL it is a violation of the law but I doubt physicians are legally compelled to report violators . . . unlike suspected child abuse.
If the authorities combed records looking for "suspicious" activity . . . aka provisions of the Patriot Act. I would call that fishing. When you have someone (the maid) that has presented evidence that another party (Limbaugh) paid for her to procure thousands of doses of Schedule II, III, and IV substances . . . looking at the medical record is not fishing . . . it's independent confirmation. Now Limbaugh's penile implant or sildenafil refills should not be released to police but the prescription record should be.
XMan
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If you read the court reporter's transcript of the case it indicates that Limbaugh saw four doctors - two hearing specialists when he was having ear problems, and two general practioners, one of which is his doctor, the other of which is a co-worker at the same practice who was filling in while his GP was on vacation.
How is that doctor shopping?
How is that doctor shopping?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Yeah, I'm wrong - everyone else is right. Happy?
DM is right.
Crazee it right.
Rush is guilty.
Rush is afforded every right to privacy you expect, he is also afforded the protection from wrongful search and seizure. He is also presumed innocent until proven guilty...IF he is ever charged that is.
CkG
That's nice, but I never declared he was guilty. Only that there seems to be enough "of interest" to this investigation to keep it going and that Rush should not be above the law if it's shown that he acted illegally in the course of acquiring his supply of Oxycontin. If anyone's out of line it's that loon who keeps claiming Teddy Kennedy ordered cocaine through the mail or whatever, yet can't provide any links. I'm just glad he's on your side . . .
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its not that he's just a republican and supports the war on drugs, but he made his living off excoriating people for not living up to his lofty moral standards. one that claimed to lead the fight for the nations morals. he was no normal republican or war on drugs supporter. he seeked to destroy others, and now expects himself to be spared. he is the worst kind of person.
Limbaugh fans are the self proclaimed good guys, the moral majority, the law abideing citisens & flag wavers,
but when Rush has an adictive personaity disorder and breaks the law
after he froths at the mouth on national radio as head of his hate group claiming that:
drug users should be hunted down and sent up the river, (as NBC quoted) (NBC? it was on national news any way.)
Limbaugh fans are more than willing to forgive him, followed by a million excuses.
Nobody should go to jail for drug abuse.
You can't blame a murder on the gun or the abuse on the drug.
There should be afordable help available for those who want it.
But Rush doesn't feel that way about any body but him & his hate group buddies. (but only the important ones)
It's people like Rush & his mindless followers that help keep the horible drug war going.
The drug war started in 1914 and was used to get rid of the Chineze that built our transcontenental railroad which created this country, BECAUSE they have different living standards & American's can't allow others to be different,
so since they used Opium, they used that to drive them out. California even had a law against Chineze people.
That's unconstutional. Just as many American laws are, especially the "Freedom act laws".
but when Rush has an adictive personaity disorder and breaks the law
after he froths at the mouth on national radio as head of his hate group claiming that:
drug users should be hunted down and sent up the river, (as NBC quoted) (NBC? it was on national news any way.)
Limbaugh fans are more than willing to forgive him, followed by a million excuses.
Nobody should go to jail for drug abuse.
You can't blame a murder on the gun or the abuse on the drug.
There should be afordable help available for those who want it.
But Rush doesn't feel that way about any body but him & his hate group buddies. (but only the important ones)
It's people like Rush & his mindless followers that help keep the horible drug war going.
The drug war started in 1914 and was used to get rid of the Chineze that built our transcontenental railroad which created this country, BECAUSE they have different living standards & American's can't allow others to be different,
so since they used Opium, they used that to drive them out. California even had a law against Chineze people.
That's unconstutional. Just as many American laws are, especially the "Freedom act laws".
Crazee
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Yeah, I'm wrong - everyone else is right. Happy?
DM is right.
Crazee it right.
Rush is guilty.
Rush is afforded every right to privacy you expect, he is also afforded the protection from wrongful search and seizure. He is also presumed innocent until proven guilty...IF he is ever charged that is.
