League of Legends - F2P MOBA (like DOTA) part 2

[Fenixgoon]

man the servers have been so hosed it was almost an hour wait last night. didn't even bother trying to get in.

 

[crownjules]

man the servers have been so hosed it was almost an hour wait last night. didn't even bother trying to get in.

That and there's tons of bugs. Flash/blink moves like Lee's and Mao's are broken. People are getting stuck on terrain. Riot has REALLY messed up with this last patch. I hope this is an eye opener for them and they hire some quality engineers. There was some posts I think on Reddit from an ex-Riot employee, and it seems they tend to pay cheap for their labor (they want ENTHUSIASM!). Well, you get what you pay for if that is the case.

 

[crownjules]

Hotfix finally released to fix a number of the bugs.

We have applied a hotfix to the game that addresses several bugs and issues. Here are the changes made:

Fixed a bug that occasionally caused Baron to attack and cast at a faster rate
Fixed a bug where some Champions were occasionally freezing during their jump abilities
Fixed a bug that was causing various Champions to become stuck in walls
Made a change that will reduce the number of disconnects and reconnects that players are experiencing
Fixed a bug that was not allowing players to scroll using the middle mouse button
Fixed a bug that was occasionally selecting the wrong set of Masteries when players used the “Edit” option
Fixed a crash that occurred on the game loading screen

 

[ImpulsE69]

Hotfix finally released to fix a number of the bugs.

Wonder why they didn't roll the servers back....and what's with the "Made a change that will reduce the number of disconnects and reconnects that players are experiencing"

Seriously...Ive had ppl disconnect constantly the entire game. One game 3 ppl dc'd at the same time throughout the whole game and were't on the same router.

It's just really bad.

 

[0___________0]

Why aren't they rolling out the Xerath buffs in the hotfix? I know Solcrushed said they'd do it in the next patch, but the ult changes were a noticeable nerf, I wish they'd implement the rest of the changes in the hotfix.

 

[crownjules]

It has been bad, and I don't know how Riot is going to proceed from this point on. The general forums have been filled with 1000RP posts and people demanding we all get it. Some in a very vitriolic manner. It apparently got to Pendragon as he posted something along the lines of "You are all entitled. You are dogs" or something like it. That obviously set off an entirely different tirade.

To me, it feels like Riot has started to let their incredible success get to their heads and forgotten what it was that got them there in the first place.

 

[Kabob]

It has been bad, and I don't know how Riot is going to proceed from this point on. The general forums have been filled with 1000RP posts and people demanding we all get it. Some in a very vitriolic manner. It apparently got to Pendragon as he posted something along the lines of "You are all entitled. You are dogs" or something like it. That obviously set off an entirely different tirade.

To me, it feels like Riot has started to let their incredible success get to their heads and forgotten what it was that got them there in the first place.

That's not at all what happened, I saw the post several days ago. People were demanding RP and he posted "sorry, isn't gonna happen but lets change the theme of this thread to puppies" and posted a picture of puppies. People exploded because they weren't getting RP and said he was implying we are dogs or something. Completely out of context.

Yeah they've made some screw ups but I think a large portion of the fanbase is getting ridiculous.

Anyways, let the insanity begin, Pulsefire Ezreal is out.

Lets see how many people who demand 1000RP go out and buy RP just to get this thing.

 

[crownjules]

Ah well, that's what I get for reading the hearsay posts on the Gen forums over there. I didn't see the original post.

Expect lots of queue dodging tonight as everyone tries to play with PFE.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Finally got me some Pulsefire!

Now I feel like playing ranked/norm draft and just banning Ezreal to mess with people

I wish Riot would stop releasing champs/new skins and hire some more engineers and develop or adopt a new engine and "client" already as Adobe AIR is terrible.

 

[Kabob]

Only played one game tonight (which, amazingly, had no Ezreal in it) but I spectated lots of other games and every...single...one had a Pulsefire Ez in it. To cap it off every...single...Ezreal was AWFUL. I didn't see a single good one in all my spectating.

Course, I just saw the very tail end of Game 2 of TSM Evo vs. Curse NA and apparently Aphromoo didn't get the memo because he crushed as Ez, yikes.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Only played one game tonight (which, amazingly, had no Ezreal in it) but I spectated lots of other games and every...single...one had a Pulsefire Ez in it. To cap it off every...single...Ezreal was AWFUL. I didn't see a single good one in all my spectating.

