Libertarianism is applied autism

[RabidMongoose]

It's the same thing as trying to have Glenn Beck supporters prove he didn't rape a 13 year old girl.

Jesus your stupid.

We do know that Ron Paul had a racist newsletter come out under his name for years and he defended that newsletter and later made another racist statement.

It's the Ron Paulbots that are making things up by saying that Ron Paul did almost nothing for a racist newsletter that he made tons of money off of for years, went out under his name, and he later defended. Where is your evidence of this? Please use facts, not your make believe Paulbot shit.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Ron Paul racist Ron Paul racist Ron Paul racist racist Ron Paul racist racist Ron Paul racist racist racist Ron Paul Ron Paul racist racist Ron Paul racist Ron Paul racist Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul racist racist racist Ron Paul racist Ron Paul racist Ron Paul Ron Paul racist Ron Paul Ron Paul racist Ron Paul racist racist.

(Just trying to save him some time. )

Don't forget that Ron Paul is a racist old fucker that is probably shitting in adult diapers right now.

But I bet that Paulbots are also going to deny Paul's own age. They'll claim that he's actually 19 years old.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Ron Paul is a racist. I don't think that all libertarians are racist. However, the modern American libertarianism movement is controlled by racists and racist ideology.

Wow, you are really dumb.

You claim that the libertarian movement is "controlled by racists" because of one guy, who has never even actually run for office as a libertarian, over some newsletters he wrote a quarter-century ago.

And because I don't accept this "logic", I'm dumb. Truly fascinating.

In your next response, please let me know if you think Ron Paul is racist or not? I'd love to know your opinion on that.

(At least your forum name is well-chosen..)

 

[nextJin]

You claim that the libertarian movement is "controlled by racists" because of one guy, who has never even actually run for office as a libertarian, over some newsletters he wrote a quarter-century ago.

And because I don't accept this "logic", I'm dumb. Truly fascinating.

In your next response, please let me know if you think Ron Paul is racist or not? I'd love to know your opinion on that.

(At least your forum name is well-chosen..)

Even though I am done with Rabid he did run as a Libertarian in '88.

Rabid just keeps spouting the same talking points and can't point to anything other than ancient newsletters that can't be verified by even the likes of salon.com and CNN.

It's hilarious really, why would a rasict go infront of hundreds of minorites and debate another minority during a debate on our judicial system and bring up racial inequality years ago? I mean certainly a racist wouldn't provide free healthcare to them either, shit at least charge them people and give them the wrong meds or something shesh.

 

[RabidMongoose]

You claim that the libertarian movement is "controlled by racists" because of one guy, who has never even actually run for office as a libertarian, over some newsletters he wrote a quarter-century ago.

And because I don't accept this "logic", I'm dumb. Truly fascinating.

In your next response, please let me know if you think Ron Paul is racist or not? I'd love to know your opinion on that.

(At least your forum name is well-chosen..)

You're dumb because you have low intelligence. Not because you don't realize that the modern American movement is controlled by racists and racist ideology.

And lots of powerful people have controlled political movement in the country without being in political office.

I think that you've been very well brainwashed by Paul.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Even though I am done with Rabid he did run as a Libertarian in '88.

Rabid just keeps spouting the same talking points and can't point to anything other than ancient newsletters that can't be verified by even the likes of salon.com and CNN.

Ron Paul himself defended his own racist newsletters. That is fact.

There are just so many racist things with Ron Paul that it's just ridiculous that people claim that he didn't even write his own racist newsletter that he defended in the media.

 

[nextJin]

Ron Paul himself defended his own racist newsletters. That is fact.

There are just so many racist things with Ron Paul that it's just ridiculous that people claim that he didn't even write his own racist newsletter that he defended in the media.

He initiatially defended a publication with his name on it? You don't say!

Please tell me more on how Paul is a racist, I'm intriqued.

(btw I'm laughing at you)

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Even though I am done with Rabid he did run as a Libertarian in '88.

Thanks for the correction. He certainly hasn't been part of the LP for many years as far as I know. In 2012 he was repeatedly asked if he would run as a libertarian and he obviously didn't.

