Libertarianism is applied autism

[nextJin]

Ron Paul is a racist. That is well known. You don't write racist newsletters unless you're a racist. And his following is the most monolithic political group in the entire country. It's convenient that you tried to gloss this over. Ron Paul's monolithic political group conveniently fits into his racist views. How convenient.

I'm sure that a few racists did vote for Obama. But people who voted for Obama were very diverse in general, as opposed to racist Ron Paul's following which is more monolithic than even the GOP.




Feel free to show that you don't have autism. You're not off to a strong start.

How many times does the whole RP is a racist myth need to get owned? He literally provided free healthcare to minorities who couldn't afford healthcare who would not get seen by other doctors (Mind you this was before he had any intention of running for public office). He has also directly attacked the justice system for having laws that effect minorities and not whites. He even debated someone on this very subject in front of a crowd of minorities (one of the African American action groups headed the debate). He has said time and time again dating as far back as the late 80's that he disavows them, but that doesn't stop CNN from asking the same question a million times when he answered it already just to push the race card. He had more minorities in his movement than all the other Republican prospects combined.

Do I really need to go through the trouble to post images and links?

If that's how you seriously want to role then Obama is a terrorist by association.

Attack policy positions all you want, but saying he is racist just shows ignorance on something you know nothing about. You too seem to get all of your talking points from MSNBC and CNN instead of actual fact checking.

 

[nextJin]

How can a rational sane person think markets (a wholly human made construct) is immune to having to police itself like there is a big daddy capitalist God is so silly you would THINK anyone over the age if 5 would know better. But right wing libertarians are literally children emotionally. Thus the self centered faith based worldview.

I dunno why does everyone else believe that human action has an ability to be measured?

 

[Steeplerot]

How many times does the whole RP is a racist myth need to get owned? He literally provided free healthcare to minorities who couldn't afford healthcare who would not get seen by other doctors. He also has directly attacked the justice system for having laws that effect minorities and not whites. He even debated someone on this very subject in front of a crowd of minorities (one of the African American action groups headed the debate). He has said time and time again dating as far back as the late 80's that he disavows them, but that doesn't stop CNN from asking the same question a million times when he answered it already just to push the race card. He had more minorities in his movement than all the other Republican prospects combined.

Do I really need to go through the trouble to post images and links?

If that's how you seriously want to role then Obama is a terrorist by association.

It was never shown this newsletter was not his. He did lie his ass off though, but only the suckers who were giving him money like anew-school fundie televangalist savior were dumb enough to keep believing him.

 

[nextJin]

It was never shown this newsletter was not his. He did lie his ass off though, but only the suckers who were giving him money like anew-school fundie televangalist savior were dumb enough to keep believing him.

Where were the lies? Other than he just didn't write them?

And you do realize he doesn't pocket campaign donations right? That 6 million dollar money bomb didn't just magically turn into gold in his swiss accounts.

 

[nextJin]

Stuff.

And I find it comical how you champion the fight against Paul who is basically your sworm enemy. Liberty and Communism just don't jive I understand that. He goes against everything you believe and you will fight tooth and nail to ensure he fails.

The USSR is a giant of industry and war power, the greatest society known to man, the.... wait.....

nevermind I was thinking Communism was a good thing for a second there, phew.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Another person more interesting in spewing his support for his racist leader than actual discussion. Typical of that old stupid man's followers.

He's not my "leader" and you've completely distorted what little of my posts you apparently understood.

Your position boils down to "Ron Paul is a racist so libertarianism is racist." Which is utterly moronic.

God this place is a hopeless sewer.

 

[Steeplerot]

I dunno why does everyone else believe that human action has an ability to be measured?

Because money is a tool of humanity. Not our diety. Nor can capitalism even handle its own contridictions, much less be a gauge of the actual human condition. 1000s of years of us exploiting one another throught the history of our race shows this.

 

[Incorruptible]

He's not my "leader" and you've completely distorted what little of my posts you apparently understood.

Your position boils down to "Ron Paul is a racist so libertarianism is racist." Which is utterly moronic.

God this place is a hopeless sewer.

As long as him and his ilk are allowed to post here then it will remain that way.

 

[nextJin]

Because money is a tool of humanity. Not our diety. Nor can capitalism even handle its own contridictions, much less be a gauge of the actual human condition. 1000s of years of us exploiting one another throught the history of our race shows this.

Pretty sure you just proved my point.

 

[Steeplerot]

And I find it comical how you champion the fight against Paul who is basically your sworm enemy. Liberty and Communism just don't jive I understand that. He goes against everything you believe and you will fight tooth and nail to ensure he fails.

The USSR is a giant of industry and war power, the greatest society known to man, the.... wait.....

nevermind I was thinking Communism was a good thing for a second there, phew.