Course, I just saw the very tail end of Game 2 of TSM Evo vs. Curse NA and apparently Aphromoo didn't get the memo because he crushed as Ez, yikes.

curse crushed them so bad. I wasn't a fan of TSM's picks either. Game2 they had almost no cc whatsoever

 

[crownjules]

Patch preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97nlkHVvvU

Orianna buffs - global CD on all abilities lower for faster combos, lower CD on Q but lower damage, increased AP ratio on W, increased cast range and tether distance on E, adjusting values on her passive. Also when the ball repositions her ult goes on a short CD to prevent you triggering her ult after the ball just snaps back to you from being out of range. (Awesome, I love playing Ori but she's been weak after her pure damage nerf)

Nunu buffs - Reducing CD on Consume, raising it's damage at lower levels, and reducing the number of attacks to trigger his passive. All this to make him more viable as a jungler.

Global ultimates (Shen, Karthus, Soraka) are getting longer CDs.

LeBlanc bluffs - Q's missle speed is getting a speed buff (so you can't miss triggering it by using another spell), lowering the CD on Distortion, and if she uses Mimic on Distortion then she can choose to go back to both points (so Distortion, Mimic, go back to point A, go back to point B).

Let's hope this one doesn't break the game for nearly two weeks.

 

[zebano]

I've no idea why they would buff LB.... Anyway was rolling with a ranked 5s team last night and had a terrible 3.5min queue after which we ended up against some guys in their 3rd placement match who were all 1900-2100... yeah we got rolled hard. I actually managed to invade and steal their red early on but every lane got outplayed and I simply couldn't gank effectively. None of us are below 1380 so it's not like we're horrible players they were just that good.

The truly hilarious part was I played Leona the next game and our other jungler hadn't played skarner recently so he brought up a featured guide on solomid... it was written by the Hecarim who had just trashed us.

 

[crownjules]

They say the buffs for LB are to make her stronger late game. I just see them as making her stronger early game. No amount of number changing is going to change her kit's role and that's what makes her a weak late game champ. I also HATE laning against her and this buff means we'll be sure to see her more.

edit: Also, Riot's officially recanted their "Xerath's ult is bugged" story and are now saying that this was how they always intended it to be and the old instant cast animation was wrong. They just didn't mean to roll it out without the accompanying buffs that are coming. And those buffs? Some extra MPen on his W and 0.1AP on his E.

 

[Fenixgoon]

i still love playing viktor. so underplayed. his poke is awesome, his Q does solid damage, and he has great teamfighting ability.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

i still love playing viktor. so underplayed. his poke is awesome, his Q does solid damage, and he has great teamfighting ability.

He's underplayed because he has issues.

His range is SO SHORT. Which I find to be his biggest issue. This compounds with the fact that his Hex core, gives you SO LITTLE compared to whatever item your 6th sloth would use. This means that you can't really spend much gold on tanky items because then you simply wont have damage output, so you HAVE to go balls to the walls AP. And even then, he drops off damn fast late game because of that lack of a good item.

He needs to be close so his movements are extremely predictable, any many many mages mid can take advantage of that and just pound on Viktor from range. His E is also extremely manga hungry which is an issue. And also with this range being short, hes also SLOW. Slow and short ranged is a terrible skillset. He needs to be in a perfect spot no matter what or you're going to die. Also, if you somehow miss your e or w, you're automatically useless in the fight.

He's pretty fun, but man he has glaring issues that make me angry when I play him sometimes.

 

[0___________0]

And those buffs? Some extra MPen on his W and 0.1AP on his E.

Seriously? I knew they would do this, big nerf to the ult, small nerfs that don't compensate for it to some other part of the kit. He should have gotten a range increase on the E, along with a CD nerf to either the W or E, and a slight damage increase. They could also have nerfed the damage on his ult a little and moved it to a charge like system. Maybe then he could be the artillery champ they wanted. AP Kog is how you do artillery. Are they still going through with the mana cost nerfs to him that they had on the PBE (Kog, not Xerath)?

