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LGA 2011 Owners.. The Xeon 8 Core 16 HT E5-2687W is finally here

20MB L3$, 3.1GHz 8 cores, and a 150W TDP. Not bad.

The price IS steep though, I'm really curious why they didn't release this part also as a $2k extreme processor?

The folks who can justify a $1k extreme CPU would surely have ponied up another $1k to get the next uber-l33t cpu that Intel had to offer.
 
Idontcare said:
20MB L3$, 3.1GHz 8 cores, and a 150W TDP. Not bad.

The price IS steep though, I'm really curious why they didn't release this part also as a $2k extreme processor?

The folks who can justify a $1k extreme CPU would surely have ponied up another $1k to get the next uber-l33t cpu that Intel had to offer.
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If the bclk straps work on these chips, then I think enthusiasts will buy them. If not, then...EVGA is being silly by releasing an SR-3.
 
150W TDP, toasty. If SB-E didn't already make the case for watercooling with overclocking, this chip sure does.

You need a server board for this one I thought? It will not work in my mobo, for example?
 
Ah, Intel finally catching up with AMD. About time they released an 8-core CPU!




[Just kidding. Please don't hurt me.]
 
Intel17 said:
No, it'll work on X79 boards.
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Cool, or this? 😱

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Chiropteran said:
Ah, Intel finally catching up with AMD. About time they released an 8-core CPU!




[Just kidding. Please don't hurt me.]
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Intel has had 8 core/16 thread x86 chips available for over 2 years, and 10 core/20 thread processors available for nearly a year.

Being ignorant to a product line is not an excuse for making things up to support your bizzare views.
 
Ferzerp said:
Intel has had 8 core/16 thread x86 chips available for over 2 years, and 10 core/20 thread processors available for nearly a year.

Being ignorant to a product line is not an excuse for making things up to support your bizzare views.
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[Just kidding. Please don't hurt me.]
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Come on now, hold your horses fanboy..
 
Grooveriding said:
150W TDP, toasty.
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Toasty is a relative term.

A 65W TDP processor is toasty compared to the 5W chips we had with the 486 cpu.

150W TDP is toasty compared to the 95W TDP chips we have now.

But 150W TDP is not at all toasty compared to the 200-300W GPU's we can purchase and shove into our rigs today.

When I OC'ed my QX6700 to 4GHz (vapoLS) the CPU itself was pushing about 270W. That was toasty but that was 2006.

Nowadays my 5GHz 2600K on-air pushes about 225W. That's toasty but nothing like what a 5GHz bulldozer pushes, or a stock 590 or stock 6990.

This new Intel chip would get toasty if it were OC'ed, but its not an extreme processor or a K-chip, so what kind of OC'ing can you do with it? maybe 10% by turbo numbers and blck adjustments?
 
Idontcare said:
Toasty is a relative term.

A 65W TDP processor is toasty compared to the 5W chips we had with the 486 cpu.

150W TDP is toasty compared to the 95W TDP chips we have now.

But 150W TDP is not at all toasty compared to the 200-300W GPU's we can purchase and shove into our rigs today.

When I OC'ed my QX6700 to 4GHz (vapoLS) the CPU itself was pushing about 270W. That was toasty but that was 2006.

Nowadays my 5GHz 2600K on-air pushes about 225W. That's toasty but nothing like what a 5GHz bulldozer pushes, or a stock 590 or stock 6990.

This new Intel chip would get toasty if it were OC'ed, but its not an extreme processor or a K-chip, so what kind of OC'ing can you do with it? maybe 10% by turbo numbers and blck adjustments?
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Yup, I was meaning toasty in the vein of overclocking it. I thought this one could be overclocked like the 3820, which can manage some high clocks? From what I see on the net comparing my chip to 2600k on water it seems to run 10C hotter, so I figured this one would be really cooking with an OC.
 
The Sandybridge Xeon TDPs are running about 20W a core, so looks like they've actually shaved 10W off somewhere (or are power throttling if it needs more).

Intel tends to be pretty liberal with their TDP ratings though, they are true maximums that are difficult to reach.

I'm just glad that there is a replacement available for westmere soon in the server space. It feels like we've been buying them for ages. I don't like Intel's current release cycle.

low end --> enthusiast ---> server. They're reversed it, and I can't for the life of my fathom how it's a good idea at all. Yes, it lets them learn on the low end parts, but it makes the featureset in the server space lag so far behind. It's frustrating.
 
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Grooveriding said:
150W TDP, toasty. If SB-E didn't already make the case for watercooling with overclocking, this chip sure does.