There is no liberty in right wing cult of bircherism. What a joke.

 

[Steeplerot]

Pretty sure you just proved my point.

Well, this should be very interesting. Lets hear all about how your idea of liberty includes slobbing the knob of nazis like david Duke and his newsletter apologist buddy Ron Paul. *Pulls up chair.*

 

[nextJin]

There is no liberty in right wing cult of bircherism. What a joke.

Quote from the JBS wiki:

The John Birch Society is an American political advocacy group that supports anti-communism, limited government, a constitutional republic and personal freedom. It has been described as radical right-wing.

The organization identifies with Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes practices it terms collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. It opposes socialism and fascism as well, which it asserts is infiltrating US governmental administration. In a 1983 edition of Crossfire, Congressman Larry McDonald (D-Georgia), then its newly appointed president, characterized the society as belonging to the Old Right rather than the New Right.

The society repeatedly opposed overseas war-making, although it is strongly supportive of the American military. It has issued calls to "Bring Our Troops Home" in every conflict since its founding, including Vietnam.

Not worth the effort to make comparisons between their "Liberty" vs "Yours" it's pretty damning with a simple google search alone.

 

[nextJin]

Well, this should be very interesting. Lets hear all about how your idea of liberty includes slobbing the knob of nazis like david Duke and his newsletter apologist buddy Ron Paul. *Pulls up chair.*

Wow a supporter who is a racist prick supports Paul? Again by that definition Obama is a terrorist.

Come up with something, ANYTHING better. I have already destroyed the lame ass attempts to label Paul a racist. Guilt by association is the only thing you people literally go on.

Pretty sad.

EDIT: And apparently you have no idea what I meant by Human Action

 

[RabidMongoose]

How many times does the whole RP is a racist myth need to get owned? He literally provided free healthcare to minorities who couldn't afford healthcare who would not get seen by other doctors (Mind you this was before he had any intention of running for public office). He has also directly attacked the justice system for having laws that effect minorities and not whites. He even debated someone on this very subject in front of a crowd of minorities (one of the African American action groups headed the debate). He has said time and time again dating as far back as the late 80's that he disavows them, but that doesn't stop CNN from asking the same question a million times when he answered it already just to push the race card. He had more minorities in his movement than all the other Republican prospects combined.

Do I really need to go through the trouble to post images and links?

If that's how you seriously want to role then Obama is a terrorist by association.

Attack policy positions all you want, but saying he is racist just shows ignorance on something you know nothing about. You too seem to get all of your talking points from MSNBC and CNN instead of actual fact checking.

Ron Paul is a racist. If you've written a racist newsletter for years then you are a racist. Period.

Ron Paul is racist. It's fact. That he tried to hide his racism while on presidential runs is meaningless because we know the truth.

 

[RabidMongoose]

He's not my "leader" and you've completely distorted what little of my posts you apparently understood.

Your position boils down to "Ron Paul is a racist so libertarianism is racist." Which is utterly moronic.

God this place is a hopeless sewer.

No, my position is that the Libertarian overlord is a racist and Libertarianism followers are more monolithic than the GOP, which is quite an achievement. And that libertarian morons don't live in reality, which you conveniently showed us all with your post about how a racist fucker like Ron Paul who wrote a racist newsletter for years may not be a racist.

You are delusional and it is hopeless to have any discussion with you.

 

[nextJin]

Ron Paul is a racist. If you've written a racist newsletter for years then you are a racist. Period.

Ron Paul is racist. It's fact. That he tried to hide his racism while on presidential runs is meaningless because we know the truth.

wow.

"His" newsletter was called everything from Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, the Ron Paul Political Report, the Ron Paul Survival Report, etc etc. There were hundreds of thousands of eventual published pages.

If anything, he tied his name to it and never policed it. The articles that are obviously his were on gold and economics, and from my research (which is more than yours) he had one specific citation where he claimed most blacks in DC is semi criminal or criminal. He cited a Washington area research paper on criminal background and ethicity.

Poor choice of words obviously.

So, you claim racisim by association only. With the exception of the newsletters of which you can not specifically state which articles were published by him (I can) and obvious links to Lew Rockwell. Over the course of the publications, upto 18 ghost writers have been cited by various people who were part of the staff.

As far as Paul's involvement, it amounted to being foolish enough to have his name tied to those publications with his company at the time.

So lets get down to it.

You have zero evidence other than the newsletters. You have no quotes, no policies, no pictures, not even second hand accounts from people in his district who might have over heard him. You have no debate stumbles, no interview gaffs, nothing. In 3 decades of public service you don't have a goddamn thing. Nothing.