 

[crownjules]

So I played a little bit of Jayce on the PBE. His ult is his weapon switch and you start out with it, but then it levels up like other ults at 11/16 (for the bonus effects you get switching).

Hammer mode -

Q: Leap strike with a slow
W: Passive mana gain on hit, active AOE damage over time
E: Minor knockback hit with a % of max HP damage

Ranged Mode

Q: Skillshot with AOE damage
W: A small ASPD boost
E: Wall that speeds up allies as well as his Q

Switching into Hammer gives you +Armor/MR and you get bonus magic damage on your next attack. Switching into Ranged gives your next attack's target an armor reduction for a few seconds. And every time you switch you get a small speed boost and no unit collision for a second.

 

[krnmastersgt]

It has a rank at 6 too, it starts off as just a weapon switch with very minor bonuses and ranks up to larger ones.

He has a LOT of ad scaling, but I'm still suspecting we'll see a fair amount of AP builds just based on his hammer form W and E (W has 1:1 ap scaling, his E does 20% of target's max health). If nothing else maybe at least a magic pen boots just to make his E do so much more.

I played around with him for a few games and he feels a bit weird but also has a lot of potential with his entire kit.

The really fun thing to do on the PBE though is team killing people as Tryndamere, his spin is bugged and damages your allies

 

[crownjules]

I'm thinking he's going to be built bruiser focusing on getting on-hit weapons. Wit's End and Black Cleaver anyway. His ranged W is a rapid fire 3-shot barrage that does 70% less attack damage so it's really perfect for getting up those stacks and on-hit damages. And it has a fairly short CD.

 

[krnmastersgt]

I'm thinking he's going to be built bruiser focusing on getting on-hit weapons. Wit's End and Black Cleaver anyway. His ranged W is a rapid fire 3-shot barrage that does 70% less attack damage so it's really perfect for getting up those stacks and on-hit damages. And it has a fairly short CD.

Sounds like you haven't used him quite yet, or didn't read the tooltips

It's 70% of your ad at rank 1, at rank 5 it's 130% of your ad at max attack speed (+15% per rank). And yes it's great with Wit's End and BC, however I see him being built the way that Jarvan and Irelia are currently: T-Force and Wit's End for damage, rest is just getting super tanky so you can't be downed quickly.

His kit is versatile enough that he could probably work in just about any capacity, but likely he'll just be used as a top laner that can go ranged and harass opponents, then turn to melee with it's time to brawl.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Managed to win at 19:55 with manual nexus kill.

That was fun.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Jayce patch notes are out!
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/jayce-patch-notes

And for those of you who prefer to just read them here:

New Skins in the Store
Full Metal Jayce

League of Legends v1.0.0.142
Ahri
Fixed: Essence Theft will no longer occasionally allow Ahri to spell vamp off more than one spell
Fixed: Spirit Rush's damage now matches the tooltip

Akali
Crescent Slash
Energy cost reduced to 60/55/50/45/40 from 60 at all ranks
Now activates Mark of the Assassin's secondary damage

Alistar
Trample
Damage reduced to 7-24 from 10-27
Triumphant Roar
Mana cost increased at earlier ranked to 40/50/60/70/80 from 28/41/54/67/80

Anivia
Fixed: Assists are now properly granted when successfully reverting Anivia to her Rebirth egg form

Ashe
Fixed: Hawkshot now displays the correct buff icon

Caitlyn
Cast time of 90 Caliber Net has been reduced
Ace in the Hole
Range increased to 2000/2500/3000 from 1900/2050/2200
Channel time reduced to 1 second from 1.25 seconds

Darius
Fixed: Noxian Guillotine's cooldown no longer refreshes upon killing Champion clones (e.g. Shaco's Hallucinate)

Dr. Mundo
Fixed: Burning Agony can now be turned off at low amounts of health
Fixed: Masochism no longer stops Dr. Mundo from using additional attack animations

Fiora
Blade Waltz
Cooldown reduced to 130/120/110 from 150/130/110

Gragas
Base Health increased to 523 from 493
Armor per level increased to 3.6 from 2.7
Body Slam
Charge speed increased to 1050 at all ranks from 650/750/850/950/1050
Mana cost reduced to 50 at all ranks from 50/55/60/65/70

