Left Wing Groups Call For Limitations On Speech

[drebo]

If you try to save the tyke, we'll shout you down as a commie pinko.

It's not about charity: conservatives aren't against charity. They're against GOVERNMENT WELFARE. Let the charitable organizations that exist to take care of this sort of thing do their work. They do exist, and people (Republicans included) do donate to them, and they do work.

The concern is whether or not the GOVERNMENT should be paying for people to own houses, go on vacations, and eat pizza.

 

[Danube]

It's not about charity: conservatives aren't against charity. They're against GOVERNMENT WELFARE. Let the charitable organizations that exist to take care of this sort of thing do their work. They do exist, and people (Republicans included) do donate to them, and they do work.

The concern is whether or not the GOVERNMENT should be paying for people to own houses, go on vacations, and eat pizza.

Religious conservatives donate more than secular (and cheap) libs


"Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227)".

Conservatives More Liberal Givers

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

 

[Perknose]

Religious conservatives donate more than secular (and cheap) libs


"Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227)".

Conservatives More Liberal Givers

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

All those scumbag TV evangelists and closeted gay Family Values humps have to pay for their crystal encrusted Mega-Churches and hate spewing Think Tanks and Radio programs, not to mention funding their rent boy accompanied junkets and the lawsuits when they non closeted ones get caught with prostitutes somehow.

TON of overhead there, son.

It kind of skews the results.

 

[Red Dawn]

 

[Bowfinger]

More rational people would not have voted for a guy that couldn't pass a FBI background check. More rational people would see something was wrong with all the Marxists and radicals Obama appointed to the admin. More rational people would understand Obama nuked (NUKED) the Dem party. Dems have to go more radical now because without shens and illegals voting they are toast. Notice todays historic GOP lead in generic ballot - and the real impact of most of Obamacrats shens haven't hit home yet. The psycho is now getting ready to cap speech - and rational people know it.

Seriously? You're not a parody poster?

You have no room to be calling anyone else psycho. I'm not impressed with the way Obama has performed in some areas, but wow. You're a loon. Grade A certified loon. "The more you act like buffoons, the more you'll be dismissed as irrelevant." Buh bye.

 

[spacejamz]

Sorry that you are too brainwashed to see the true implications ... or to understand how easily you're being manipulated by the fear-mongering, misinformation, and outright bullshit spread by the wing-nut propaganda machine. Every time you open wide and swallow a story like this you've been played, but you keep coming back for more.

If you find something offensive, why don't you just change the channel? That is what I would do if someone is preaching some crap I don't want to listen to. They have every right to say it, don't they? You know, that whole first amendment thing?? Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean they don't have the right to spew it.

Why is a study needed to determine what affect this has? My guess is that it will anger someone if they listen to something they don't agree with. Do you really need spend taxpayer money to figure this out?

 

[halik]

Un-American scumbags. "hate speech" is a matter of perception, who decides?

Republicans think you're hateful if you give welfare because it destroys the soul, adversity makes you stronger and all that.
Democrats think you're hateful of you don't give welfare because people will starve.

Which is it and worse who decides?

The supreme court already decided that fighting words are no protected

 

[spacejamz]

The supreme court already decided that fighting words are no protected

what the hell are fighting words???

 

[EXman]

Because only right wing nutjobs need rage spoon fed to them daily and even crazy people buy shit. Every advertiser knows this.

So what are you saying about the other mass media outlets that are dominated by the left wing kooks?

Keep believing that lie. That half of America are nutjobs.

 

[zsdersw]

"Look at all those skeletons in your closet!"
"Ignore the ones in mine.."

.. is the summary of this thread and most of P&N.

 

[Greenman]

Two can play this game, OP.

RIGHT WING POSTER CALLS FOR LIMITATIONS ON SPEECH

Even taken out of context that's not inflammatory. I think most of us here (with a few exceptions) are bright enough to distinguish the difference between free speech and liable.

 

[nonlnear]

The supreme court already decided that fighting words are no protected

Correct. And since then SCOTUS has not upheld a single conviction for fighting words. It is an incredibly subtle legal question.