CkG
Oh my God, please stop the poor pitiful victim crud! Where in this thread has anyone said Rush is guilty. I have gone out of my way to use words like accusation, charged and not guilty. So please stop the whining about how poor Rush is being judged guilty when no one here has done that.
My only argument with you was that you were using a flawed analogy to defend Rush.
Just a few people Clinton didn't have to Pardon.
1. James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent
heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's
investigation.
2. Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to
go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3. Vince Foster Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at
Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide.
4. Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have
died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported
that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At
the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his
willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5. C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund
raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6. Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a
hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend
and trusted advisor".
7. Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in
VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day
his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the
White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8. Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned
down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his
father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this
information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9. James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black
Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes
in Texas and Arkansas.
10. James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.
He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11. Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead
in May
1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even
though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere.
Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12. Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of
the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound. Also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13. Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a
window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14. Florence Martin Accountant and sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to
the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot
wounds.
15. Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas
Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a
suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16. Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her
death December
9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17. Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the
middle of his investigation.
18. Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro
and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his
Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks
before his death.
19. Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15,
1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20. Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown
and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised,
nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21. Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance. Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22. Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory
Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard,
in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's
mother, stepfather and brother.
23. Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas; death was no accident.
24. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the
trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a
utility pole.
25. Stanley Huggins Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported
suicide and his report was never released.
26. Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his
plane exploded.
27. Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say
the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A
controversial case, the initial report of death said . "due to falling asleep on
railroad tracks." Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being
placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could
come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION IN THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28. Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88.
29. Keith McMaskle Died. (A slight understatment) Stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988
30. Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31. Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33. James Milan Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due
to "natural causes".
34. Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup
truck in June 1990.
35. Richard Winters A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-
up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36. Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37. Captain Scott J. Reynolds
38. Sgt. Brian Hanley
39. Sgt. Tim Sabel
40. Major General William Robertson
41. Col. William Densberger
42. Col. Robert Kelly
43. Spec. Gary Rhodes
44. Steve Willis
45. Robert Williams
46. Conway LeBleu
47. Todd McKeehan
Well we have to say the Clinton's are killers and drug dealers and they still run the party, But Rush could be a doctor shopper and that is worse so he needs to be put away, I have so much on the left it isn't funny, This could go on for ever
1. James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent
heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's
investigation.
2. Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to
go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3. Vince Foster Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at
Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide.
4. Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have
died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported
that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At
the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his
willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5. C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund
raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6. Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a
hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend
and trusted advisor".
7. Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in
VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day
his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the
White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8. Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned
down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his
father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this
information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9. James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black
Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes
in Texas and Arkansas.
10. James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.
He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11. Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead
in May
1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even
though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere.
Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12. Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of
the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound. Also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13. Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a
window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14. Florence Martin Accountant and sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to
the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot
wounds.
15. Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas
Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a
suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16. Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her
death December
9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17. Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the
middle of his investigation.
18. Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro
and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his
Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks
before his death.
19. Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15,
1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20. Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown
and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised,
nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21. Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance. Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22. Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory
Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard,
in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's
mother, stepfather and brother.
23. Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas; death was no accident.
24. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the
trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a
utility pole.
25. Stanley Huggins Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported
suicide and his report was never released.
26. Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his
plane exploded.
27. Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say
the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A
controversial case, the initial report of death said . "due to falling asleep on
railroad tracks." Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being
placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could
come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION IN THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28. Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88.
29. Keith McMaskle Died. (A slight understatment) Stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988
30. Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31. Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33. James Milan Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due
to "natural causes".
34. Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup
truck in June 1990.
35. Richard Winters A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-
up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36. Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37. Captain Scott J. Reynolds
38. Sgt. Brian Hanley
39. Sgt. Tim Sabel
40. Major General William Robertson
41. Col. William Densberger
42. Col. Robert Kelly
43. Spec. Gary Rhodes
44. Steve Willis
45. Robert Williams
46. Conway LeBleu
47. Todd McKeehan
Well we have to say the Clinton's are killers and drug dealers and they still run the party, But Rush could be a doctor shopper and that is worse so he needs to be put away, I have so much on the left it isn't funny, This could go on for ever
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Could your list be generated by people trying to protect somebody or out to get somebody?