I have everything on my side, including accounts from a shit load of minority women who Paul gave free services too after they were turned away by other white doctors. Debates all the way back to his Libertarian run in '88 talking about minority suppression in the justice system, quoting MLK in a '84 video, etc

So please, spare me your dumb ass drivel.

 

[RabidMongoose]

wow.

"His" newsletter was called everything from Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, the Ron Paul Political Report, the Ron Paul Survival Report, etc etc. There were hundreds of thousands of eventual published pages.

If anything, he tied his name to it and never policed it.

Yeah, Ron Paul never read, wrote (and there obscure physician references in part of the racist newsletters that were within RP's field), or policed any newsletter that was named after him and that he personally made thousands of dollars off of. When confronted with them, he demanded that we read them in context. He didn't deny his racism, but instead was so incredibly racist that he thought that if we read his entire racist newsletter, then it would be OK. But it was still incredibly racist.

Yeah. So we have a newsletter written under Ron Paul's name, with obscure references within RPs professional expertise, was written over many years, he made thousands of dollars off of it, and he subsequently defended the racist newsletters. But apparently Ron Paul may not be a racist if we forget reality.

Also don't forget about that racist fucker's more recent comment about how some Americans don't look American to him.

Let me know when you finally decide to acknowledge reality.

 

[nextJin]

Yeah, Ron Paul never read, wrote (and there obscure physician references in part of the racist newsletters that were within RP's field), or policed any newsletter that was named after him and that he personally made thousands of dollars off of.

Yeah.

Let me know when you finally decide to acknowledge reality.

So you can't refute shit other than he probably read them and didn't do anything about it? There were obscure references to his hometown and saying "I" too, wtf do you think a ghost writer is?

 

[RabidMongoose]

So you can't refute shit other than he probably read them and didn't do anything about it? There were obscure references to his hometown and saying "I" too, wtf do you think a ghost writer is?

You can't refute that he was involved with newsletters that went out under his name. The burden is on you to prove that Ron Paul had nothing to do with his own racist newsletter. Where is your proof?

Again, he also later defended the newsletters when word about them came out. Get that through your brainwashed head. Ron Paul defended his racist newsletter after word got out about his racist newsletter.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

No, my position is that the Libertarian overlord is a racist and Libertarianism followers are more monolithic than the GOP, which is quite an achievement. And that libertarian morons don't live in reality, which you conveniently showed us all with your post about how a racist fucker like Ron Paul who wrote a racist newsletter for years may not be a racist.

You are delusional and it is hopeless to have any discussion with you.

Ron Paul wrote some racist newsletters 25 years ago, therefore the millions of people who consider themselves libertarians are all racist.

You're truly an intellectual giant.

 

[nextJin]

You can't refute that he was involved with newsletters that went out under his name. The burden is on you to prove that Ron Paul had nothing to do with his own racist newsletter. Where is your proof?

Again, he also later defended the newsletters when word about them came out. Get that through your brainwashed head. Ron Paul defended his racist newsletter after word got out about his racist newsletter.

He was involved with the newsletters idiot, no one is saying he was not involved. His involvement was getting paid for his gold/economic articles, his name sake, and company doing the publishing.

Apparently you don't understand how small/local newsletters were done way back then.

It's not on me to prove he is not a racist, I provided a ton of reasonable doubt to any sane person critically looking at the subject. No investigations done by any organization has proved he did write them, the only thing you can state is he was incredibly naive enough to not read them. It's like saying someone who authors an article in the NY Times should read the entire paper.

You on the other hand need to provide anything showing Paul as a die hard KKK racist white grand wizzard not related to ancient ghost written newsletters published in his name with no verified authorship.

I'll take anything, even a photoshopped image if you want. I'll even roll with that.

 

[nextJin]

It's the same thing as trying to have Glenn Beck supporters prove he didn't rape a 13 year old girl.

Jesus your stupid.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

It's the same thing as trying to have Glenn Beck supporters prove he didn't rape a 13 year old girl.

Jesus your stupid.

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(Just trying to save him some time. )

 

[RabidMongoose]

Ron Paul wrote some racist newsletters 25 years ago, therefore the millions of people who consider themselves libertarians are all racist.

You're truly an intellectual giant.

Ron Paul is a racist. I don't think that all libertarians are racist. However, the modern American libertarianism movement is controlled by racists and racist ideology.

Wow, you are really dumb.

 

[RabidMongoose]

He was involved with the newsletters idiot, no one is saying he was not involved. His involvement was getting paid for his gold/economic articles, his name sake, and company doing the publishing.

And don't forget that he defended his racist newsletters.

The facts are that Ron Paul had a newsletter come out under his name for years. The newsletter was incredibly racist and pure filth. Ron Paul made tons of money off of them. Ron Paul later defended them and subsequently made another racist statement.

Ron Paul is a racist.