League of Legends - F2P MOBA (like DOTA) part 2

crownjules

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The last League of Legends thread if you care to read through those 100 pages.

League of Legends is a real time strategy game inspired by Defense of the Ancients (DotA) that has been developed by Riot Games. Teams of three or five players battle to destroy the other by taking out their base.

Gameplay

Every player chooses a champion unit that levels up over the course of the match. This grants stronger stats as well as the ability to rank up the champion's four unique abilities. You will also accumulate gold which can be used at the store in your spawn area to buy items that increase your stats and bestow other effects and abilities on your champion.

The maps are split into lanes along which are located towers. When the game begins, NPC units (called creeps or minions) will begin marching from your base to the enemy's in waves. These will assist you in your objective of destroying the enemy Nexus. In order to attack the Nexus, a team must first destroy at least one of the Inhibitors and both of the towers guarding the Nexus.

There are also areas between the lanes that contain neutral NPC monsters. These can be fought and killed for extra XP/gold. Additionally, the tougher neutral monsters will have buffs that can be gained when they are killed. There are some champions that can level up entirely by killing these neutral creatures and that is referred to as jungling.

Players can choose to play in Normal or Ranked games. Players maintain separate ratings (ELO) for each type of game.

Ranked games are for those wanting to experience the ladder format. During champion select, the team captains ban two champions each. Teams then go back and forth selecting their champion. Once a champion is taken, the other team can not select the same champion.

Normal games do not involve the banning process and champions can be used by both teams. It is also blind pick meaning you do not see what champions the other team has selected until the game loads.

There is also Custom/Practice mode which is a Normal game that you can see all players on both sides before going into champion select.

How does the Free to Play work?

League of Legends is 100% F2P. In the long run, you will be at no disadvantage if you choose not to spend a penny on this game. You can not gain additional in game benefits from anything purchased. Each week the champions available to be played for free rotates. There will always be ten champions available to play at the very least.

There are two types of currency in League of Legends: Influence Points (IP) and Riot Points (RP).

IP is earned by playing games and can be used to purchase champions and runes.
RP is purchased with cash and is used to buy champions and skins.

Champions can be purchased for 450, 1350, 3150, 4800, or 6300 IP.
Runes will cost between 10 - 2050 IP.
The typical match will earn you roughly 100IP.


Summoner Profile

The persistent part of the game is the Summoner, which tracks scores and statistics for each player. As you play matches you will earn Summoner experience. Obtaining new Summoner levels will unlock rune slots, give you a point for your Masteries, and can unlock new Summoner Spells.

Summoner Spells - In addition to the abilities of your champions, each player can take two Summoner spells during the champion selection. These are abilities that can be used for free during the match but typically have long cooldowns.

Masteries - Masteries are perks that effect gameplay. These are all passive effects though certain masteries will augment Summoner Spells. There are three mastery trees: Offensive, Defensive, and Utility.

Runes - Similar to masteries, runes effect gameplay in minor ways. Each Summoner level gained will unlock a new rune slot. But unlike masteries, the runes that you slot must be purchased with IP from the Riot store. The cost of runes is dependent upon their level and whether they are a primary or secondary rune. All players start with two rune pages and more can be purchased via IP.


Important Tips for New Players

League of Legends and any of the other DotA-like games can be very intimidating to the new player. There is a lot to learn and grasp just because of the number of champions. If you've played DotA/HoN then you shouldn't have a hard time adjusting as most of the core gameplay elements carry over. That being said, here's some tips.

1.) Death is bad. When you get good at the game, you'll figure out when it's acceptable to sacrifice yourself for the betterment of the team. But while you're learning you want to play defensively and avoid the respawn timer. Not only does your death give the enemy experience and gold but it denies you the very same since you're no longer in lane. That can snowball and lead to you falling behind your opponents as the game progresses.

2.) Map awareness is important. You have a minimap in the lower right section of your screen. Keep an eye on it at all times. You should not be attempting to knock down a tower if you can't account for three enemies. Do not rely on your teammates to call out missing enemies (unless you're all on voice comm, in which case yell at them for not doing it).

3.) Somewhat related to #2, buy wards! If you leave spawn with 75g or more and have a slot in your inventory, go back and buy one. Wards contribute to your map awareness and therefore they help you survive and sometimes even set up ambushes. The cost is minor for the payoff and if everyone on your team is contributing then the burden isn't shouldered by any one player.

