Limbaugh : I hope Obama fails!

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taltamir

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fuck medicare... BAILOUT! Dear fucking lord bailout!

Anyways, rather than wishing it will fail (And hurt me), I wish that it works perfectly and proves me wrong.... but that if it DOES fail people will learn from it.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: taltamir
fuck medicare... BAILOUT! Dear fucking lord bailout!

Anyways, rather than wishing it will fail (And hurt me), I wish that it works perfectly and proves me wrong.... but that if it DOES fail people will learn from it.
I think the odds of something failing is Limbaugh's heart due to his drug use and his obesity. The world or at least the airwaves will become a tad bit better if that were to happen.

 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I realize someone probably pointed this out already... But the OP's headline is pretty much the opposite of what Limbaugh actually said... Not that 2/3 of you actually care about the truth in such matters...

HANNITY: Coming off record-ratings year for you, but you ? you are a passionate conservative. You've defined conservatives for many people in this country for years. He represents the antithesis in terms of his world view.

So then the question becomes, do you want him to succeed?

LIMBAUGH: Now ? this ? I am so glad that he asked me that question. That you asked me this question.

HANNITY: I'm glad to.

LIMBAUGH: I'll tell you why. I am hearing many Republicans say that ? well, we want him to succeed and prominent Republicans. Yes, we wanted ? they have laid down. They have totally ? they're drinking the Kool- Aid, too. They have no guts to stand up for what their beliefs are because they're afraid of criticism, they're afraid of being called racists, they're afraid of not having gotten with the program.

Now success can be defined two ways. I said earlier I don't know about this guy. I really don't. I've got my ? I've got my suspicions, and they're pretty close to convictions, but we're going to have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan, if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln, and if he does cut some taxes.

HANNITY: Yes.

LIMBAUGH: If he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan, but if he's going to do FDR, if he's going to do the new, new deal all over which we will call here the raw deal, why would I want him to succeed?

Look, he's my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. I ? if he is going to implement a far left ? look it. I think it's already decided. $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government. I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation.

If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it's over, Sean. We're never going to roll that back. That's the end of America as we have known it because that's then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided.

Why would I want that to succeed? I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future, it's not what made this country great.

So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail, if his agenda is a far- left collectivism, some people say socialism, as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?

When you put it into context, Limbaugh is saying a lot more than just wishing blanket failure on Obama. He's opposing (or more correctly would oppose) an Obama presidency that sought to drive this country into a European socialist type democracy. And I agree with that.

That said, I haven't seen that from him just yet. I hope I can continue to say that over the next few months as his agenda moves forward.

Yea, that point was made several times, and ignored every time too.
 

Steeplerot

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So this is all Conservatives have? You want Obama to fail because you do not want USA to be "Socialist"?
I never heard the same about Bush and Conservatism. People disliked him because he sucked.
Defending the failed ideology of Conservatism just because you think "European" and "Socialism" is a bad word ahead of what actually works or the good of the country/working class (despite their own best interests even!) is plain ignorant.
But what can you expect from people who think in us vs. them terms blindly.
I would bet 99% of these Conservatives do not even know what Democratic Socialism is besides some asstard told them it is teh ebil and is not on "our team".

Rush Limbaugh and friends are NOT on your team, you are NOT part of the top 1% where they want to concentrate the wealth (themselves) you have a better chance playing the lottery, and lying and stealing and screwing people is NOT a acceptable way to get there. Conservatism is bankrupt, time for the right to grow up and face reality, or it is going to be a very cold time for "your team".
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
A liberal flat out lying about a conservative big shot like Limbaugh, what a shock that is. Not.

Hahaha, you accusing someone else of lying, how priceless.
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed

... failed ideology of Conservatism....Conservatism is bankrupt.

What specifically about conservatism is a failure? How is Conservatism bankrupt?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed

... failed ideology of Conservatism....Conservatism is bankrupt.

