Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Arkaign
People who think like this (and similarly, those who didn't want to give Bush a chance before he got the chance to prove his consistent idiocy) should forever lose credibility in terms of any kind of patriotic claims whatsoever towards this country.
http://patriotroom.com/article...-you-want-him-to-fail-
I can understand hoping that moderation or middle ground can be reached with contentious issues that are important to conservatives or others who disagree with his stated goals, but to wish general failure on the President can only equal hoping failure for us as a nation.
Rush, coming from a conservative voice here in Texas :
Go OD and die, kthx. America needs patriots, not venomous, brainless assholes like you.
I'm tired of the generalizations.
When I'm asked, "Do you want Obama to succeed?" my first response is not, "Yes, absolutely." It's "succeed at what?"
Do I want him to succeed at nuking the moon? No.
Do I want him to succeed at being intelligent? Why yes.
It's such a stupidly loaded question.
I agree, as a general question it's not something that can or should be summed up in too short of an answer.
Personally, I hope he succeeds as a President, if the well-being, safety, and financial status of the country at large are the yardsticks of success/failure. Policy-wise, there may be significant disagreements I have with his political perspectives, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt or ever praise if the fundamentals of our country prove to be strong under his administration.
Saying that you hope for the success of the President and by extension, the country, is NOT an explicit blank check to all of his policies and initiatives. Indeed, you can hold strong reservations and still hope for the best.
I didn't vote for Obama, but I generally consider him smart. However, I only hope for his success insofar as he meets my expectations for doing the right thing.
For instance, I don't hope he succeeds at the Freedom of Choice act. I sincerely hope that he changes his mind on that. Otherwise, I sincerely hope he fails at it.
In a general sense, I hope he improves America in any and every aspect, certainly. In that regard I do hope he succeeds.
But politically, there are things that, barring a change of heart or mind, I outrightly hope he fails at. Such as pro-abortion movements, pro-gay marriage movements, or other things.
I really think it's a foolish question to ask. I want him to succeed at doing what I want him to do, and to fail at what I don't. No one else is any different, or any less hard-headed. Any notion to the contrary is sheerly delusional.
I don't see that Limbaugh did anything surprising. He expressed that, when asked the question of "Do I want Obama to succeed?" he assumes that the implied question is, "Do I want Obama to succeed at his stated agenda?" The answer is, "Well, I largely don't agree with the soundness of and reasons for his agenda, so obviously I don't hope he succeeds at that." I don't see how that's any different than how we discern our own opinions regarding a president.
a bit cheap, but funny anyway. I'm sure you know that Christians are on average, as likely to vote (D) as they are (R), aside from what idiots from groups on both sides would have us believe.
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