Libya: U.N. Security Council to support action short of invasion

[chucky2]

And better than Gaddafi killing, mangling, and disfiguring people too.

A fan of the Colonel I see.

Buwhahahaha!!! You mean, just like Saddam, amirite??? Hahaha oh man, this is too F'ing rich!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

"Freedom is on the march!"

And the UN is stamping it out!!! Damn them!!! Bombing innocent and peace loving Libya, who never attacked any of these UN countries!!!

Warmongers!! Blood for Oil!!! Peace and Love!!!

 

[RabidMongoose]

This is simply an attempt by the Europeans to colonize another state. The US needs to be involved and make sure that the French, British, and whoever else do not take all of Libya's oil or commit any mass genocide against the population. We should not forget the European tendency to colonize and genocide.

There are and have been other serious issues in Africa, some perhaps even more serious than what is going on in Libya. How come the Europeans were not getting involved to such a degree in these other circumstances? It's simple. Oil and colonialism.

They think that they can trick the US and then pillage Libya once they defeat the Libyan army, but the US should position a couple of carrier attack groups around the UK and France (maybe in the Channel) to make sure that they behave properly.

 

[freegeeks]

This is simply an attempt by the Europeans to colonize another state. The US needs to be involved and make sure that the French, British, and whoever else do not take all of Libya's oil or commit any mass genocide against the population. We should not forget the European tendency to colonize and genocide.

There are and have been other serious issues in Africa, some perhaps even more serious than what is going on in Libya. How come the Europeans were not getting involved to such a degree in these other circumstances? It's simple. Oil and colonialism.

They think that they can trick the US and then pillage Libya once they defeat the Libyan army, but the US should position a couple of carrier attack groups around the UK and France (maybe in the Channel) to make sure that they behave properly.

bwahahahaha

you and Canosh*t are really the f*cked up couple

 

[RabidMongoose]

bwahahahaha

you and Canosh*t are really the f*cked up couple

Yeah, sure, the people who are against typical European colonialism and genocide are "f*cked up" but the European who wants to kill a bunch of people to secure a stable oil supply isn't "f*cked up."

 

[CanOWorms]

This is simply an attempt by the Europeans to colonize another state. The US needs to be involved and make sure that the French, British, and whoever else do not take all of Libya's oil or commit any mass genocide against the population. We should not forget the European tendency to colonize and genocide.

There are and have been other serious issues in Africa, some perhaps even more serious than what is going on in Libya. How come the Europeans were not getting involved to such a degree in these other circumstances? It's simple. Oil and colonialism.

They think that they can trick the US and then pillage Libya once they defeat the Libyan army, but the US should position a couple of carrier attack groups around the UK and France (maybe in the Channel) to make sure that they behave properly.

Good points. People tend to forget that it wasn't that long ago when France installed a cannibalistic dictator in Africa. I don't think that Obama will hesitate to shoot down a European fighter jet if they go out of control.

Other than migrants and oil, a lot of the French drive is ego. Their Foreign Minister was actually one of the first casualties of the Arab revolt. She offered French anti-civilian military supplies and training to Tunisia to crush the protests, found to be deeply involved in corruption activities within Tunisia, etc. The new FM has a huge job in repairing France's international image. Sarkozy is seizing the Libyan opportunity to reorient France's Africa policy.

 

[freegeeks]

Good points. People tend to forget that it wasn't that long ago when France installed a cannibalistic dictator in Africa. I don't think that Obama will hesitate to shoot down a European fighter jet if they go out of control.

Other than migrants and oil, a lot of the French drive is ego. Their Foreign Minister was actually one of the first casualties of the Arab revolt. She offered French anti-civilian military supplies and training to Tunisia to crush the protests, found to be deeply involved in corruption activities within Tunisia, etc. The new FM has a huge job in repairing France's international image. Sarkozy is seizing the Libyan opportunity to reorient France's Africa policy.

LOL it's funny that you and Rabids*t are defending a dictator who committed terrorism (Lockerbie)

 

[RabidMongoose]

LOL it's funny that you and Rabids*t are defending a dictator who committed terrorism (Lockerbie)

I don't think that anyone is defending a dictator, but the European motivation in these actions. It's similar to those who questioned the US in Iraq. Opponents of the action weren't defending Saddam Hussein, but I guess maybe you were defending him? He does have a lot in common with Europeans considering his genocidal tendencies.

Anyways, it's clear what the European motivation here really is. It's oil, migrants, and colonialism. Otherwise, how come these Europeans just make problems instead of fixing current problems that are a result of previous European genocide and colonialism? How come Europeans don't so strongly address other concerns in Africa and around the world that are a result of European racism, genocide, and colonialism? They don't because they're only in this for oil, prevention of migration, and they could possibly develop some sort of buffer slave state.

 

[CanOWorms]

LOL it's funny that you and Rabids*t are defending a dictator who committed terrorism (Lockerbie)

I'm not defending Gaddafi.

But I do find it odd that the same European powers who created the situation that allowed Gaddafi to rise, supported him, trained his military forces in anti-civilian procedures for anti-migrant activities that are now being used against Libyans, armed him, etc. are keen on removing him. Recently the British let go a Lockerbie terrorist to gain favor with Gaddafi, and now they're bombing him? A rational person would question their real plan.

The US should closely watch and be prepared to strike at any European actions that are not within the proper scope of the UN resolution. History shows that European military actions need some moderation. Hopefully the US and the Arab states involved will contribute to that.

 

[JSt0rm]

Why does anandtech get the crazy fucking right wing wackos from all over the internet?

On another message board i go to they had a politics subforums and it was the same dredge. The owner of the board said he was ashamed that his members acted like that and shut down the politics section. lol.

