I am only stating the truth that the Paulbots repeatedly deny the existence of.
One of them won't even talk about his own 'research' onto Paulism.
I am only stating the truth that the Paulbots repeatedly deny the existence of.
One of them won't even talk about his own 'research' onto Paulism.
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Inalienable rights? Libertarians still believe in that nonsense?
And how is equality false? I thought equality was a basic aspect of libertarian beliefs.
Look at this amusing Paulbot! When you state facts, it completely malfunctions!
Steeplerot
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Neo liberalism is the biggest fail since Stalinist state capitalism. Funny how stalinism maoism have now degenerated into crappy Neo liberal systems. Same difference in resuts.
Steeplerot
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Neo liberalism is the biggest fail since Stalinist state capitalism. Funny how stalinism maoism have now degenerated into crappy Neo liberal systems. Same difference in resuts.
Anyway the talk radio conspiracy about great society actully the racist folks us hilarious. Conservatism is full of shit, they will blame liberals in 30 years for homophobia, more revisionist conspiracy for sociopathic paranoid morons too brain dead/boring to think for themselves, so they must hide in a narrative.
Conservatism is a entertainment religion/cult. Not logic.
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nextJin
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Not running away from anything, I asked for something specific and your only answer is to again scream racist over and over like it will change anything. I am not going to bother with you until you show me something worth responding to. Paul originally defending those newsletters doesn't do much unless you know which statements he was defending. If you can give me a quote where he specifically defends everything they published then by all means let's have it.
Links broken but yes Reason has done quite a bit of investigation into the history. Most of their research has shown that Paul did not write those articles and most point to either Lew Rockwell or Rothbard specifically.
Most of the inquiries have lead many to believe it was their plan to build a new base of supporters through the newsletters similiar (not in method mind you) to Democrats and illegal immigrants. Get a base, then go from there.
It all boils down to Paul supported the Newsletters originally and when pressed on the matter he fumbled (lets face it he fumbled on alot of hard questions) and changed stances (If this is refering to his '88 run his campaign suggested it). Yet no one, not you or anyone else has actually proved he attended klan meetings (generalization).
In my opinion it comes down to Paul not wanting to out Rockwell or Rothbard because the ramifications of that would slam Mises Institute, LewRockwell.com, and a few other organizations that they helped start. What he should have done is out them immediately and put his boot to the throat of Rockwell epsecially. He had a choice between friends and his movement, he tried to do both which he failed to successfully do.
However,
None of you have given any answers or rebuttals to Pauls decades long stances on Pro-Minority issues (aside from his anti group rights stances) or his medical assistance to Minority women back in the late 70's early 80's free of charge and many more things going completely against that of an angry white man.
Again, guilt by association. If that is your only arguments then Obama is a terrorist and I am not sure which is worse, a racist or terrorist.
Obviously you never read the US Constitution.
Wrong.
Equality is the red-herring of big government proponents (e.g socialists and communists) who cling to this fallacy in order to prop up their circular arguments so as to support their often authoritarian groupthink. If you actually had a sound and reasonable understanding of Libertarianism you'd know and understand that it is built on the premise which rejects the naive notion that the world is perfect or that society can achieve a perfect level of "Equality" without first using a unconscionable level of force against anyone who dares to rise above their peers in any aspect of life in general so as to achieve whatever vague notion of "equality" is being spouted off.
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The US was built on Libertarianism and Freedom. Maybe you should move somewhere else.
OverVolt
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Libertarians are going to make people who defend the constitution look like crazies, even though it would be best for the country.
Thanks libertarians.
Libertarians tend to be huge conspiracy nuts.
http://www.luckygunner.com/12ga-3-uranium-drone-load-tacnition-5-rounds
Look at that libertarian bait! I thought it was funny but I didn't realize it was an April fools joke because I didn't try to buy it which apparently some people tried to in 0.02 seconds.
Look at the comments in the link. Oh man.
Read the description and details. So funny.
Thanks libertarians.
Libertarians tend to be huge conspiracy nuts.
http://www.luckygunner.com/12ga-3-uranium-drone-load-tacnition-5-rounds
Look at that libertarian bait! I thought it was funny but I didn't realize it was an April fools joke because I didn't try to buy it which apparently some people tried to in 0.02 seconds.
Look at the comments in the link. Oh man.
Read the description and details. So funny.
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IronWing
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The US was built on collective action and corporatism. Historically, government corruption and corporate greed built most of our infrastructure.
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yeah, because if something is merely written down, it has to be true!!!
hmmm.. so equality of rights and freedoms is not equality? You do know there are different modes of equality, right?
zephyrprime
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Tell me why slavery isn't allowed against any one person be they black, white, man, woman, old, young etc again?
Oh that's right because in this nation we have come to a well reasoned and well established conclusion (enshrined in our Constitution) that all individuals have the inalienable right to not be willfully and forcibly enslaved to another person and that it is our duty/responsibility to uphold that right for other individuals in society because our rights do not trump their inalienable right to not be enslaved.
You're talking about the application of rights/freedoms (which are inalienable) which is not the same as considering the outcomes of those rights/freedoms and why they differ from person to person in our society/nation.
Thus this has everything to do with the fact that people are not all equal because to achieve this goal you'd have to nullify all shortcomings and advantages of every person in society in order to reach any semblance of "equality". Of which would itself result in a wide scale furthering of injustices being committed against a host of people in this nation in the pursuit of the phantom notion of "equality" which does not exist because the war on "inequality" itself is a faux concept.
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LOL - Every communist/socialist government has had animals in it which are more equal than others in the end. No matter how egalitarian their espoused views or attempts are to reach that illusional nirvana of equality in the beginning they always end up with elites at the top and everyone else being miserable at the bottom.
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