Rabid just keeps spouting the same talking points and can't point to anything other than ancient newsletters that can't be verified by even the likes of salon.com and CNN.

I actually think Paul is responsible for those newsletters, whether he wrote them or not, and that his response to them has been weaselly and inappropriate. He deserves the criticism he gets on that issue (at least, when it's rational -- not the frothing at the mouth on display in this thread).

But even if he was a racist in the 1980s, that doesn't mean he is now. (Robert Byrd obviously comes to mind.) And even if he is one now, trying to impugne millions of libertarians over this is utterly irrational.

As for RabidMongoose, something is seriously wrong there.

 

[nextJin]

Thanks for the correction. He certainly hasn't been part of the LP for many years as far as I know. In 2012 he was repeatedly asked if he would run as a libertarian and he obviously didn't.



I actually think Paul is responsible for those newsletters, whether he wrote them or not, and that his response to them has been weaselly and inappropriate. He deserves the criticism he gets on that issue (at least, when it's rational -- not the frothing at the mouth on display in this thread).

But even if he was a racist in the 1980s, that doesn't mean he is now. (Robert Byrd obviously comes to mind.) And even if he is one now, trying to impugne millions of libertarians over this is utterly irrational.

As for RabidMongoose, something is seriously wrong there.

Never said he was not responsible, and I believe it showed gross lack of accountability. However after researching the way those things were run back then I can understand how it went down.

 

[RabidMongoose]

He initiatially defended a publication with his name on it? You don't say!

Please tell me more on how Paul is a racist, I'm intriqued.

(btw I'm laughing at you)

He defended the statements and said that we had to read them in full context. Full racist context.

BTW, I feel sorry for you because you have been brainwashed by a crazy old fucker who is shitting in adult diapers.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Never said he was not responsible, and I believe it showed gross lack of accountability. However after researching the way those things were run back then I can understand how it went down.

Please tell us about your Paulbot research.

BTW, now I'm laughing at you! Hahaha!

 

[Steeplerot]

Ron Paul wrote some racist newsletters 25 years ago, therefore the millions of people who consider themselves libertarians are all racist.

You're truly an intellectual giant.

So many right wing libertarians are racist because when you drill down the defense is "real" capitalism never happened because of socialism statism, collectivism. Etc) really this is a very old right wing code word for Jews. The foundation of neo-liberalisms view of "liberty" is a capitalist dog eat dog world of nihilsm. The very roots of fascism itself.

To me personally I see neo-liberal (which is exactly what it is) Americans use the word "libertarian" as a badge of ignorance.

 

[nextJin]

Please tell us about your Paulbot research.

BTW, now I'm laughing at you! Hahaha!

He defended the statements and said that we had to read them in full context. Full racist context.

BTW, I feel sorry for you because you have been brainwashed by a crazy old fucker who is shitting in adult diapers.

How old are you?

 

[glenn1]

So many right wing libertarians are racist because when you drill down the defense is "real" capitalism never happened because of socialism statism, collectivism. Etc) really this is a very old right wing code word for Jews. The foundation of neo-liberalisms view of "liberty" is a capitalist dog eat dog world of nihilsm. The very roots of fascism itself.

To me personally I see neo-liberal (which is exactly what it is) Americans use the word "libertarian" as a badge of ignorance.

I don't care if you call me racist, if that's your best argument that's a sad state of affairs. Because in the end, contemporary liberalism has been the worst thing to happen to minorities since Reconstruction.

 

[RabidMongoose]

How old are you?

Please tell us about your 'research.'

 

[nextJin]

Please tell us about your 'research.'

How about you start giving specifics, links to "anything", or something more relevant than basically screaming RACIST at the top of your sad lungs?

- You failed to disclose your age (I am sure you are older, just vastly ignorant or worse plain uneducated)
- You failed to show anything of value on his actual guilt of authorship.
- You failed to show anything in 30 decades of pubic service to associate him with being a racist; no quotes, interviews, second hand accounts, debate gaffs, videos, radio interviews, nothing.
- You failed to ever address his support for minorities as a medical doctor as far back as the 70's. Providing free healthcare to minorities and the poor.
- You failed to ever address his very vocal arguments of a horribly biased criminal justice system that punishes minorities in much greater numbers for the same crimes. This can be traced back to the mid '80s.