Janna
Zephyr
Passive Movement Speed reduced at earlier ranks to 4/7/10/13/16% from 8/10/12/14/16%
Slow duration reduced to 3 seconds from 4 seconds
Monsoon
Cooldown increased at earlier ranks to 150/135/120 seconds from 120 seconds at all ranks

Karthus
Requiem
Cooldown increased to 200/180/160 seconds from 180/150/120 seconds

Kennen
Attack Range reduced to 550 from 575
Attack animations are now more responsive

Kog'Maw
Living Artillery
Additional cost stack maximum increased to 10 from 5 (max Mana cost increased to 400 from 200)

LeBlanc
Sigil of Silence missile speed increased to 2000 from 1400
Distortion
Cooldown reduced to 18/16/14/12/10 seconds from 20/18/16/14/12
Casting Mimic: Distortion no longer disables LeBlanc's ability to return to Distortion's origin point and vice versa

Lux
Base Mana Regen per 5 seconds increased to 6.6 from 5.6
Light Binding
Mana cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/75/90/105/120
Finales Funkeln
Mana cost reduced to 100 at all ranks from 100/150/200
Cast range now displays on the mini-map

Miss Fortune
Double Up
Range increased to better match her attack range
Make It Rain
Slow increased to 20/28/36/44/52% from 20/25/30/35/40%
Mana cost reduced to 80 at all ranks from 80/85/90/95/100

Morgana
Fixed: Tormented Soil continues dealing damage if Morgana dies

Nautilus
Dredge Line
Damage reduced at earlier ranks to 60/105/150/195/240 from 80/120/160/200/240
Cooldown increased at earlier ranks to 18/16/14/12/10 seconds from 14/13/12/11/10 seconds
Depth Charge
Primary target damage reduced at earlier ranks to 200/325/450 from 250/350/450
Cooldown increased at earlier ranks to 140/110/80 seconds from 120/100/80 seconds

Nunu
Visionary
Attacks required to activate reduced to 5 from 7
Consume
Damage increased to 500/600/700/800/900 from 400/525/650/775/900
Damage dealt to Dragon and Baron increased to 100% from 50%
Cooldown reduced to 16/14/12/10/8 seconds from 18/16/14/12/10 seconds
Absolute Zero
Minimum damage if interrupted increased to 12.5% from 0%
Maximum damage if interrupted increased to 87% from 70%

Orianna
Global spell cooldown reduced to 0.15 seconds from 0.5
Clockwork Windup
Base damage adjusted to 10-50 from 5-30
Damage amplification per stack increased to 20% from 15%
Maximum stacks reduced to 2 from 3
Ability Power ratio reduced to 0.15 from 0.2
Command: Attack
Missile speed reduced to 1200 from 1275
Cooldown reduced at later ranks to 6/5.25/4.5/3.75/3 seconds from 6/5.5/5/4.5/4 seconds
Damage reduced to 60/90/120/150/180 from 60/100/140/180/220
Ability Power ratio reduced to 0.4 from 0.6
The Ball now responds faster to Dissonance and Shockwave commands
Command: Dissonance Ability Power increased to 0.7 from 0.5
Command: Protect
Cast range increased by 100
Ball leash range is increased by 100 when attached to an allied Champion
The Ball will now respond faster to Dissonance and Shockwave commands
Command: Shockwave
Cast time increased to 0.5 seconds from 0.4
Fixed: Shockwave no longer stuns units for longer than the duration of the movement
If the Ball forcibly leashes back to Orianna, Command: Shockwave will go on a brief cooldown if it is ready

Rammus
Powerball
Mana cost reduced to 70/80/90/100/110 from 80/90/100/110/120
Reduced the spell casting and movement delay after collision
Defensive Ball Curl mana cost reduced to 40 from 50

Sejuani
Fixed: Sejuani's run animation now changes according to her movement speed

Shen
Stand United
Cooldown increased to 200/180/160 seconds from 180/150/120 seconds

Singed
Singed now has new spell effects for all skins, with the exception of Riot Squad Singed which retains its unique Poison Trail spell effect

Sona
Hymn of Valor
Mana cost reduced at earlier ranks to 45/50/55/60/65 from 65 at all ranks
Champion prioritization range slightly increased to better match her attack range