What specifically about conservatism is a failure? How is Conservatism bankrupt?
I think he meant the current version of Republican conservatism.

 

BarneyFife

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I saw Rush Limbaugh yesterday and he physically looks like a mess. He's only 58 but he looks like he's 68.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed

... failed ideology of Conservatism....Conservatism is bankrupt.

What specifically about conservatism is a failure? How is Conservatism bankrupt?
I think he meant the current version of Republican conservatism.

The other Red nailed it. The blindly nationalist, militarist, fearmongering, reactionary, fundamentalist pandering, neo-liberal, corporate wealth envying, class warfare promoting Conservatism we all have come to know and love since Reagan.
 

taltamir

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conservatism: conserve the values of the past. I don't need to think, someone else will do it for me and I will just obey. If it was good enough for my parents it is good enough for me. Maintain the status quo.
liberalism: illogical emotional responses to everything, an intense desire to be nice that overpowers common sense or logic. A person so open minded their brain has fallen out.

"If a child is not a liberal, he has no heart. If an adult is a liberal, he has no brain".

I despise both, for different reasons. Get a brain, and start using it, than you are neither a conservative nor a liberal (although you might agree more with one group or the other)

American conservatives just happen to be a little better at running the economy (because the are trying to conserve the economic systems and ideals which the founding fathers put in place, which were very much geared towards freedom and equality, things liberals like to champion). American conservatives are also much more likely to retaliate against enemies instead of sprinkling them with flowers...
On the other hand, the American conservatives are married to religion, and insist on pushing it and its failed ideals at every point.
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I realize someone probably pointed this out already... But the OP's headline is pretty much the opposite of what Limbaugh actually said... Not that 2/3 of you actually care about the truth in such matters...

HANNITY: Coming off record-ratings year for you, but you ? you are a passionate conservative. You've defined conservatives for many people in this country for years. He represents the antithesis in terms of his world view.

So then the question becomes, do you want him to succeed?

LIMBAUGH: Now ? this ? I am so glad that he asked me that question. That you asked me this question.

HANNITY: I'm glad to.

LIMBAUGH: I'll tell you why. I am hearing many Republicans say that ? well, we want him to succeed and prominent Republicans. Yes, we wanted ? they have laid down. They have totally ? they're drinking the Kool- Aid, too. They have no guts to stand up for what their beliefs are because they're afraid of criticism, they're afraid of being called racists, they're afraid of not having gotten with the program.

Now success can be defined two ways. I said earlier I don't know about this guy. I really don't. I've got my ? I've got my suspicions, and they're pretty close to convictions, but we're going to have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan, if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln, and if he does cut some taxes.

HANNITY: Yes.

LIMBAUGH: If he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan, but if he's going to do FDR, if he's going to do the new, new deal all over which we will call here the raw deal, why would I want him to succeed?

Look, he's my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. I ? if he is going to implement a far left ? look it. I think it's already decided. $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government. I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation.

If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it's over, Sean. We're never going to roll that back. That's the end of America as we have known it because that's then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided.

Why would I want that to succeed? I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future, it's not what made this country great.

So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail, if his agenda is a far- left collectivism, some people say socialism, as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?

When you put it into context, Limbaugh is saying a lot more than just wishing blanket failure on Obama. He's opposing (or more correctly would oppose) an Obama presidency that sought to drive this country into a European socialist type democracy. And I agree with that.

That said, I haven't seen that from him just yet. I hope I can continue to say that over the next few months as his agenda moves forward.

Yea, that point was made several times, and ignored every time too.


Ok so we'll go with your point. Since Bush implimented almost the 1st trillion of this new "socialism" did Limbaugh ever wish for the failure of Bush? 2/3 of people have it right he is an intellectually dishonest POS.

 

HomerJS

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Here's a much funnier example of listening to Limbaugh's words. Methinks he's having a Dominican flashback.