The ball is not in my court, I will not play some ridiculous game of glenn beck raped a 13 yr old girl with you. Now man up, find something or shut the fuck up.

 

[Incorruptible]

So many right wing libertarians are racist because when you drill down the defense is "real" capitalism never happened because of socialism statism, collectivism. Etc) really this is a very old right wing code word for Jews. The foundation of neo-liberalisms view of "liberty" is a capitalist dog eat dog world of nihilsm. The very roots of fascism itself.

To me personally I see neo-liberal (which is exactly what it is) Americans use the word "libertarian" as a badge of ignorance.

The only ignorant ones are you and your ilk.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

So many right wing libertarians are racist because when you drill down the defense is "real" capitalism never happened because of socialism statism, collectivism. Etc) really this is a very old right wing code word for Jews.

That may be true for some people, but the concepts behind libertarianism predate what we now know as "socialism" by decades or even centuries.

And also, saying that any criticism of socialism is automatically anti-Semitism is nonsense.

Never said he was not responsible, and I believe it showed gross lack of accountability. However after researching the way those things were run back then I can understand how it went down.

My main issue with him over this is not what he did 25 years ago, but the way he has danced around it in recent years instead of owning up and taking full responsibility. It strongly undermines his reputation and character, IMO.

 

[fskimospy]

How about you start giving specifics, links to "anything", or something more relevant than basically screaming RACIST at the top of your sad lungs?

- You failed to disclose your age (I am sure you are older, just vastly ignorant or worse plain uneducated)
- You failed to show anything of value on his actual guilt of authorship.
- You failed to show anything in 30 decades of pubic service to associate him with being a racist; no quotes, interviews, second hand accounts, debate gaffs, videos, radio interviews, nothing.
- You failed to ever address his support for minorities as a medical doctor as far back as the 70's. Providing free healthcare to minorities and the poor.
- You failed to ever address his very vocal arguments of a horribly biased criminal justice system that punishes minorities in much greater numbers for the same crimes. This can be traced back to the mid '80s.

The ball is not in my court, I will not play some ridiculous game of glenn beck raped a 13 yr old girl with you. Now man up, find something or shut the fuck up.

Look I'm sorry, but a newsletter he published and profited from repeatedly engaged in really racist speech and when asked about it he defended it, and the racist statements in specific. His excuses for those statements have changed over the years and now he claims that he lied to reporters in the 90's because he thought saying someone else wrote them would be "too confusing" for voters. That smells an awful lot like bullshit to me.

If you support Ron Paul's views on public policy I find that to be unfortunate and naive, but they are certainly legitimate views for one to hold. Defending him on those newsletters is a pretty tough hill to climb though.

 

[nextJin]

Look I'm sorry, but a newsletter he published and profited from repeatedly engaged in really racist speech and when asked about it he defended it, and the racist statements in specific. His excuses for those statements have changed over the years and now he claims that he lied to reporters in the 90's because he thought saying someone else wrote them would be "too confusing" for voters. That smells an awful lot like bullshit to me.

If you support Ron Paul's views on public policy I find that to be unfortunate and naive, but they are certainly legitimate views for one to hold. Defending him on those newsletters is a pretty tough hill to climb though.

I'm defending the racist by association bullshit. Actions speak louder than words, show me something. I'm tired of ignorant people throwing that accusation out there.

If you are going to also say he defended the racist comment show me which comment he was referring too. Are you talking about the one where he said most minorities in the capital are criminal?

Or did he say and defend all the views in the publication including where a minority congressman was attacked who funny enough has been personal friends with him for decades?

Show me the pic of grand wizard Paul, show me video or something, like I said I will take a properly done photoshop image.

Phokus got owned, Rabid seems to be done, and steeple rot has been done since the USSR failed. Do you want to try an take a swing next?

 

[Incorruptible]

Look I'm sorry, but a newsletter he published and profited from repeatedly engaged in really racist speech and when asked about it he defended it, and the racist statements in specific. His excuses for those statements have changed over the years and now he claims that he lied to reporters in the 90's because he thought saying someone else wrote them would be "too confusing" for voters. That smells an awful lot like bullshit to me.