4.) There is no better way to figure out how to beat a particular champion than to play them. So make use of the free champion rotation and play as many of them as you can. This also will help you wisely spend your IP when you go to buy a champion and you know which ones you enjoyed playing and which ones you didn't. Try to avoid buying blind and suffering from buyer's remorse, especially if you still need runes.

5.) Last hit creeps. Don't stand around attacking them constantly. This does a couple of things. First, you only get gold if you kill the creep and you want to make sure you're doing that as much as possible. Second, if you kill creeps fast then you will push your lane. This exposes you to ganking (unless you have a ward protecting your flank!). Third, standing around makes it very easy for enemies to attack you. Learn your champion's attack animation so you can time your last hits and learn how to do it under your tower.

6.) Smartcasting - This is an optional way to cast abilities. By default, you push the button corresponding to the ability and for any targetted or skillshot ability the cursor will switch to a targeting mode. You then click the mouse button to cast the spell where you want it. But a faster way to do this is to use the smartcasting option by going into the key mapping options. By default, it is SHIFT + <key> but you can remap it to anything you choose. What Smartcasting does is cast the spell at the cursor location. In effect, it will speed up the time it takes you to cast by eliminating the targeting mouse click. Obviously, you will want to be familiar with the size of AOE abilities and the ranges on skillshots.

Great! So this game is perfect then?

Haha, no! If only.

As with the other games that share it's genre, LoL's community can be difficult at times. In a small team-based game, it's very easy to single out who's doing poorly and criticize them. /Ignore those that you don't want to listen to anymore.

The stability of the game's servers is always in question. They go down on occasion, especially after major patches. Riot compensates players when it's particularly bad with IP boosts or, in the case of the last time, free RP!

Resources

www.leaguecraft.com - Champion builder feature is very cool and lets you see how much damage abilities/attacks will do with certain item/rune/mastery combinations. The guides can be hit or miss but at least give you some ideas to try out.

www.mobafire.com - More champion guides and forums, a little better than LC in quality.

www.solomid.net - Great for the streams of some of the top LoL players.

www.ventrilo.com / www.teamspeak.com / www.skype.com - Voice communication when playing in premades improves the game 100%. Get a mic! Seriously, it's like $10 for a decent enough one.

http://riotstats.com/ - Stat compilation site. Requires you to download their client which then allows you to upload the logs of your games. Also will upload to http://www.lolbase.net.
 
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Re: Malak (previous thread)

I think you're playing against bad Nocturnes if he's an easy kill. that said, Janna/Zil have great escape-ability for both themselves and their team as well as Zilean's massive early-game harrassment. Nocturne is the opposite, it's impossible to flee from him for the most part, he just has to be careful when choosing his fights early on.


I played my first Caitlyn yesterday and wow is it easy to escape from a bad battle with her. The combination of her traps and her net (knocks her back) are nuts. Throw in a flash and her range...


Edit: I found a cool bug yesterday. If Jarvan uses his move skill and ults you while you are moving away (I saw it happen both while flashing and while using Caitlyn's net) you can end up with the walls of Jarvan's ult around you but no Jarvan in the ult giving you free protection.
 
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Glad you decided to just go with a new thread!

Random LoL observation. I started playing right after Karma was released, since then our new champions have been:

Jarvan IV - Male - AD
Nocturne - Male - AD
Lee Sin - Male - AD
Brand - Male - AP
Rumble - Male - (I assume AP)

Wonder how they decide what characters to design next?
 
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How could they. Would have been awesome to continue the thread. It's like a neffing thread, only for games.