The original thrust of this thread was that Limbaugh was standing up on his soap box denouncing people for drug use.
He was exposed and the publicity is exposing his hypocracy.
How he was exposed is the subject of a conspiracy theory; others were gunning for him, yes. Was money paid to cover-up his problem, yes.
Why? Because he did not want his hypocracy discovered. Hush money/bribe - same thing - he was paying. Until his walls started tumbling down, he never said anything about the money. This red herring was put out at least 2 months after his troubles started.
If Rush saw ONLY four doctors and they prescribed the alleged volume of drugs to support his habit . . . somebody is going to lose their license. Rush will still be liable for violating FL law if he did not inform his doctor(s) that he allegedly had multiple scripts.
In reference to an earlier post . . . somebody has been reading the Clinton Chronicles . . . isn't it wonderful how Christian evangelicals spare no expense or offense to spread the Gospel?!
MNe thinks you tin foil hat is to tight and is cutting off the circulation of blood to your head
Could your list be generated by people trying to protect somebody or out to get somebody?
1 who is MNe and the other OUT TO GET SOMEBODY, Like the left is not out to get Rush, My post is true can you say the same for the bs that I have been hearing about Rush, First info was leaked that he was using illegal drugs with his pain killers, That turned out to be false next infor was leaked that he was in a drug ring, That turned out to be false, Next info was leaked that he was laundering money and that to was false, Eveything points to the prosecuting attorney that is leaking the lies to the news, That tells me he doesn't think things will go his way so he is trying every thing he can to get Rush, Now he wants Rush's medical recorders to prove he didn't do anything, Clinton would not give up his in 8 years, Since when do you have to give up your right and prove you didn't do something or does the left have rights the anyone that is on the right doesn't, This is turning into a joke and as always the left looks like asses
Could your list be generated by people trying to protect somebody or out to get somebody?
1 who is MNe and the other OUT TO GET SOMEBODY, Like the left is not out to get Rush, My post is true can you say the same for the bs that I have been hearing about Rush, First info was leaked that he was using illegal drugs with his pain killers, That turned out to be false next infor was leaked that he was in a drug ring, That turned out to be false, Next info was leaked that he was laundering money and that to was false, Eveything points to the prosecuting attorney that is leaking the lies to the news, That tells me he doesn't think things will go his way so he is trying every thing he can to get Rush, Now he wants Rush's medical recorders to prove he didn't do anything, Clinton would not give up his in 8 years, Since when do you have to give up your right and prove you didn't do something or does the left have rights the anyone that is on the right doesn't, This is turning into a joke and as always the left looks like asses
Actually I think he was a victim of a lack of character, You talking about B Baby Doc or someone else Moonbeam, You know it use to be fun to come to the cereal bowl and laugh at some of the people but it isn't much fun anymore, Yes I believe in God and I am proud of it, I love the men in the service and I am proud of it, I have saved lives and gave my life as I knew it in war and I am proud of it, I have been put down for all three in here, The sad thing is what do the people on the left have to be proud of, I am not happy saying that
Great. Good for you. Is that your WHOLE life story? Or is there more? Frankly, I'm getting awfully tired of your off-topic posts. If you could read, you'd notice this thread is about Limbaugh -- not Teddy Kennedy or Clinton or whomever you have a hard-on for today. If you want to spew conspiracy theories, why don't you and Cad go start your own thread where you can rant about whatever half-assed Oxycontin-induced slander of the left your walnut-sized brain can concoct.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: Crazee
Yeah, I'm wrong - everyone else is right. Happy?
DM is right.
Crazee it right.
Rush is guilty.
Rush is afforded every right to privacy you expect, he is also afforded the protection from wrongful search and seizure. He is also presumed innocent until proven guilty...IF he is ever charged that is.
CkG
Oh my God, please stop the poor pitiful victim crud! Where in this thread has anyone said Rush is guilty. I have gone out of my way to use words like accusation, charged and not guilty. So please stop the whining about how poor Rush is being judged guilty when no one here has done that.
My only argument with you was that you were using a flawed analogy to defend Rush.