If you support Ron Paul's views on public policy I find that to be unfortunate and naive, but they are certainly legitimate views for one to hold. Defending him on those newsletters is a pretty tough hill to climb though.

Ron Paul a "racist" when he treated a black man and his white wife who was pregnant and were refused healthcare by all the other white doctors. Yeah a real racist and you conveniently ignore all the liberals who preach tolerance yet many of them live in GATED WHITE COMMUNITIES


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3qI77NdBYA

 

[fskimospy]

I'm defending the racist by association bullshit. Actions speak louder than words, show me something. I'm tired of ignorant people throwing that accusation out there.

If you are going to also say he defended the racist comment show me which comment he was referring too. Are you talking about the one where he said most minorities in the capital are criminal?

Or did he say and defend all the views in the publication including where a minority congressman was attacked who funny enough has been personal friends with him for decades?

Show me the pic of grand wizard Paul, show me video or something, like I said I will take a properly done photoshop image.

Phokus got owned, Rabid seems to be done, and steeple rot has been done since the USSR failed. Do you want to try an take a swing next?

If you really want to try and defend Ron Paul on this I'm glad to take you down too. Plenty of Ron Paul people tried to defend him on this when they originally came out too.

This blog has a good synopsis of much of the controversy.
http://reason.com/blog/2008/01/11/old-news-rehashed-for-over-a-dp

In Ron Paul's attempt to disown the newsletters he first come straight out and says that he lied to everyone's face about the article's origin. That right off the bat is an interesting defense: "I was lying to you then, but I swear I'm not lying to you now".

Knock yourself out scrolling through the repeated defenses of the writings in those articles and then come back and tell me how they were all part of a mysterious conspiracy. Maybe he's sorry he made them now and maybe he's reformed his ways. If so, good for him! (now all he's got to do is learn something about economics)

None of this changes the fact that he was either a liar, a racist, or both.

 

[RabidMongoose]

How about you start giving specifics, links to "anything", or something more relevant than basically screaming RACIST at the top of your sad lungs?

- You failed to disclose your age (I am sure you are older, just vastly ignorant or worse plain uneducated)
- You failed to show anything of value on his actual guilt of authorship.
- You failed to show anything in 30 decades of pubic service to associate him with being a racist; no quotes, interviews, second hand accounts, debate gaffs, videos, radio interviews, nothing.
- You failed to ever address his support for minorities as a medical doctor as far back as the 70's. Providing free healthcare to minorities and the poor.
- You failed to ever address his very vocal arguments of a horribly biased criminal justice system that punishes minorities in much greater numbers for the same crimes. This can be traced back to the mid '80s.

The ball is not in my court, I will not play some ridiculous game of glenn beck raped a 13 yr old girl with you. Now man up, find something or shut the fuck up.

He was involved with a racist newsletter for years. He profited off of the racist newsletter. He later defended the newsletters when confronted about it. He later made another racist statement years after being involved with his racist newsletters.

Ron Paul is a racist.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Look I'm sorry, but a newsletter he published and profited from repeatedly engaged in really racist speech and when asked about it he defended it, and the racist statements in specific. His excuses for those statements have changed over the years and now he claims that he lied to reporters in the 90's because he thought saying someone else wrote them would be "too confusing" for voters. That smells an awful lot like bullshit to me.

If you support Ron Paul's views on public policy I find that to be unfortunate and naive, but they are certainly legitimate views for one to hold. Defending him on those newsletters is a pretty tough hill to climb though.

The problem here is that you're talking about reality. Paulbots don't believe in reality, they live in their own world where apparently Ron Paul had nothing to do with his own newsletter. When confronted about it, the Paulbot talks about how his research has shown that Ron Paul had nothing to do with his own newsletter. But when asked about his research, the Paulbot runs away like a typical racist supporter.

 

[Incorruptible]

He was involved with a racist newsletter for years. He profited off of the racist newsletter. He later defended the newsletters when confronted about it. He later made another racist statement years after being involved with his racist newsletters.

Ron Paul is a racist.

You are a complete moron. You have repeated the same thing over and over.