Anyway, Gold trolling aftergame chat. Absolute complete gold with plenty of rage and butthurt






OMGDINOSAURS joined the room.
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Luciferrs joined the room.
baako joined the room.
Hellxfire joined the room.
NikolaeV joined the room.
Reply joined the room.
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Yggdrasiface joined the room.
NikolaeV: im sorry that
Luciferrs: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=599424
SmashHammer: captain teemo on duty
NikolaeV: you had to go for a troll build
OMGDINOSAURS: more cheese please
NikolaeV: in order to show that
NikolaeV: our team was cheesy
Reply: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=599424
NikolaeV: isntead of veing competant
NikolaeV: and beating it
NikolaeV: im sorry that you couldnt get together
NikolaeV: a decent team during the choosing phase
NikolaeV: and working togetehr to make a good team
OMGDINOSAURS: we arent playing serious..
NikolaeV: also sorry taht you went 2/12
OMGDINOSAURS: you idiot.
OMGDINOSAURS: go to the link
NikolaeV: for no other reason than to say that
NikolaeV: this team was cheest
OMGDINOSAURS: thats how we got out characters
OMGDINOSAURS: your team IS cheese
NikolaeV: im sorry
OMGDINOSAURS: god to the link
NikolaeV: that your defnition of cheese is
baako: ok morde...your build is stupid
NikolaeV: characters that are good
OMGDINOSAURS: speedmo?
baako: very bad
OMGDINOSAURS: cheese
OMGDINOSAURS: stacking top pubstompers
baako: dont play morde again
OMGDINOSAURS: cheese
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO IS GOD
NikolaeV: uh huh
OMGDINOSAURS: i dont play morde
OMGDINOSAURS: ever
NikolaeV: intersting
OMGDINOSAURS: i randomed..
OMGDINOSAURS: idiot
baako: my point exactly
NikolaeV: idiot
NikolaeV: only idiots randm
baako: yeah
OMGDINOSAURS: or...
OMGDINOSAURS: and imagine this
NikolaeV: because it means that they have no intention
OMGDINOSAURS: maybe
baako: no
NikolaeV: of heelping the team
baako: no
baako: no
baako: no
baako: no
baako: not even
NikolaeV: by choosing a char
baako: dont kid yourself
NikolaeV: that synergizes well
OMGDINOSAURS: my team isnt a bunch of tryhard fucks who need to stack out team with strong characters
NikolaeV: uh huh
NikolaeV: so aparently, choosing fun characters
NikolaeV: makes us try hards
OMGDINOSAURS: we would stomp you if we played serious
NikolaeV: what do you want me to do
OMGDINOSAURS: sorry
baako: ok
OMGDINOSAURS: sorry you are so mad
baako: sure
NikolaeV: go choose a shitty character and start using bravery?
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO IS AWSOME
baako: well
OMGDINOSAURS: sorry you suck so bad
NikolaeV: lol
baako: why dont we
NikolaeV: sorry that you went less than .2
NikolaeV: really am
baako: put your money where your mouth is
SmashHammer: MUST UPHOLD THE SCOUTS CODE
OMGDINOSAURS: you went 6/4 as noct
NikolaeV: I mean, might as well be walking directly into our attacks
OMGDINOSAURS: thats pitiful
NikolaeV: uh huh
baako: mister i talk a lot of crap
OMGDINOSAURS: noct should get a kill every time his ult is off cd
NikolaeV: yes, because diving all the damn time
baako: let me show you a real morde
NikolaeV: against mostly tanky dps
NikolaeV: is an amazing idea
OMGDINOSAURS: but you cant organise to make that happen
SmashHammer: OMGITSNOTDINOSAURSITSSPEEDMO
NikolaeV: wonderful
OMGDINOSAURS: you are bad
NikolaeV: yes
OMGDINOSAURS: and your ass buddies are funny
NikolaeV: I am bad
OMGDINOSAURS: go fuck eachother more
baako: lol
NikolaeV: I am bad because i am compettant
baako: someone is mad
NikolaeV: so so mad
baako: CRYING LIKE A LITTLE BABY
baako: WHA WHA WHA
OMGDINOSAURS: yep im crying
NikolaeV: lol
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO DESTROYS ASS
OMGDINOSAURS: go get good
baako: thats all i hear from you kid
OMGDINOSAURS: go get good kids
SmashHammer: KILL
baako: lol
SmashHammer: FIGHT
SmashHammer: MAIN
OMGDINOSAURS: stop compensating with amazing characters
SmashHammer: MAIM
SmashHammer: LOL
NikolaeV: COMPLETANCE IS FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT
OMGDINOSAURS: go get good kid
baako: lol
OMGDINOSAURS: go get good
baako: ok
SmashHammer: CAPS
baako: me and you
SmashHammer: GO
OMGDINOSAURS: get good
NikolaeV: IF YOU'RE GOOD, YOU"RE CHEESIG
SmashHammer: GOGO
SmashHammer: GOGOGOG
baako: lets go at it
baako: me and you
OMGDINOSAURS: get mad kid
baako: now
baako: pussy
NikolaeV: uh huh
NikolaeV: i udnno
OMGDINOSAURS: i love how tight your asses are
NikolaeV: i think the guy who went 2/12 as morde of al peoploe
baako: thank you
OMGDINOSAURS: like seriously
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO IS ALWAYS MAD INSIDE
NikolaeV: is pretty mad
