Limbaugh : I hope Obama fails!

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: sportage
I can not believe anyone would start a thread about what some druggie fat guy says on the radio. And who in their right mind would listen to that station.
Sheeeez... there's plenty of music stations on there too.
Or just turn off the radio and listen to your wife bitch about your driving...

Ps... Isnt this the same druggie fat guy that thought if republicans jumped on the Obama band wagon, pretending to be Obama fans, that they could destroy Hillary's chances, then easily defeat Obama in the election??? Isnt this the same fat guy??? :laugh: :laugh:

I think the fat druggie is offended by the crazy ideas that the black druggie has.

Are you going to be doing this for the next 4 years? At the moment I'm sort of enjoying watching you flail around, but I'm sure it's going to get old soon.

 

[Lemon law]

There may be some validity to the Budmanton contention of "I think the fat druggie is offended by the crazy ideas that the black druggie has." ,even if its is more accurate put as the skinny ex druggie.

But as Sid Caesar used to put it, an interesting thing happened on the way to the forums. If Rush Limbaugh wants to define himself as Mr. Republican, the candidate he touted, namely Fred Thompson, failed miserably during the republican primaries, this is the GOP electorate we are talking about, and they selected exactly Rush's last choice to be the GOP nominee for POTUS. So tell me again, exactly why we should consider
Rush Limbaugh as a creditable driving force in national politics. If you can't carry your base, it makes Rush Limbaugh odd man out.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: sportage
I can not believe anyone would start a thread about what some druggie fat guy says on the radio. And who in their right mind would listen to that station.
Sheeeez... there's plenty of music stations on there too.
Or just turn off the radio and listen to your wife bitch about your driving...

Ps... Isnt this the same druggie fat guy that thought if republicans jumped on the Obama band wagon, pretending to be Obama fans, that they could destroy Hillary's chances, then easily defeat Obama in the election??? Isnt this the same fat guy??? :laugh: :laugh:

I think the fat druggie is offended by the crazy ideas that the black druggie has.

Are you going to be doing this for the next 4 years? At the moment I'm sort of enjoying watching you flail around, but I'm sure it's going to get old soon.

I hope I'm not offending anybody with the black racist druggie comments.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

I hope I'm not offending anybody with the black racist druggie comments.

They aren't offensive, they're boring.

 

[kage69]

Speaking of drug abusing...... it just makes me think of Barrack Hussein Obama.

That's not surprising. Drugs are the most likely culprit for those like you who keep trying to make an issue out of Obama's middle name.

I swear, listening to your kind fixate on the guys name while at the same time expecting to be taken seriously over real issues - quite a feat! It's like watching a retard smack himself in the face with a hammer and then act smug about it. I can't decide if it's funny or just sad.


Guess this means Limbaugh is back to "carrying water."

 

[DealMonkey]

What's all the fuss? El Rushbo is just saying out loud what all of the Republicans are thinking! Right?! Am I right?!? Of course I am.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What's all the fuss? El Rushbo is just saying out loud what all of the Republicans are thinking! Right?! Am I right?!? Of course I am.

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No you are dead wrong as I pointed out in my previous post, the candidates Rush touted in the GOP primaries lost miserably, this is the GOP electorate we are taking about, no democratic input at all, but even the GOP electorate overwhelmingly rejected Rush Limbaugh and the ideas he stood for.

Tell us again, Deal Monkey, how Rush represents what Republicans are thinking when the results in the GOP primaries say loud and clear, you are wrong wrong wrong, and wrong again.

Rush may represent the ideals of Deal Monkey, but that only groups Rush and DealMonkey into a minority lunatic fringe. And if the shoe fits wear it, you may claim to be smarter than the average Republican, but you can't claim the average Republican believes you.

 

[Jhhnn]

Given the epic failure of repub policy, it's no surprise that the Right wants Obama to fail- misery loves company. Or maybe Rush is worried about Dems raising taxes on his enormous salary- $30M in 2005, estimated at $50M today-

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/YNXQ.html

The notion that he's not influential is foolish, given his ranking by Forbes...