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xenolith

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I too am outraged someone like Rush would say that he hopes President Obama fails to meet America?s challenges by implementing his stated policies.

I've always believed in the right of free speech, especially when it comes to the right to criticize any administration's policies. Hillary Clinton said it best when she passionately said, "...we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration..."

But, it's 2009, it's the start of a new era, the sky is now brighter, the grass is now greener, and we now have a "new kind of President." With a "nuance" of principles, we should now suspend the 1st Amendment's freedom-of-speech when it comes to any criticism of this administration.

All opposition to the state must be silenced, if only for the good of the country! The stakes are now too high!
 

nyker96

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I think it's ok for Rush to disagree with Obama, heck not everything he does will succeed. But hope he fails maybe too much, but still he is just a political entertainer, not anyone worth of the time and energy to argue with. Whatever he believes he believes. if he really want to do something right run for office and put some of his policies to work and see how they work in real life.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: xenolith
I too am outraged someone like Rush would say that he hopes President Obama fails to meet America?s challenges by implementing his stated policies.

I've always believed in the right of free speech, especially when it comes to the right to criticize any administration's policies. Hillary Clinton said it best when she passionately said, "...we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration..."

But, it's 2009, it's the start of a new era, the sky is now brighter, the grass is now greener, and we now have a "new kind of President." With a "nuance" of principles, we should now suspend the 1st Amendment's freedom-of-speech when it comes to any criticism of this administration.

All opposition to the state must be silenced, if only for the good of the country! The stakes are now too high!

Are you an idiot? Nobody is saying Rush doesn't have the right to say these things, just that he's a turd for saying them. Then again, Rush is a worthless turd for a lot of the things he does, so I'm not exactly sure why this is news.
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: xenolith
I too am outraged someone like Rush would say that he hopes President Obama fails to meet America?s challenges by implementing his stated policies.

I've always believed in the right of free speech, especially when it comes to the right to criticize any administration's policies. Hillary Clinton said it best when she passionately said, "...we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration..."

But, it's 2009, it's the start of a new era, the sky is now brighter, the grass is now greener, and we now have a "new kind of President." With a "nuance" of principles, we should now suspend the 1st Amendment's freedom-of-speech when it comes to any criticism of this administration.

All opposition to the state must be silenced, if only for the good of the country! The stakes are now too high!

Are you an idiot? Nobody is saying Rush doesn't have the right to say these things, just that he's a turd for saying them. Then again, Rush is a worthless turd for a lot of the things he does, so I'm not exactly sure why this is news.

Nobody? Then what's the point of DCCC's petition and fund raising if it's not another feeble effort from the left to pressure him to shut up? It's reminiscent of Harry Reid's embarrassing attempt to pressure the CEO of Clear Channel to publicly denounce Rush for his "phony troops" comment.

Face it lefties, you guys have been slobbering over yourselves for years to find any way you can to shut him up. It galls you that conservative partisans have had such a long, lone, successful monopoly on talk radio.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Are you an idiot? Nobody is saying Rush doesn't have the right to say these things, just that he's a turd for saying them. Then again, Rush is a worthless turd for a lot of the things he does, so I'm not exactly sure why this is news.

Nobody? Then what's the point of DCCC's petition and fund raising if it's not another feeble effort from the left to pressure him to shut up? It's reminiscent of Harry Reid's embarrassing attempt to pressure the CEO of Clear Channel to publicly denounce Rush for his "phony troops" comment.

Face it lefties, you guys have been slobbering over yourselves for years to find any way you can to shut him up. It galls you that conservative partisans have had such a long, lone, successful monopoly on talk radio.

Your link in no way supports your argument.

Please tell me where in that letter, anywhere, it calls for either censoring Rush Limbaugh or preventing him from sharing his views in any way. It's a fundraising letter so that the Democrats end up benefiting from yet another one of Rush's mind bogglingly stupid statements.