NikolaeV: my ass is still tight
baako: yeah
SmashHammer: HE IS SILENT ASSASSIN
OMGDINOSAURS: you are getting THIS worked up because of a silly unserious team
NikolaeV: cause I didnt get raped
NikolaeV: like you did this game
baako: omg
SmashHammer: RAWR
NikolaeV: lol
OMGDINOSAURS: sorry that our silly build make you mad
baako: if ya really want to play a morde then read up on it
baako: do the math
SmashHammer: MY BUILD IS PERFECT
OMGDINOSAURS: i dont care about mord
SmashHammer: BOW DOWN NOWWWW
OMGDINOSAURS: i really dont
baako: ok so
NikolaeV: so you ARE mad?
OMGDINOSAURS: i NEVER play him
OMGDINOSAURS: no
baako: what champ are you best at
OMGDINOSAURS: im laughing
NikolaeV: ah
NikolaeV: so goig with the
SmashHammer: lol
NikolaeV: "i never paly him" argument
NikolaeV: disregarding the fact that
OMGDINOSAURS: because you guys are obsessed with telling me that im bad with a character that i dont play
baako: WHAT CHAMP DO YOU PREFER!>!><!<?!?!?!?!!?
OMGDINOSAURS: i really dont
NikolaeV: ah
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO LAUGHS AS HE KILLS YOU
NikolaeV: because you're stating to fall back
NikolaeV: on shitty argments
OMGDINOSAURS: http://giantfunny.com/ultimate_bravery.php
baako: OK LOL
OMGDINOSAURS: http://giantfunny.com/ultimate_bravery.php
NikolaeV: when you realized tat our arguments are correct
NikolaeV: you see, bravery
NikolaeV: only works
NikolaeV: when you're good
NikolaeV: if you do it
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO WHISPERS IN CAPS
NikolaeV: without being good
OMGDINOSAURS: we arent tryign to make it work
NikolaeV: you just suck
NikolaeV: and its awaste of time
SmashHammer: UP UP
baako: YEP
OMGDINOSAURS: it only works for you because you hit it until you get somethign good
SmashHammer: AND AWAY
NikolaeV: thatn it shows you're a noob
NikolaeV: cause bravery is someting that pros do
baako: YEP
baako: BAM
NikolaeV: in order to embarrass suckers
baako: THERE IT IS
NikolaeV: if you do itand suck
NikolaeV: well you just suclk
NikolaeV: so yeah
NikolaeV: good job on showing that you suck
OMGDINOSAURS: seriously noct...
OMGDINOSAURS: go get a life..
baako: ONE DAY..YOU WILL GET A LITTLE BETTER
OMGDINOSAURS: you are te most pitiful lovely human ive ever met
NikolaeV: ahth get a life argument
NikolaeV: the hallmark
NikolaeV: of a desperate man
baako: YEP
OMGDINOSAURS: you are obsessed with this shit man
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO TAKES THE LIVES OF EVIL MEN
NikolaeV: who has no arguments to fall back on
OMGDINOSAURS: seriously
OMGDINOSAURS: i dont care about this match
NikolaeV: uh huh
NikolaeV: u mad?
OMGDINOSAURS: but you are obsessed with it
OMGDINOSAURS: no
OMGDINOSAURS: im not
baako: HE MAD
NikolaeV: HE MAD
OMGDINOSAURS: and you suck at tryignto troll me
baako: DIFFENTLY MAD
NikolaeV: and yet
NikolaeV: you're staying here
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO OBSESSES WITH DEATH
OMGDINOSAURS: you are attacking me for using obvious arguments...
NikolaeV: because you most definitly are
OMGDINOSAURS: and then you turn to "he mad:
NikolaeV: extremetly mad
baako: just slit your wrists now dude
SmashHammer: MUST STOP....
OMGDINOSAURS: hypocrit
SmashHammer: THE KILLING
NikolaeV: lol
NikolaeV: CRAWWLING I MY SKIN
baako: before i pull your pants down and pee in your burr
NikolaeV: IM GOING TO GO AND
baako: butt
NikolaeV: LISTEN TO SOME LINKIN PARK
OMGDINOSAURS: honestly you are the most typical internet kid ever
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO WILL BRING PEACE TO THE LEAGUE
OMGDINOSAURS: you are sad
NikolaeV: I AM SAD
baako: then and then
NikolaeV: SLITTING MY WIRSTS
OMGDINOSAURS: you are
baako: maybe
OMGDINOSAURS: yup
baako: i
OMGDINOSAURS: yup
baako: will
OMGDINOSAURS: yup
baako: give a reach around
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO WILL HEAR YOUR SINS NOW!!!!
baako: DEAR FATHER FORGIVE ME
baako: FOR I HAVE PEE'ED IN A BUTT
SmashHammer: OMGDINOSAYRS
baako: YES FATHER
baako: IT IS TRUE
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO MUST KILL YOU NOW
baako: yes
baako: but
SmashHammer: BARE YOUR THROAT
NikolaeV: oh man
NikolaeV: the butt hurt
baako: he liked it
SmashHammer: TIME TO DIE
NikolaeV: its so muc
NikolaeV: so much butthurt
NikolaeV: so why not take your
NikolaeV: apparently
NikolaeV: extremetly wide open ass
baako: lol
NikolaeV: the size of some spelunking cave
NikolaeV: and go get stomped by a comp
baako: omg how did ya know
NikolaeV: because with that uild
baako: it happened last night
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO THINKS THEY MAY HAVE GIVEN UP
NikolaeV: even comps will be causing a 20 minute gg
SmashHammer: SPEEDMO NEVER GIVES UP
 

