"Liberals are such idiots!"

[Thebobo]

You have the Radical right the Liberal left and the gutless middle

 

[bradly1101]

I would say 95% of it comes from one person the other 4% from another person and the rest is random lash out frustration.

That explains a lot. I'm not in the habit of keeping track of who writes what. Maybe I should be.

 

[irishScott]

You have the Radical right the Liberal left and the gutless middle

Less gutless and more disorganized. The very definition of moderate means that the "center" holds about 1 set of views for every person occupying it. If the moderates somehow coalesced into a conherant party and voted like Republicans, we'd be a single-party nation. This is also why every Presidential (and most Senatorial) candidates immediately swing to the middle at their first possible opportunity.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Placate the extremists to win the primary, placate the moderates to win the election.

 

[shortylickens]

Placate the extremists to win the primary, placate the moderates to win the election.

Pretty much.

 

[bradly1101]

Placate the extremists to win the primary, placate the moderates to win the election.

I wonder how we can find candidates we can truly believe in. The last one I had a lot of respect for was Mr. Wellstone. He had a logical agenda that really made sense to me (no surprise) and he was so dedicated.

 

[shortylickens]

Paul Wellstone?

 

[bradly1101]

Paul Wellstone?

Yes.

 

[Craig234]

I'm talking people who think that when defending your home with a gun, you're more likely to hurt your family than the robber...

I've never heard anyone say that. OWNING a gun is more dangerous to your family than many people realize - but when in the act of actually defending it, never heard that said.

People who think welfare cards should be redeemable for cash

Never heard that one either. Liberals are generally aware of the problems with cash.
That one I can believe there is a small percent, but I expect it's a small percent.

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People who hypocritically denounce Christianity for its social conservatism yet decry all critics of Islam as "Islamophobes".

It's not hypocritical. What is being attack is mindless, igorant, bigoted hatred of Muslims.

Not only do I have no problem with legitimate criticisms of Muslims - if I could ever find a right-winger who made any - but I have plenty of strong criticisms myself of some Muslims.

I've said before, as fundamentalist Christians are to liberals, fundamentalist Muslims are to fundamentalist Christians.

Fundamentalist Muslims are in many ways like fundamentalist Christians on steroids.

How many Christians forego alcohol and tobacco religiously except Mormons? Christians might go to Church on Sundays; Muslims pray 5 times a day. Most fundamentalist Christians seem to ignore a lot of the bible, such as the teaching to not care so much about wealth and use it to help the poor, while stricter Muslims seem to give a lot of weight to such teachings. Religion seems to play a bigger part in their life than the things like hating gays - but many Muslims do that a lot more too. No marriage? Try jail and execution.

So no, it's not hypocritical - it's rather aimed at those people who just hate Muslims with blind bigotry. The types who do things like fight against a 'Mosque near gorund zero'.

People who buy that Trayvon Martin was some innocent, cute little street kid and Zimmerman was some murderous white-hispanic racist killer.

This is the one you have some point on, though you exaggerate it.

I do think that claims of racism are rushed to and could be false here. But then again, let me raise some very legitimate issues with racism and watch them run away.

In many ways the Liberal ideology seems to be based around fear of pain, and that anything which reduces pain is a good thing, damn the costs. That's as scary an ideology to me as any social conservitard; and it's reflected rather well on the big stage. Democrats have no spine, and Republicans have no sense.

That's childish name calling and ranting, and full of crap. Liberals are for things like justice and opportunity for people, all people.

 

[Craig234]

I wonder how we can find candidates we can truly believe in. The last one I had a lot of respect for was Mr. Wellstone. He had a logical agenda that really made sense to me (no surprise) and he was so dedicated.

Check the progressive caucus in Congress. Bernie Sanders if you want one name.

 

[irishScott]

I've never heard anyone say that. OWNING a gun is more dangerous to your family than many people realize - but when in the act of actually defending it, never heard that said.



Never heard that one either. Liberals are generally aware of the problems with cash.
That one I can believe there is a small percent, but I expect it's a small percent.

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It's not hypocritical. What is being attack is mindless, igorant, bigoted hatred of Muslims.

Not only do I have no problem with legitimate criticisms of Muslims - if I could ever find a right-winger who made any - but I have plenty of strong criticisms myself of some Muslims.

I've said before, as fundamentalist Christians are to liberals, fundamentalist Muslims are to fundamentalist Christians.

Fundamentalist Muslims are in many ways like fundamentalist Christians on steroids.

How many Christians forego alcohol and tobacco religiously except Mormons? Christians might go to Church on Sundays; Muslims pray 5 times a day. Most fundamentalist Christians seem to ignore a lot of the bible, such as the teaching to not care so much about wealth and use it to help the poor, while stricter Muslims seem to give a lot of weight to such teachings. Religion seems to play a bigger part in their life than the things like hating gays - but many Muslims do that a lot more too. No marriage? Try jail and execution.

So no, it's not hypocritical - it's rather aimed at those people who just hate Muslims with blind bigotry. The types who do things like fight against a 'Mosque near gorund zero'.



This is the one you have some point on, though you exaggerate it.

I do think that claims of racism are rushed to and could be false here. But then again, let me raise some very legitimate issues with racism and watch them run away.




That's childish name calling and ranting, and full of crap. Liberals are for things like justice and opportunity for people, all people.

