Lets talk about guns and gun free zones

[JulesMaximus]

Here's a pic of ATOT's most liberal gun owner's favorite gun.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Woah

 

[JulesMaximus]

Woah...

 

[Nebor]

Revolvers are good for shooting bears & civil war reenactments. That's it.

 

[rudeguy]

Woah

Finger off the damn trigger!

Based off this one photo you have posted I deem you unfit for gun ownership. Please drop them off at your nearest FFL and transfer them to me.

And I want to hit the range too. But no time for that for a while

 

[JulesMaximus]

Finger off the damn trigger!

Based off this one photo you have posted I deem you unfit for gun ownership. Please drop them off at your nearest FFL and transfer them to me.

And I want to hit the range too. But no time for that for a while

It isn't on the damned trigger, it is alongside it in all 3 pics. :whiste: I can wrap my finger around the trigger easily. Besides, I am right handed. I needed that hand to hold the camera though.

Revolvers are good for shooting bears & civil war reenactments. That's it.

I have other guns that would serve other purposes well. I like this one because it is very accurate, has a smooth trigger and makes a loud boom. :wub:

 

[WackyDan]

Revolvers are good for shooting bears & civil war reenactments. That's it.

Bull.

I have a S&W 642 J frame and you can't beat it for point and shoot - and for around the house is the best option for my wife to get to and use.

Funny that it has a 1 7/8 barrel and it amuses me to no end that I shoot tighter groups than the guys shooting 9mm/40 cal out of 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 inch barrels at the same distance. Keep in mind that the 642 is double action only.

The 642 fit the bill as a small carry piece for the hot summers down here, and now I've migrated to a SA XDS in .45 auto which is slimmer.

So say what you want about wheel guns, they have a place and they are fun to shoot... and if you ever want to improve your shooting skills, getting a snub nosed DA revolver will do wonders for you.

 

[MtnMan]

I carry a gun. A concealed pistol is usually on my person if I have pants on. Sometimes when I don't have pants on but that is a different thread. I carry a gun in case myself, my family or someone else's life is in danger. I want the option available to me to be able to defend myself. I don't hope I get to use my gun in anger. I don't hope I get to see the gory aftermath of me shooting someone. I am very happy that to date my gun has never left its holster in anger.

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Can someone please help me make sense of these things?

I also carry have a concealed handgun permit, and I carry basically every time I leave the house. The purpose is self-defense of myself and family. That is the only reason I will draw, and it will never be in anger, but defense. That is one of the most reckless statements I have heard from anyone with a carry permit.

Anger is the last thing that should cause to draw your gun. You dog piled a guy that had his booger hook on the bang switch to turn in his gun, I can say the same to you if you believe anger is when you should draw.

To your question, because libturds are scared shitless of guns, solely through stunning ignorance, and these idiots actually believe that cops are there to protect them, and will come running if they call 911.

 

[rudeguy]

I also carry have a concealed handgun permit, and I carry basically every time I leave the house. The purpose is self-defense of myself and family. That is the only reason I will draw, and it will never be in anger, but defense. That is one of the most reckless statements I have heard from anyone with a carry permit.

To your question, because libturds are scared shitless of guns, solely through stunning ignorance, and these idiots actually believe that cops are there to protect them, and will come running if they call 911.

We already covered this: fired in anger=not fired in target practice or more specifically: to harm or kill an attacker.

Its used to differentiate between range shooting and defensive shooting.

 

[MtnMan]

We already covered this: fired in anger=not fired in target practice or more specifically: to harm or kill an attacker.

Its used to differentiate between range shooting and defensive shooting.

Hope you never have to defend yourself, because your statements are going to make the DA's job very easy to send you to prison.

I go to the range a minimum of twice a month, usually more frequently, and that is proficiency training. Different shooting stances, one handed, weak handed, etc.

I carry to defend myself and family when there is a threat, not when I'm angry. The people that use a gun in anger are the ones that make the 11 O'clock news as being booked for murder.

 

[rudeguy]

Hope you never have to defend yourself, because your statements are going to make the DA's job very easy to send you to prison.

I go to the range a minimum of twice a month, usually more frequently, and that is proficiency training. Different shooting stances, one handed, weak handed, etc.

I carry to defend myself and family when there is a threat, not when I'm angry. The people that use a gun in anger are the ones that make the 11 O'clock news as being booked for murder.