You need a server board for this one I thought? It will not work in my mobo, for example?
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My 3930K runs very cool at 4.5Ghz with an H80. Full out water might be needed for 5Ghz but air should be fine for most people


Idontcare said:
This new Intel chip would get toasty if it were OC'ed, but its not an extreme processor or a K-chip, so what kind of OC'ing can you do with it? maybe 10% by turbo numbers and blck adjustments?
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Good question. I'd be satisfied with this processor at 4.2Ghz with the use of a 133 strap.
 
Normally I'd agree, but this is for extreme gaming and for a PC for 4-5 years. So they choice is between SB-E and this Xeon.
 
Definitely worthy of saying shiny!

WANT. Although I don't think I'll be moving to Ivy Bridge any time soon...

Ferzerp said:
I'm just glad that there is a replacement available for westmere soon in the server space. It feels like we've been buying them for ages. I don't like Intel's current release cycle.

low end --> enthusiast ---> server. They're reversed it, and I can't for the life of my fathom how it's a good idea at all. Yes, it lets them learn on the low end parts, but it makes the featureset in the server space lag so far behind. It's frustrating.
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I don't know about you but I would like my server products to be stable as possible. Latest technology edge might be awesome but it's not worth it if it's having issues. It's a great idea to release consumer product and see if there is any unforeseen issues. MS does the same thing. Release consumer OS and then release the server OS based on that consumer codeset.

I think most network admins would agree that they would prefer to see increase in stability than to see latest in technology which may potentially reduce stability/reliability/uptime.
 
Ferzerp said:
Intel has had 8 core/16 thread x86 chips available for over 2 years, and 10 core/20 thread processors available for nearly a year.

Being ignorant to a product line is not an excuse for making things up to support your bizzare views.
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Well, if I go to newegg, I do not find either one, so they are not easy to find or know about for your average joe. And calling people ignorant if we don't know Intel entire product line is harsh, and borders on an infractionable attitude. You need to play nice here, this is not highly technical.
 
tangrisser said:
Definitely worthy of saying shiny!

WANT. Although I don't think I'll be moving to Ivy Bridge any time soon...



I don't know about you but I would like my server products to be stable as possible. Latest technology edge might be awesome but it's not worth it if it's having issues. It's a great idea to release consumer product and see if there is any unforeseen issues. MS does the same thing. Release consumer OS and then release the server OS based on that consumer codeset.

I think most network admins would agree that they would prefer to see increase in stability than to see latest in technology which may potentially reduce stability/reliability/uptime.
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If I'm not mistaken nVIDIA also does this by releasing their Geforce lines before their Tesla and Quadro lines.
 
There isn't any reason to get this unless you use this for highly threaded work that you actually get paid for.

The truth is games will play the same on an i5 2500k. :biggrin:
 
Idontcare said:
This new Intel chip would get toasty if it were OC'ed, but its not an extreme processor or a K-chip, so what kind of OC'ing can you do with it? maybe 10% by turbo numbers and blck adjustments?
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I thought Intel server chips were typically unlocked 😕
 
Markfw900 said:
Well, if I go to newegg, I do not find either one, so they are not easy to find or know about for your average joe. And calling people ignorant if we don't know Intel entire product line is harsh, and borders on an infractionable attitude. You need to play nice here, this is not highly technical.
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Mark, I was pretty specific in regards to what I was talking about. If I am unaware of, for example, the entire line of mustangs, and I make a comment regarding them based on the v6 model, I do so out of ignorance. It is the most precise word to use. If you don't know about a particular topic, you are ignorant of it. Not sure which word you would prefer. Ignorant is not a pejorative term.

In fact, if the topic is the Intel product line, and you don't have knowledge of it, by definition, that means you are ignorant of that particular topic. I'm a bit confused at what you are taking offense of here.
 
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Ferzerp said:
Mark, I was pretty specific in regards to what I was talking about. If I am unaware of, for example, the entire line of mustangs, and I make a comment regarding them based on the v6 model, I do so out of ignorance. It is the most precise word to use. If you don't know about a particular topic, you are ignorant of it. Not sure which word you would prefer. Ignorant is not a pejorative term.
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OK, again, I know newegg does now have all of Intels models there, but NO 8 or 10 core server, or regular CPU's show up in their lineup, and that is where I go to browse. I don't see them there at all. If I google, I can see the below, but would I google for that everyday just to see if they finally made a 8 or 10 core cpu ?

From here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/224347/new_servers_feature_intels_10core_xeon_e7_processors.html

"Dell's four-socket PowerEdge R910 4U rack server, when configured with a 10-core Intel Xeon E7-4780 CPU running at 2.4GHz, can provide up to 38 percent improvement in Oracle application server and database performance over a previous-generation, eight-core Intel Xeon X7560 processor running at 2.26GHz, the company claimed."
 
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