Righties are near frantic, simply because with the mess they've left behind, any success by Dems and Obama will likely lock them out of power, into the wilderness, for a couple of decades. Few of them are quite so blind as spidey- they know it's their mess, their failure, and that their own ideology of greed created it. Their only hope is that Obama fail too...

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
A little socialism, a little capitalism, some liberal, some conservative, not going to extremes on any of them makes this country work.

BINGO.:thumbsup:

On a different note, 6 years of complete control of the government by the neocons and effectively obstructing progress of the last two will have an effect that lasts a whole lot longer than the Bushies will admit to.

Bush and the folks that controlled him put into place policies that will negatively affect this nation long term. Obama will have to dig at and pry loose every one of these destructive policies one at a time, a very time cosuming process, and all of which were meant to .....

I get nervous when I start hearing a plea for middle of the road politics. Too often I find that middle of the road doesn't mean moderation; only indecision and inconfidence. Also, there are times when you shouldn't even consider the opposing view point.

Very often, indecision is more destructive than making the wrong decision.

I'm not knocking moderation, I'm simply saying it's not the all encompassing answer.

Good point, and I appreciate your mentioning it. That sort of reminds me in some ways of the "design by committie" format that a couple of the big three auto makers used to flesh out their future car models. What a disaster that proved to be. Here we have a team of egotisitcal, self-serving career-minded individuals with equal say, all trying to build in as much of themselves into the finished product as possible. The end result were designs built on a platform of compromises, back-stabbing and glory-grabbing rather than a design that the buying public would go crazy over.

In their effort to have consensus on a single design that nobody could really like because each individual on the committie couldn't have everything all their way, a POS middle of the road product gets put into production and doesn't sell well.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: EXman
Cow towing to the UN and appeasement to the world in general.

What's this "Cow Towing" that you speak of?

It's me being retarded

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What's all the fuss? El Rushbo is just saying out loud what all of the Republicans are thinking! Right?! Am I right?!? Of course I am.

No, just the 25% who still thought Bush was doing a good job.

Rush is free to spout whatever nonsense he likes and the rest of us are free not to listen to him.

 

[Lemon law]

If we look at the larger sweep of history, yesteryears radical ideas get gradually get accepted, later they become mainstream, still later they become conservative dogma, and then as times and peoples change, newer and more radical ideas come along, as the cycle repeats.

But its not an usually smooth progression, and its interesting that perhaps the definitive books on the great depression started out with a book titled the crisis of the old order. As the last vestiges of European royalty lost tremendous influence in the 1900-1910 time frame, of course WW1 followed, and what formerly stabilized the old order was gone in that aftermath. By the end of WW2 those former colonial empires
were gone or on their last legs.

And now we are stuck in somewhat two crises of the old order, with a collapse of the old cold war system, and the fact that not only is colonialism totally Kaput, but American and European economic dominance over various formerly colonial possessions is now firmly being rejected by their populations. The days when Kissinger could confidently state, oil is too important to be left to the Arabs is fast ending and can only be propped up by unsustainable military force.

The Limbaugh question is how far out of date he is in these times, and while Limbaugh is able to shed much heat and fantasy, Limbaugh seems unable to contribute any ideas, as an old order is poised to be swept away, as new ideas and political alignments seem ready to dominate our futures.

 

[Duwelon]

A liberal flat out lying about a conservative big shot like Limbaugh, what a shock that is. Not.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
A liberal flat out lying about a conservative big shot like Limbaugh, what a shock that is. Not.

I hope all the policies Duwelon stands for and believes passionately in FAIL

^^^^^^^ what does that say?

I like Duwelon and hope he doesn't fail.. but I want everything he believes in and campaigned for and got elected to do.. to be FAILURES

twist it however you want.. he is just a miserable ex drug addict and potential third world underaged hooker banger..