You really are special

 

[Nebor]

I also carry have a concealed handgun permit, and I carry basically every time I leave the house. The purpose is self-defense of myself and family. That is the only reason I will draw, and it will never be in anger, but defense. That is one of the most reckless statements I have heard from anyone with a carry permit.

Anger is the last thing that should cause to draw your gun. You dog piled a guy that had his booger hook on the bang switch to turn in his gun, I can say the same to you if you believe anger is when you should draw.

To your question, because libturds are scared shitless of guns, solely through stunning ignorance, and these idiots actually believe that cops are there to protect them, and will come running if they call 911.

I would have guessed laughter would have been the last thing to cause you to draw your gun. Hrmph.

 

[Nebor]

You really are special

Yeah, that guy's a dummy. Next he'll tell us that his crazy uncle made his AR15 full auto by filing down the firing pin, and that a 9mm will just piss a bad guy off, not kill him, but a .22 will bounce around inside someone and drop 'em right where they stand.

 

[rudeguy]

Yeah, that guy's a dummy. Next he'll tell us that his crazy uncle made his AR15 full auto by filing down the firing pin, and that a 9mm will just piss a bad guy off, not kill him, but a .22 will bounce around inside someone and drop 'em right where they stand.

is there something wrong with him or????

Did he really say that about the AR, 22 and 9?

I think I'm going to stop posting and posting in gun threads. There are some real nutters here that have started to worry me.

 

[exdeath]

Woah...

Model 19? Leaning on no because of the full length ejector section under the barrel.

Also, people who post old revolvers, shotguns, hunting rifles, and muskets and claim "see I own guns too!!1!" have no dog in the modern fight for gun rights. This image does more harm than good to the cause. You just become the poster child of a "good" gun owner for the liberals and promote their cause that "all anyone needs is old fashioned revolvers and muskets"

Just like politicians who don a orange vest and a engraved wooden duck hunting break action shot gun and claim to support gun rights are full of shit.

Lets see your AR15s and AK47s and 30+ rd magazines.

 

[exdeath]

Ah 629

 

[JulesMaximus]

Model 19? Leaning on no because of the full length ejector section under the barrel.

Also, people who post old revolvers, shotguns, hunting rifles, and muskets and claim "see I own guns too!!1!" have no dog in the modern fight for gun rights. This image does more harm than good to the cause. You just become the poster child of a "good" gun owner for the liberals and promote their cause that "all anyone needs is old fashioned revolvers and muskets"

Just like politicians who don a orange vest and a engraved wooden duck hunting break action shot gun and claim to support gun rights are full of shit.

Lets see your AR15s and AK47s and 30+ rd magazines.

Now whose projecting?

Oh and I have plenty of other guns. Would a Glock 17 or a MAK90 suffice?

I've been a gun owner for more than 20 years.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Bull.

I have a S&W 642 J frame and you can't beat it for point and shoot - and for around the house is the best option for my wife to get to and use.

Funny that it has a 1 7/8 barrel and it amuses me to no end that I shoot tighter groups than the guys shooting 9mm/40 cal out of 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 inch barrels at the same distance. Keep in mind that the 642 is double action only.

The 642 fit the bill as a small carry piece for the hot summers down here, and now I've migrated to a SA XDS in .45 auto which is slimmer.

So say what you want about wheel guns, they have a place and they are fun to shoot... and if you ever want to improve your shooting skills, getting a snub nosed DA revolver will do wonders for you.

I've had a couple of those over the years. Nice little gun but punishing to shoot especially with +P ammo. I ended up getting rid of them eventually... kind of wish I still had one though. I have a Beretta Tomcat that is narrower but equally punishing to shoot. I'll probably get rid of it eventually and get something else. I never shoot it. Would make a good backup gun but that's about it.

 

[exdeath]

Now whose projecting?

Oh and I have plenty of other guns. Would a Glock 17 or a MAK90 suffice?

I've been a gun owner for more than 20 years.

Ok so youre just trolling when you say you couldn't care less about what happens to "assault weapons"

 

[JulesMaximus]

Ok so youre just trolling when you say you couldn't care less about what happens to "assault weapons"

Not really. The MAK90 is easily the most useless gun I own and short of a foreign invasion or zombie apocalypse I don't really have any use at all for it... hell, I don't even have any ammo for it at the moment.