Telling people that Rush Limbaugh is a scumbag is: A.) factually accurate and B.) free speech of its own. So what's your problem with them calling him out? If you want to go make yourself stupider by listening to him, by all means go ahead. Mega dittos!
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: nyker96
I think it's ok for Rush to disagree with Obama, heck not everything he does will succeed. But hope he fails maybe too much, but still he is just a political entertainer, not anyone worth of the time and energy to argue with. Whatever he believes he believes. if he really want to do something right run for office and put some of his policies to work and see how they work in real life.

At this point he has more clout and pull than any other republican.
 

BMW540I6speed

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Originally posted by: Kanalua
At least Rush has come up with a smart Bi-partisan stimulus proposal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123318906638926749.html

The One could not even get one Republican to vote for his stimulus in the House...the opposition to his porkulus plan is bipartisan, 11 Democrats voted against the porkulus...

Lol!..One needs to ask how many votes Rush has... I guess they'll find out the answer to that question soon enough, since they obviously weren't observant enough to figure it out after the last two election cycles.

Todays 21st century Republicanism, the Propaganda Ministry runs the GOP, first, last, and always. I'm not surprised that any elected official pales before the Republican propaganda minister Limbaugh.

Kowtowing to the corpulent junkie such as Limbaugh is one of the reasons that has driven the formerly legit Republican party into the wilderness. An increasing majority of Americans don't want anything to do with this sort of petulant, crybaby whining; they want results and actual leadership.

And look who's leading the GOP. Well, as of today, we know who wears the pants in the GOP. If you were wondering, it's not the party's elected officials. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) criticized radio host Rush Limbaugh for his attacks on the party's congressional leadership.

?I mean, it?s easy if you?re Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks. You don?t have to try to do what?s best for your people and your party. You know you?re just on these talk shows and you?re living well and plus you stir up a bit of controversy and gin the base and that sort of that thing. But when it comes to true leadership, not that these people couldn?t be or wouldn?t be good leaders, they?re not in that position of John Boehner or Mitch McConnell."

One day later, apparently cowed by the angry response he received, Gingrey was singing a different tune.

What a complete pussy!. Some in the GOP clearly hasn't learned its lesson. Keep relying on Rush Limbaugh and his dittohead listeners as your base and you'll remain way out in Siberia with your influence growing ever fainter. His little political party, commandeered by a walking heart attack and his mouthbreathing minions. Who, when called upon to stop Obama, couldn't muster the votes. The way Gingrey kow-towed here is telling. However, at this juncture, it looks like the brains behind the GOP operations have gotten their math wrong. There are just not as many dumb voters out there as they thought. So, the Republican party, both it's elected officials and it's grassroots, has officially decided: Rush Limbaugh is the republican answer to Barak Obama?

Then again, they are certainly not going to give up their position as the defender of the top of the pyramid in the class-warfare struggle. While their voting base consists of the bottom of the pyramid, the financial (political) power comes from the top. Remember Lincoln's adage about fooling all the people some of the time?

Here's another doosy from Gingrey's statement:

"Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich, and other conservative giants are the voices of the conservative movement?s conscience"

Wow!...A Republcan congressman has named a couple of radio talk show hosts who are nothing but two-bit entertainers, a conservative giant?, voices of their minds? Holy shit! This is amazing. Now we know how low the Republican party has sunk in its feeble quest for ideas. Whats next, the Democrats calling on John Stewart for advice about how to run the country. I think they get the difference between entertainment and actual policy.

This dumb shit should bother rational Republican supporters and actual elected republicans...That they have to cowtow to a man who doesn't have to do the legwork. Rush doesn't have to go into congress everyday and deal with the democrats. He doesn't have to do anything except sit behind a microphone and complain about things, bitch & moan. The irony is he is everything the Republicans say they hate: Lazy entertainers who don't contribute anything to society but still think they are qualified to comment on political issues.

This man doesn't do anything for the party except rally a base that was already going to vote for them and alienate potential new voters.