Defend him all you want.. AND you should hope he is not a big shot.. but people like you make him one... uke;

 

[Lemon law]

In terms of gauging Rush Limbaugh type strength at the ballot box, a quick trip to Wiki showed 131, 237,603 Presidential votes were cast in 2008. Of course we can't expect those numbers to be totally accurate down to the last vote, but the raw numbers are impressive. Obama Biden got roughly 69.5 million votes and McCain Palin got just under 60 million votes. Various third parties got 1.4% of the vote with Nader doing much better than Bob Barr in the top 2 of the third parties. Subtract out Nadar and Barr, and the rest of the third parties got 0.44% of the vote.

The last estimate of Rush Limbaugh listeners is some 13.7 million loyal listeners, and assuming all can and did vote in 2008, and you get a basic 22.85% of Republican votes in 2008, fairly close to the nobodyknows 25% estimate. Compare 13.7 million to the 131.2376 and you are down to 10.44% of the American electorate.

So the somewhat question is, with numbers that small, does Rush have anywhere to go but up? Which is basically, IMHO, a two part conditional. First, Obama has to fail, still very possible even if his ideas are right, it going to be almost impossible to correct the mess we are now in, especially in a time frame of only four years. And then secondly, if Obama fails, Rush Limbaugh type ideas only gain credibility if more people think Limbaugh ideas are better. And then further fighting any acceptance of Limbaugh ideas is the horribly fractured Limbaugh logic that turn off the think for themselves people of all political persuasions.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
A liberal flat out lying about a conservative big shot like Limbaugh, what a shock that is. Not.

Nah, this is just like the McNab thing, right? Rush is the real victim here, right? Drive-by media, megadittos, democrat agenda, blah blah f'n blah. Apparently el Fatbo the ginormous attention whore, needed some more attention. And like the bloated retard he is, he'll take negative attention over no attention any day.

 

[kage69]

There are plenty of others, but those are the ones I have personally listened to enough to comment on fairly. As a conservative, it bothers me much less to hear a liberal windbag making an ass of himself than it does to hear a so-called conservative railing on like a moron and making us all look like fools.

Exactly! 'Worrying about your own camp' largely went out the window just before the war, and has been in short supply since. The right-wing blowhards have the added habit of invoking religion for their ends, making them even more distasteful.

That's my general theory behind Ann Coulter's jaw. I think some cranky old vet couldn't take it anymore and went and paid her a visit.

Anyway, my only beef with your list would be over Sean Hannity and his supposed avoidance of being caught in hypocritical stances. He may have displayed that before the election to a degree, but I saw him get stomped by an Obama staffer during the Rev. Wright flap making him look like quite the loudmouth hypocrite. You could tell it landed home too as Sean's behavior immediately changed in that interview.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I realize someone probably pointed this out already... But the OP's headline is pretty much the opposite of what Limbaugh actually said... Not that 2/3 of you actually care about the truth in such matters...

HANNITY: Coming off record-ratings year for you, but you ? you are a passionate conservative. You've defined conservatives for many people in this country for years. He represents the antithesis in terms of his world view.

So then the question becomes, do you want him to succeed?

LIMBAUGH: Now ? this ? I am so glad that he asked me that question. That you asked me this question.

HANNITY: I'm glad to.

LIMBAUGH: I'll tell you why. I am hearing many Republicans say that ? well, we want him to succeed and prominent Republicans. Yes, we wanted ? they have laid down. They have totally ? they're drinking the Kool- Aid, too. They have no guts to stand up for what their beliefs are because they're afraid of criticism, they're afraid of being called racists, they're afraid of not having gotten with the program.

Now success can be defined two ways. I said earlier I don't know about this guy. I really don't. I've got my ? I've got my suspicions, and they're pretty close to convictions, but we're going to have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan, if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln, and if he does cut some taxes.

HANNITY: Yes.