 

[irishScott]

Model 19? Leaning on no because of the full length ejector section under the barrel.

Also, people who post old revolvers, shotguns, hunting rifles, and muskets and claim "see I own guns too!!1!" have no dog in the modern fight for gun rights. This image does more harm than good to the cause. You just become the poster child of a "good" gun owner for the liberals and promote their cause that "all anyone needs is old fashioned revolvers and muskets"

Just like politicians who don a orange vest and a engraved wooden duck hunting break action shot gun and claim to support gun rights are full of shit.

Lets see your AR15s and AK47s and 30+ rd magazines.

I don't know about that. Gun grabbers hate revolvers too, they just hate them significantly less. I have no doubt that wheel guns would be portrayed as "archaic, obsolete, dangerous and unnecessary in the modern age" if they got their way with the rest of their laundry list.

Besides, we need to be a circus tent to some extent; less we end up alienating everyone like the gun grabbers have done.

 

[exdeath]

I don't know about that. Gun grabbers hate revolvers too, they just hate them significantly less. I have no doubt that wheel guns would be portrayed as "archaic, obsolete, dangerous and unnecessary in the modern age" if they got their way with the rest of their laundry list.

Well yeah... But for now revolvers are one of our "safe" guns that they will never go after, just like our semi automatics were promised forever safe in 1934 as long as machine guns were "restricted"...

 

[draknon]

Rudeguy, with a Michigan CPL you can open carry in "gun free zones". See Michigan State Police update 86.

MCL 28.425o provides that a person with a valid CPL shall not carry a concealed pistol in a pistol-free zone. First offense is a state civil infraction. The following is a list of the premises (excluding parking lots) included in the statute:
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School or school property, except a parent or legal guardian who is dropping off or picking up a child and the pistol is kept in the vehicle
Public or private day care center
Sports arena or stadium
A bar or tavern where sale and consumption of liquor by the glass is the primary source of income (does not apply to owner or employee of the business).
Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless authorized by the presiding official
An entertainment facility that has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
A hospital
A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
A casino (R 432.1212, MCL 432.202)

Note, the above statute applies to CPL holders carrying a concealed pistol. If the CPL holder is carrying a non-concealed pistol, the statute does not apply. As noted above, the unlawful premises listed in MCL 750.234d do not apply to persons with a valid CPL. Therefore, a person with a valid CPL may carry a non-concealed pistol in the areas described in MCL 28.425o and MCL 750.234d.

 

[jaha2000]

Rudeguy, with a Michigan CPL you can open carry in "gun free zones". See Michigan State Police update 86.

MCL 28.425o provides that a person with a valid CPL shall not carry a concealed pistol in a pistol-free zone. First offense is a state civil infraction. The following is a list of the premises (excluding parking lots) included in the statute:
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School or school property, except a parent or legal guardian who is dropping off or picking up a child and the pistol is kept in the vehicle
Public or private day care center
Sports arena or stadium
A bar or tavern where sale and consumption of liquor by the glass is the primary source of income (does not apply to owner or employee of the business).
Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless authorized by the presiding official
An entertainment facility that has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
A hospital
A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
A casino (R 432.1212, MCL 432.202)

Note, the above statute applies to CPL holders carrying a concealed pistol. If the CPL holder is carrying a non-concealed pistol, the statute does not apply. As noted above, the unlawful premises listed in MCL 750.234d do not apply to persons with a valid CPL. Therefore, a person with a valid CPL may carry a non-concealed pistol in the areas described in MCL 28.425o and MCL 750.234d.

As a MI CPL holder, i am not sure thats accurate.
you can not carry in a casino, period, not even a LEO can carry in a casino Open or concealed.
And as a CPL holder there is no way i would open carry in those places.

 

[rudeguy]

As a MI CPL holder, i am not sure thats accurate.
you can not carry in a casino, period, not even a LEO can carry in a casino Open or concealed.
And as a CPL holder there is no way i would open carry in those places.

its been that way for a long time. If you read the whole release, most of it says there is no case law to determine exactly what the law means. The AG has given an opinion but nothing has made it into case law. So in theory a cop *could* arrest you for carrying in a gun free zone and a judge *could* convict you. Or nothing *could* happen. The risk is if your gun gets covered up at all while open carrying, you are in violation. Put on your coat, shirt comes untucked, lots of things *could* happen.

I know that people have been testing the waters with open carry but its nothing I am interested in.