Libya: U.N. Security Council to support action short of invasion

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CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Oh give me a break, you are so anti European that anything you post is a joke.

Actually, I have posted regarding European atrocities performed against other Europeans. Or do you lop off certain demographics from your definition of European?
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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All I know is you hate Europeans.

You're welcome to believe what you want, but you're the one who has posted literally hundreds of directly-recognizable racist posts, including the minstrel-speech incident where I pointed out what you did and you deleted it in shame.

You also have a lot of subtle racism in your posts, especially in threads about California and how you apparently left b/c it got too "crowded" which is commonly known as "too many minorities."
 

chucky2

Lifer
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The Gaddafi regime is not innocent.

He's just butt hurt because people rightfully complained about his boy using lies to commit us to a costly and detrimental war.

Libya is no different than Iraq was when Bush liberated it and the Looney Left went into a tight panty whining fest because the UN didn't OK the US spending its own money and lives to murder brown people who didn't attack it (the whole whine of the Left).

Now, the UN has decided to go murder brown people in a country that hasn't done one thing to any of the UN countries attacking it, nor any other country.

The Left cheers.

Why would I be butthurt? Apperantly The Left is awefully sensitive in my pointing out their hypocrisy, perhaps it's them that are feeling a little butthurt that their Savior (O'Bummer) and Mentor (UN) just did exactly what their evil hated Bush did????

Poor poor Lefties.... :D:D:D
 

Infohawk

Lifer
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Libya is no different than Iraq was when Bush liberated it and the Looney Left went into a tight panty whining fest because the UN didn't OK the US spending its out money and lives to murder brown people who didn't attack it (the whole whine of the Left).

You don't think there's a difference between a no-fly zone and a ground invasion? I don't get what people are freaking out about. We had a no-fly zone in Serbia and never had a ground war. It's not the end of the world.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Libya is no different than Iraq was when Bush liberated it and the Looney Left went into a tight panty whining fest because the UN didn't OK the US spending its own money and lives to murder brown people who didn't attack it (the whole whine of the Left).

Now, the UN has decided to go murder brown people in a country that hasn't done one thing to any of the UN countries attacking it, nor any other country.

The Left cheers.

Why would I be butthurt? Apperantly The Left is awefully sensitive in my pointing out their hypocrisy, perhaps it's them that are feeling a little butthurt that their Savior (O'Bummer) and Mentor (UN) just did exactly what their evil hated Bush did????

Poor poor Lefties.... :D:D:D
See how Mental you are? You are so spiteful that you can't even dwell in reality. You really are a pathetic individual.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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I like other believe what we see and what we see is a twisted and demented little wretch that hates Europeans.

A lot of that requires a certain interpretation, and that interpretation means that you adopt the common doctrines of white supremacy groups. It means that you believe that the only European is a white European and that you believe some white Europeans are not white.

However, you explicit statements don't need any interpretation. You have hundreds of posts with racist caricatures and still have the minstrel-speech incident on you.

In some way I find an excuse for you in your age though. You are from an era where lynching a minority was an appropriate action. Part of the social change in this country has always been to wait for the people who cling to outdated thoughts to die off.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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Libya is no different than Iraq was when Bush liberated it and the Looney Left went into a tight panty whining fest because the UN didn't OK the US spending its own money and lives to murder brown people who didn't attack it (the whole whine of the Left).

Now, the UN has decided to go murder brown people in a country that hasn't done one thing to any of the UN countries attacking it, nor any other country.

The Left cheers.

Why would I be butthurt? Apperantly The Left is awefully sensitive in my pointing out their hypocrisy, perhaps it's them that are feeling a little butthurt that their Savior (O'Bummer) and Mentor (UN) just did exactly what their evil hated Bush did????

Poor poor Lefties.... :D:D:D

You're crazy, even FOX news says so. They recognize hug difference between invasion and occupation vs bomb Kaffai out, 60 mil vs 6 mil, strongest military in ME vs weekend warriors, etc

You're just sad because Bushy got involved in a brier patch and could not get out and 0 is being smarter about it and it might work giving him props. Just admit it, it's clearly transparent. And everyone knows if McCain were leading charge you'd be a lap dog.
 

Atheus

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Does Great Britain still have an air force or navy? How many Harrier jump jets are still in operation?

A few are still around. Mostly we operate the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter and the Tornado fighter-bomber. We have a couple of aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, etc etc. We've cut back a lot in the last few years, and our new generation of carriers may not be built, but we're not too bad as it goes. I think we are still considered the world's second or third most powerfult military.

Hopefully they'll be more useful than the British Special Forces who were defeated by rebel civilians.

They were an escort for a diplomatic team and allowed themselves to be captured in order to communicate with the revolutionaries. If they wanted to go in there and kill everyone they would've done that.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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They were an escort for a diplomatic team and allowed themselves to be captured in order to communicate with the revolutionaries. If they wanted to go in there and kill everyone they would've done that.

Is that what the British officials are saying? Seems more like a face-saving measure, especially given that the operation has been described as "ill conceived, poorly planned and embarrassingly executed."
 

werepossum

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Obama needs to take this to Congress for authorization, and it should have happened a week ago, but I like the way this is developing. France, as the NATO country most potentially affected, is taking the lead and will be performing the bulk of the ground attack missions, with ancillary support from the UK, Canada, and the lesser NATO powers. The USA, because we are far more powerful especially in taking out hardened sites and air defenses and also more heavily committed elsewhere, will be doing those tasks, which are at least safer. When ground forces are committed, they will probably be mainly French, with British special forces support. Hopefully the French and the Arab League will take out Qadaffi and a new regime that's at least more friendly to the West in general will take over.