As I've said, I've heard all of the above on these very forums without any exaggeration. I've heard some of the issues repeated in many other places, including real life. Sorry if that sticks in your craw.

As for the bolded, that's such a generic, meaningless statement it's hilarious. Every ideology on the face of the planet claims it stands for "justice and opportunity for people, all people". The modern American liberal seems to view justice and opportunity as something that should be wrapped up like a birthday present and spoon-fed to them, not something that they have a personal responsibility to uphold or provide.

Their version of "justice" includes letting violent felons out on parole while denigrating those who defend themselves. Their version of "opportunity" means the government gives the poor money regardless of whether they spend it responsibly.

Granted I could say just as many nasty things about Conservatives, but most Conservative nastiness comes from their social policies and trickle-down bullshit. The former is a dying ideology and the latter is stagnant, only maintained by big business lobbyists that have been around since the dawn of time. Liberalism is far more virulent, far more superficially acceptable to those not willing to think critically, and if it's not reigned in and regulated quite dangerous. It's the soft man's ideology, hence its popularity with my comparatively spoiled generation. Whereas the worst bits of Conservatism are somewhat controlled or dying, the worst bits of liberalism have the potential to run rampant given the right circumstances.

No doubt you'll spill piss and vinegar all over this post and claim "ZOMG NO! THOSE AREN'T REAL LIBERALS!" or something similar. All I know is what I've observed, and being in a sizable college town; trust me, I've gotten some VERY close looks at liberals and conservatives (the local pro-life vanguard and their huge dead-fetus billboards on the campus green was particularly disgusting).

 

[Ichinisan]

Liberals are way more open about their vitriolic hatred for conservatives. What world is OP living in?

 

[DeadFred]

Check the progressive caucus in Congress. Bernie Sanders if you want one name.

Ahh yes, the good ol' Marxist caucus and self avowed socialist Bernie Sanders. I see your true color.....RED!

 

[Genx87]

I keep hearing that in these discussions. Also
"retarded fu@king liberals," "piece of shit liberals," etc.

I fully support everyone's right to their opinion.

I so far haven't heard this kind of vitriol going the other way though (no "retarded fu@king conservative" comments).

Does the name calling help to make a point? By being so emphatic about disparaging another's beliefs rather than using that space to more fully make one's own point I think hurts an argument.

To me it takes the thrust away from the rest of what's said.

What do you think?

Edit: I'm as liberal as they come.

If you havent heard the vitriol going back the other way. Spend more time in here.

 

[nehalem256]

Their version of "justice" includes letting violent felons out on parole while denigrating those who defend themselves. Their version of "opportunity" means the government gives the poor money regardless of whether they spend it responsibly.

Haha. Personally I think justice basically means people getting what they deserve. Think if a guy murders someone and then gets off because of some technicality; no one is going to say justice was served

By this definition liberal "justice" is really closer to injustice.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

LOL...looks like the OP just fell off the turnip truck.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Conservatives vote their hatreds and fears ahead of their own interests.
Liberals vote because, like, you know, it's fun to vote.

Ehhh - not sure if that quite coincides...

Who is the one voting to ban guns?

You could say conservatives are voting for fear of government takeover - in reality it's just preserving our rights though.

Liberals are voting for fear that the guns are going to start floating in the middle of the night, load themselves with ammunition (that you supply), turn the safety off, and aim at yourselves, and fire at yourselves.

 

[Incorruptible]

Have you missed every debate on Gay Marriage and Trayvon Martin where liberals constantly call people who disagree with them racists or bigots?

In fact it is their primary argument.

This. There is name calling on both sides but one side the liberals has far more hatred than the other side. Even in real life liberals will use violence to stop Conservatives.

 

[digiram]

that shit goes both ways, it's a symptom of the main reason why America is going down the drain.

also, P&N... have you heard of it?

Yep, and those that run the show can keep us divided. So that we continue to look at each other for problems instead of where the actual problem stems from.

 

[jackstar7]

I'm the victim!

No, I'm the victim!



Sigh. Bunch of goddamn babies.

 

[Incorruptible]

Ahh yes, the good ol' Marxist caucus and self avowed socialist Bernie Sanders. I see your true color.....RED!

Agree. Bernie sanders is part of what's wrong with this country. The guy is a socialist moron and piece of shit. The US was built on the free market and socialism. The people that vote for that scumbag should have their heads examined.

 

[Thebobo]

The US was built on the free market and socialism.

Well I, oh never mind...

 

[justoh]

Surely if incorruptible was trolling he wouldn't be using "scumbag," "moron", and "piece of shit" in every single post. Then again, it it possible that he could actually be genuine? Does anyone know?

 

[woolfe9998]

LOL...looks like the OP just fell off the turnip truck.

Possibly, but he apparently isn't the only one. Many people in this thread are taking one side or the other, when the truth is both sides express tons of vitriol at the other. And while it's possible one or the other is slightly worse no one has compiled data to say that with any certainty.

There is really no reason to take either position in this thread unless you're part of the problem.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Possibly, but he apparently isn't the only one. Many people in this thread are taking one side or the other, when the truth is both sides express tons of vitriol at the other. And while it's possible one or the other is slightly worse no one has compiled data to say that with any certainty.

There is really no reason to take either position in this thread unless you're part of the problem.

The bolded was my point as well. I just thought the OP's liberal myopia was comical....nothing more, nothing less.