 

[freegeeks]

strange, I saw earlier today pictures of people in Benghazi waving French flags and holding up "merci sarkozy" signs, I guess they don't see it as an act of European colonialism

both of you should get over the whole inferiority complex you seem to suffer

 

[CanOWorms]

strange, I saw earlier today pictures of people in Benghazi waving French flags and holding up "merci sarkozy" signs, I guess they don't see it as an act of European colonialism

both of you should get over the whole inferiority complex you seem to suffer

There are photos and videos of Iraqis celebrating when the US and its coalition invaded. The initial days are just the beginning.

Will they do the same when France imposes a cannibalistic dictator onto them? When the dictator feasts upon the blood of Libyan schoolchildren, do you think that they will say the same?

The French need to be moderated in this conflict.

Why is France not doing the same in the Ivory Coast?

 

[JSt0rm]

Will they do the same when France imposes a cannibalistic dictator onto them? When the dictator feasts upon the blood of Libyan schoolchildren, do you think that they will say the same?

Would you shut the fuck up already. Or at the very least have a decent straw man handy.

 

[Doppel]

I doubt we're going to be in the first wave.

So they hop from airport to airport due to lack of Canadian carrier, where are their munitions coming from?

but the US should position a couple of carrier attack groups around the UK and France (maybe in the Channel) to make sure that they behave properly.

Not only should they do that but make sure they're upwind of London and Paris and pre-empt with multiple nuclear strikes. This is the most prudent way to ensure that these countries do not colonize and steal the oils!!!

Anyway, reports out in the last few min US has launched Tomahawks against Libyan air defense.

 

[CanOWorms]

Would you shut the fuck up already. Or at the very least have a decent straw man handy.

Typical Eurosupremacist shit. Why are you so afraid of history?

What's wrong with moderating the European presence? If other parties can get them to behave, is that so bad? That would be in the best interests of the world and the Libyan people.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Typical Eurosupremacist shit. Why are you so afraid of history?

What's wrong with moderating the European presence? If other parties can get them to behave, is that so bad? That would be in the best interests of the world and the Libyan people.

It isn't about what is best for the Libyan people. It's about what is best for Europe's agenda.

 

[irishScott]

I doubt we're going to be in the first wave.

Probably not, in all likelihood we'll be spending the majority of our resources enforcing the no-fly zone, seeing as how we're one of the few nations with the ability to even do so effectively. Gates said it would take two aircraft carriers worth of fighters to enforce. The Canadians are sending what? 6 fighters? Lol. I mean it's appreciated, but lol. Drop in the bucket much? I doubt the French and British combined are contributing more than half the total air power, so that leaves us holding the majority share.

 

[freegeeks]

first US Tomahawk missiles fired

 

[Infohawk]

Real life owns COW once again...

 

[JSt0rm]

Typical Eurosupremacist shit. Why are you so afraid of history?

What's wrong with moderating the European presence? If other parties can get them to behave, is that so bad? That would be in the best interests of the world and the Libyan people.

shut up.

 

[CanOWorms]

It isn't about what is best for the Libyan people. It's about what is best for Europe's agenda.

Hopefully Europe's agenda can be wiped out by the presence of the US and the Arab countries. The operation obviously needs Europe's resources as they are just across the sea, but it does not need their motivations.

 

[RabidMongoose]

So they hop from airport to airport due to lack of Canadian carrier, where are their munitions coming from?Not only should they do that but make sure they're upwind of London and Paris and pre-empt with multiple nuclear strikes. This is the most prudent way to ensure that these countries do not colonize and steal the oils!!!

Anyway, reports out in the last few min US has launched Tomahawks against Libyan air defense.

The US doesn't need to do a preemptive attack, it just needs to keep the Europeans in check here. As has been said, there's nothing wrong with keeping European powers in check and to make sure that they behave properly.

This is all about the European agenda for oil, migrants, etc. This isn't for purely altruistic reasons. Otherwise, why aren't the Europeans fixing all of the problems that they've caused all over the world, many of which have much more loss of human life? Moreover, Europeans have the worst track record in the entire known universe as far as colonialism, genocide, and subjugation of native populations go. Keep a couple of carrier attack groups in the Channel as a sign of force that the US will keep the UK and France in line during this operation. There's really no downside to this unless you're a fan of European genocide and colonialism.

 

[CanOWorms]

Real life owns COW once again...

Not really. I never claimed that the people won't be grateful, especially in these first days. I'm claiming that they won't be grateful if we allow the European countries to fulfill their entire agenda.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Probably not, in all likelihood we'll be spending the majority of our resources enforcing the no-fly zone, seeing as how we're one of the few nations with the ability to even do so effectively. Gates said it would take two aircraft carriers worth of fighters to enforce. The Canadians are sending what? 6 fighters? Lol. I mean it's appreciated, but lol. Drop in the bucket much? I doubt the French and British combined are contributing more than half the total air power, so that leaves us holding the majority share.

6 fighters is pretty insulting. It's not enough to contribute to the European agenda for oil and migrants. What is the purpose of these 6 fighters? They'll probably just get in the way. Canada may be an acceptable nation here that has no interest in Libyan oil or migrants or even to colonize Libya like the Europeans probably are desiring. However, they are providing a pathetic 6 fighter jets? Yet another example of Canadian uselessness and irrelevance in the world.

 

[CanOWorms]

shut up.

No, I will oppose any radical actions by European governments. That includes installing a new dictator, slaughtering civilians, etc. If they behave themselves then there will be no problems.

 

[JSt0rm]

Not really. I never claimed that the people won't be grateful, especially in these first days. I'm claiming that they won't be grateful if we allow the European countries to fulfill their entire agenda.

I'm guessing you put on the tinfoil and received signals from aliens as to the exact agenda of the Europeans?