My major concern is that we set up sufficient assets for downed pilot retrieval. To have much of a chance of retrieving a downed pilot, you need to have standing by strike aircraft to keep enemy forces at bay, long range helicopters with special forces to go on the ground, probably attack helicopters to protect the troop carriers down low. In a country the size of Libya, at least a couple teams will be needed. I hope we follow through with that kind of support (and that we have it to spare) because Libya is not somewhere to lose captured aircrew.
 

speg

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Libya is no different than Iraq was when Bush liberated it and the Looney Left went into a tight panty whining fest because the UN didn't OK the US spending its own money and lives to murder brown people who didn't attack it (the whole whine of the Left).

Where have you been the last two months? I don't remember the Iraq military surrounding their own cities. If I recall correctly the major motive was the threat of WMD...
 

Red Dawn

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A lot of that requires a certain interpretation, and that interpretation means that you adopt the common doctrines of white supremacy groups. It means that you believe that the only European is a white European and that you believe some white Europeans are not white.

However, you explicit statements don't need any interpretation. You have hundreds of posts with racist caricatures and still have the minstrel-speech incident on you.

In some way I find an excuse for you in your age though. You are from an era where lynching a minority was an appropriate action. Part of the social change in this country has always been to wait for the people who cling to outdated thoughts to die off.
So not only are you a blatant and unapologetic racist you are also an Ageist. What a sad and pathetic individual you turned out to be, I'm sure your parents and family are gravely disappointed in you, if not then they should be if they even cared one iota about you which they may not seeing how you are. Your views are so twisted that you just may be unlovable, even for a mother.
 

Zebo

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Obama needs to take this to Congress for authorization, and it should have happened a week ago, but I like the way this is developing. France, as the NATO country most potentially affected, is taking the lead and will be performing the bulk of the ground attack missions, with ancillary support from the UK, Canada, and the lesser NATO powers. The USA, because we are far more powerful especially in taking out hardened sites and air defenses and also more heavily committed elsewhere, will be doing those tasks, which are at least safer. When ground forces are committed, they will probably be mainly French, with British special forces support. Hopefully the French and the Arab League will take out Qadaffi and a new regime that's at least more friendly to the West in general will take over.

My major concern is that we set up sufficient assets for downed pilot retrieval. To have much of a chance of retrieving a downed pilot, you need to have standing by strike aircraft to keep enemy forces at bay, long range helicopters with special forces to go on the ground, probably attack helicopters to protect the troop carriers down low. In a country the size of Libya, at least a couple teams will be needed. I hope we follow through with that kind of support (and that we have it to spare) because Libya is not somewhere to lose captured aircrew.

I think we will do most of the leg work. Two CBGs can take out all of Europe and they are in theater.
 

Dominato3r

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Obama needs to take this to Congress for authorization, and it should have happened a week ago, but I like the way this is developing. France, as the NATO country most potentially affected, is taking the lead and will be performing the bulk of the ground attack missions, with ancillary support from the UK, Canada, and the lesser NATO powers. The USA, because we are far more powerful especially in taking out hardened sites and air defenses and also more heavily committed elsewhere, will be doing those tasks, which are at least safer. When ground forces are committed, they will probably be mainly French, with British special forces support. Hopefully the French and the Arab League will take out Qadaffi and a new regime that's at least more friendly to the West in general will take over.

My major concern is that we set up sufficient assets for downed pilot retrieval. To have much of a chance of retrieving a downed pilot, you need to have standing by strike aircraft to keep enemy forces at bay, long range helicopters with special forces to go on the ground, probably attack helicopters to protect the troop carriers down low. In a country the size of Libya, at least a couple teams will be needed. I hope we follow through with that kind of support (and that we have it to spare) because Libya is not somewhere to lose captured aircrew.

Apparently there are special forces on the ground, they are just keeping it on the down-low
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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So not only are you a blatant and unapologetic racist you are also an Ageist. What a sad and pathetic individual you turned out to be, I'm sure your parents and family are gravely disappointed in you, if not then they should be if they even cared one iota about you which they may not seeing how you are. Your views are so twisted that you just may be unlovable, even for a mother.

Sorry, but I don't see "blatant and unapologetic" racist posts from me. Criticizing European governments is not racism, just like how criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-semitism.

However, the forums are littered with your recitation of what is commonly referred to as one of the most racist lines in Hollywood history. You also have the incident where you directly attacked me with minstrel-like speech.

Also, I'm not discriminating against you by referring to your age. I'm saying that's how I account for some of your behavior. But, I'm ok with you saying that I'm an "ageist" as long as you acknowledge your history of racism on this forum and your disgusting racist minstrel-like speech attack at me (you know, the one you deleted in absolute shame).
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Well it's kind of hard to see anything when your view is primarily that of your lower intestinal tract.

I'm just glad that your insults don't include minstrel speech type incidents anymore. I noticed that ever since I called you out on it you've refrained from that type of behavior. I never imagined I could be so influential in your life.