 

[spacejamz]

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[EXman]

All those scumbag TV evangelists and closeted gay Family Values humps have to pay for their crystal encrusted Mega-Churches and hate spewing Think Tanks and Radio programs, not to mention funding their rent boy accompanied junkets and the lawsuits when they non closeted ones get caught with prostitutes somehow.

TON of overhead there, son.

It kind of skews the results.

See this is hate speach painting with that broad of brush trying to taint good people by their association with a few assholes. You can feel the hatred. It does not offend me as this poster has always leaned that way.

What you call "hate spewing" many call the constitution and following the law. There is No reason, none, that having laws enforced and following the constitution is "hate spewing." Think Arizona...

The Libs are no more entitled to free speech than anyone else. Yet when the right does it it becomes Hate? Typical 2+2= 13 Lib math and MO. Tell a lie long enough people might believe it.

Oh and Libs give less than conservatives because they just are not as giving people. The data is there that is why Obama is trying to tax charitable giving or close any incentives to give. What he does not understand is that for an overwhelming amount of conservatives, and people in general, give to help people in need and not to get a tax write off.

Obama wants to mandate redistribution of wealth while we rather see charities for what they are to help people for the right reasons not because they are a prospective vote in the next election.

 

[nonlnear]

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[Atreus21]

The reality here is that left wing radio couldn't compete in the marketplace. Air America was example enough of this. For whatever reason, people wanted to listen to Limbaugh. All the left can do in defense of this is rationalize that they're more level-headed, or can think for themselves. Don't be foolish. You're no different than us, except that you've lost the war in the talk radio arena. Rather than admit defeat in a fair fight, the left opts to silence the opposition.

 

[Red Dawn]

The reality here is that left wing radio couldn't compete in the marketplace. Air America was example enough of this. For whatever reason, people wanted to listen to Limbaugh. All the left can do in defense of this is rationalize that they're more level-headed, or can think for themselves. Don't be foolish. You're no different than us, except that you've lost the war in the talk radio arena. Rather than admit defeat in a fair fight, the left opts to silence the opposition.

Well both the Right and the Left Talk shows are hosted by whackjobs that tell their listeners what to think. The fact that the Right Talks Shows are more popular indicates that there's more on the Right that buy into their Bullshit than those on the Left.

 

[nick1985]

what? That list seems like gays, Hispanics and black people.

Sounds like the Democrat base to me

 

[child of wonder]

"The left."
"The right."

lol

It's so funny to me how people have to polarize everything into an "us" vs. "them" conflict like they're playing "Cowboys" and "Indians" again as children or some other "good" vs. "evil" playful drama.

The cure for hate speech is for parents to stop letting the TV raise their children, to emphasize critical thinking skills, and nurture curiosity. A public that can think independently is every politicians worst nightmare.

 

[Atreus21]

Well both that Right and the Left Talk shows are hosted by whackjobs that tell their listeners what to think. The fact the the Right Talks Shows are more popular indicates that there's more on the Right that buy into their Bullshit than those on the Left.

No. Get off the horse. You guys are no smarter, no more elite, than us.

 

[zsdersw]

You guys are no smarter, no more elite, than us.

No more dumb, either.

 

[Red Dawn]

No. Get off the horse. You guys are no smarter, no more elite, than us.

Well I'm not saying the average Liberal or Moderate is smarter because I don't think the average Conservative is a Wingnut that listens to Limbaugh, Hannity or those other bags of noxious gas, there's just more of them that do and those that do, like the smaller minority who listen to the Lib whackjob talking heads are lessor.

 

[SAWYER]

I can't believe liberals of all people would want free speech limited. There should be no bu bu but or excuse making, everyone should be outraged. What happens if this was to take effect and X years down the road when another set of scum are in control they want to squash some other speech, not good

 

[Red Dawn]

I can't believe liberals of all people would want free speech limited

Good that means you don't buy into the Wingnut bullshit. Obviously you aren't one of those Conservatives that listens to Whackjobs on the Rightwing Radio telling you what to think

 

[SAWYER]

I'm not a conservative, I pull a little from both sides