Soraka
Astral Blessing
Armor buff duration reduced to 3 seconds from 5 seconds
Wish
Cooldown increased to 160/145/130 seconds from 120/110/100

Veigar
Fixed: Veigar no longer gains Baleful Strike's Champion kill bonus when killing Champion clones (e.g. Shaco's Hallucinate)

Xerath
Locus of Power
Magic Penetration bonus increased to 16/22/28/34/40% from 10/15/20/25/30%
Mage Chains
Missile speed increased to 2100 from 1700
Ability Power ratio increased to 0.8 from 0.7

Ziggs
Bouncing Bomb
Mana cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/70/80/90/100

Zilean
Fixed: Chrono Shift now grant assists even if the target does not revive

Items
Hovering over items with auras or actives now shows their effect radius
Athene's Unholy Grail
Ability Power increased to 90 from 80
Magic Resist increased to 40 from 36
Ionic Spark
Combine gold cost reduced to 575 from 775 (total gold cost reduced to 2100 from 2300)
Chain lightning damage increased to 125 from 110
Quicksilver Sash
Combine gold cost increased to 900 from 700
Magic Resist reduced to 48 from 56
Pickaxe, Cloth Armor, Dagger, and Null Magic Mantle now properly display missing item build paths

Summoner Spells
Ignite
No longer useable on minions (still useable on jungle monsters)

Co-op vs. AI
Bots are now more likely to use abilities while retreating
Bots now properly retreat in their base to the summoning platform instead of getting stuck between the nexus turrets
Fixed: Bots no longer forget they are being chased
Fixed: Malzahar Bot no longer occasionally cancels Nether Grasp
Re-enabled Alistar Bot

General
Custom game bots now adjust to players' initial laning decisions before the first minion wave spawns
Dragon and Baron kills will now have a chat message and kill callout if your team gets the kill or sees them die
Spectators will now hear callouts indicating which team kills Dragon and Baron
Updated tool tips for Caitlyn, Graves, Janna, Kog'maw, Soraka, and Vayne
Champion-only targeting and pet control keys are now bindable
The Proving Grounds
Removed Nexus Turret health regeneration
Death timer scaling adjusted to an additional second every 60 seconds after 24 minute from an additional second every 90 seconds after 24 minutes
Fixed: The Improved Recall mastery no longer causes the recall sound to keep playing even after the player cancels the spell
Fixed: Recall particles no longer appear on Champions as they come out of Fog-of-War
Fixed a bug with Ezreal’s Mystic Shot range at different levels.
Dominion Nexus Crystal now displays over the shrine in Dominion
Fixed a bug where Twisted Fate’s Jack of Hearts name did not display properly during loading.
Fixed a typo in the Air Client for Gangplank’s Raise Morale

Also the Jayce Spotlight is also out now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2YuyBZ_zMU

 

[Kabob]

Uhmygersh, just finished the closest game I've ever played. We were winning in kills (soundly) all game but they were winning in towers. As the game progressed we pushed up and knocked out their mid inhib and both their nexus turrets but couldn't get their nexus. They aced us later and got our mid turret and inhib. Back and forth all game. It gets down to the end of the game, they get baron and kill 4 of us but our LeBlanc escapes almost dead. We killed two but their final three (Galio, Singed, and Teemo) are storming towards our base with a super squishy LB left to defend. They steamroll our inhib and at the turrets LB gets Teemo. Our Ali respawns, they get both towers and he knocks Galio away (who's lower) and he and LB get her. Singed is focusing the tower. Our Janna respawns. LB lands Ethereal Chains and stuns him with ~four hits left on the nexus. Janna ults him into our spawn right as I come back and I get the kill. Now we're frantically trying to kill minions and superminions before they get our nexus. We clear them out with one...hit...left on the Nexus. We push mid like crazy, not even bothering to kill the minions. Straight into their base we get their inhib, their Ez comes back up and ults us but we kill him. Get to their nexus right as Teemo and Vlad come back up, we hammer on the turret but a Vlad ult combined with a relatively high damage Teemo kills everyone but Ali. Ali kills their nexus with one hit left on his health...

Called it a night after that, best game I've ever played. They were actually a really cool group we played against, playfully chiding us back and forth, much fun was had.

 

[Kabob]

Umm, did anyone know that Sejuani's charge breaks through spell walls?

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