LIMBAUGH: If he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan, but if he's going to do FDR, if he's going to do the new, new deal all over which we will call here the raw deal, why would I want him to succeed?

Look, he's my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. I ? if he is going to implement a far left ? look it. I think it's already decided. $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government. I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation.

If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it's over, Sean. We're never going to roll that back. That's the end of America as we have known it because that's then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided.

Why would I want that to succeed? I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future, it's not what made this country great.

So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail, if his agenda is a far- left collectivism, some people say socialism, as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?

When you put it into context, Limbaugh is saying a lot more than just wishing blanket failure on Obama. He's opposing (or more correctly would oppose) an Obama presidency that sought to drive this country into a European socialist type democracy. And I agree with that.

That said, I haven't seen that from him just yet. I hope I can continue to say that over the next few months as his agenda moves forward.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: kage69

There are plenty of others, but those are the ones I have personally listened to enough to comment on fairly. As a conservative, it bothers me much less to hear a liberal windbag making an ass of himself than it does to hear a so-called conservative railing on like a moron and making us all look like fools.

Exactly! 'Worrying about your own camp' largely went out the window just before the war, and has been in short supply since. The right-wing blowhards have the added habit of invoking religion for their ends, making them even more distasteful.

That's my general theory behind Ann Coulter's jaw. I think some cranky old vet couldn't take it anymore and went and paid her a visit.

Anyway, my only beef with your list would be over Sean Hannity and his supposed avoidance of being caught in hypocritical stances. He may have displayed that before the election to a degree, but I saw him get stomped by an Obama staffer during the Rev. Wright flap making him look like quite the loudmouth hypocrite. You could tell it landed home too as Sean's behavior immediately changed in that interview.

Interesting, but I suppose not too unsurprising. Sean's ego and temper are the enemy of his logical process, and it's easy to see him overreaching at times to support his positions or attack percieved enemies.

 

[taltamir]

rush who? why are you giving idiots free publicity?

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: taltamir
rush who? why are you giving idiots free publicity?

Rush as one lone idiot is no issue. Rush with millions of dedicated acolytes hanging on his every word to parrot his talking points is a problem to me, as it's a great perversion of the conservatism that I suscribe to, the ethics and principled thought behind men such as William F. Buckley and Reagan.

 

[taltamir]

last i checked there are 5 million American members of an organization that wants to legally replace hello with heaveno.. And then there is the flat earth society...

Than again, just because there are many idiots doesn't mean they shouldn't be properly told they are idiots to shame them out of acting so stupid... So I rescind my statement. Go ahead and point out his stupidity, and perversion of conservatism.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What's all the fuss? El Rushbo is just saying out loud what all of the Republicans are thinking! Right?! Am I right?!? Of course I am.

Yes, because we don't want him to succeed at socialist agenda items. Just like you people didn't want Bush to succeed at a Conservative agenda. ...not that Bush had too much of a Conservative agenda after he got there...

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What's all the fuss? El Rushbo is just saying out loud what all of the Republicans are thinking! Right?! Am I right?!? Of course I am.

Yes, because we don't want him to succeed at socialist agenda items. Just like you people didn't want Bush to succeed at a Conservative agenda. ...not that Bush had too much of a Conservative agenda after he got there...

Well, at this point, Bush was more of a socialist than Obama. Discuss. Let me give you a topic: biggest expansion of Medicare. Ever. Go!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What's all the fuss? El Rushbo is just saying out loud what all of the Republicans are thinking! Right?! Am I right?!? Of course I am.

Yes, because we don't want him to succeed at socialist agenda items. Just like you people didn't want Bush to succeed at a Conservative agenda. ...not that Bush had too much of a Conservative agenda after he got there...

Well, at this point, Bush was more of a socialist than Obama. Discuss. Let me give you a topic: biggest expansion of Medicare. Ever. Go!

Already addressed the Bush issue so there is no need to turn yet another thread about BHO into a Bush thread.