Seems you still don't understand my original comments.
"Makes little difference in the Limbaugh case though. However I will make one comment about abusing prescription pain pills. A certain professional athlete was once addicted to the same/similar drugs as Rush was. That athlete is still a considered a good rolemodel for the youth of America by some and infact he will is arguably one of the best to play the game. If you watched ABC last night you would have seen him play one of his best games ever. Now, again - none of this excuses what both of these people did - abuse prescription drugs, but it also doesn't make them worse than you or me."
Now again - what I said did not say EVERYTHING was the same, but they are infact similar. PLUS - there was no attempt to defend anyone, notice the "none of this excuses what both of these people did" part of my original statement. Wow - whodda thunk it- People taking my comments and trying to ignore some and twist others parts. Now if you'd kindly drop your attack on my "flawed analogy to defend Rush", then maybe we can discuss something more relevant. There are MANY similarities in their cases and the ones I pointed out are infact true.
Now to your comments on guilt. Sure you may not have said he was guilty, but the attitude here and in every thread that this gets brought up in - people have him condemned before he is even charged or formally accused. Don't mind he wasn't the target of an investigation when this all broke, and was only now possibly being investigated is because of the circus that insued.
Seems like alot of you are trying to make a bigger deal of this than it really is. It's nice you have Rush as some big prize you are trying to bring down. Yea! go get 'em if it helps you sleep at night.
PS - the med records are now resealed - pending appeal
CkG
Hmmmm, when did I (or anyone in this thread) make damning statements against drug users year after year and then go abuse prescription drugs for years (allegedly obtained through illegal means) and then expect to get off without so much as a whimper from local prosecutors? Oh yeah, that never happened. But please, tell me more about how Rush is just like you and me.
I hope I wouldn't expend the lives of people like you unjustly or for false reasons. You have your opinion of what justice is and I have mine. I don't blame you one whit for what you have been; I care only about what you will be. The past is over, the future has yet to begin. If you lock yourself to what was and try to justify that, you will determine your future thereby. There is no difference between those who blame you and those who justify. Both fix and lock their minds.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
And Rush is a prize to bring down, why?
Rush's comments on drugs in the past do not matter in this case. They are not evidence, and they don't fit anyway...except to those who consider Rush a prize to bring down.
Keep trying
CkG
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No it seems you don't understand mine.
They are NOT similar in a two very key areas - Rush may possibly faces charges. Favre did not face that possibility, it was never brought up. So one may have violated the law the other didn't.
Also, I don't recall Favre ever coming out with statements railing on drug addicts, etc. So Favre was not being a hypocrite, Rush was. Therefore flawed analogy.
First off I haven't ignored any parts of your statements, you are the one who still refuses to acknowledge the two major differences that make this a very flawed analogy. So please if you would drop your "taking my comments and trying to ignore some and twist others" crud. We could move on to something more relevant.
Now to your comments on guilt. Sure you may not have said he was guilty, but the attitude here and in every thread that this gets brought up in - people have him condemned before he is even charged or formally accused. Don't mind he wasn't the target of an investigation when this all broke, and was only now possibly being investigated is because of the circus that insued.
Seems like alot of you are trying to make a bigger deal of this than it really is. It's nice you have Rush as some big prize you are trying to bring down. Yea! go get 'em if it helps you sleep at night.
Please point out for me where I have condemned him. Please. You can't because I haven't. You may think this is some conspiracy to "get" Rush, but it isn't.
Anytime in history when someone has been as publicly hypocritical as Rush has in this case - They created the circus not anyone else. Conservatives didn't make the Gary Hart situation into a circus, that nitwit did when he said "I'm not having an affair, you can follow me around"
Anyone who makes grand proclamations about what punishments others should suffer when in fact they themselves are guilty of it always draw out a circus.PS - the med records are now resealed - pending appeal
Did you expect this to upset me? Wrong. I am glad that legal procedure is being followed so that no matter how this turns out he will have gotten a fair process. I don't want him found guilty if he is not. I don't have the blood lust you seem to think I have for him.
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