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Nik, I hate to admit it but I got Kaitlyn that game by hitting random.... I'd never played her or read a guide on her or anything she just happened to be free and show up.

but yes their ultimate bravery crap is retarded.
 
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Nik, I hate to admit it but I got Kaitlyn that game by hitting random.... I'd never played her or read a guide on her or anything she just happened to be free and show up.

but yes their ultimate bravery crap is retarded.

Meh, we had most of the areas covered in terms of roles so it didn't really matter.
 

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What's people opinion on Caitlyn. I really liked the idea of her range, but playing some bot games I just wasn't feeling great about how she plays. First game I tried ash style rush infinity edge and next two games I tried rushing manamune and spaming her skills, which felt a little better gameplay wise, but I still don't think I'd do well vs humans with her. Is she any good? and if so how should you build her?
 

zebano

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What's people opinion on Caitlyn. I really liked the idea of her range, but playing some bot games I just wasn't feeling great about how she plays. First game I tried ash style rush infinity edge and next two games I tried rushing manamune and spaming her skills, which felt a little better gameplay wise, but I still don't think I'd do well vs humans with her. Is she any good? and if so how should you build her?

I've only played her the once (went a paltry 9/8/10 but we won). I went with ArPen reds, AS yellow (meh), Flat MR blue, HP quints and 21/0/9 (getting MP5 with that 9th point). I went
D. Blade > boots + D blade > pickaxe (was struggling for money) > BF Sword > Black Cleaver > Merc Treads > Madreds Bloodrazor > Starks.

The thing I found is that you can easily clear creep waves & harass with good 'q' aiming. Once you have some mana if you're pushing try to plan your escape and drop traps there when you can. When escaping run through your traps and use your self-knockback to go through walls (or just to get away). I was able to straight up take Jarvan early and at the end, but not from levels 5-16.
 

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She's a niche AD carry imo. If for whatever reason Corki or Ashe aren't going to work out Caitlyn is a good option. I would pick Ashe or Corki just about every time first though. About all she really has going for her is her range in the lanning and tower pushing stages of the game. He team fights leave a lot to be desired.
 

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had a good game with Firsttime today, he went Lee Sin 9-4 Rhoxie took Mao 4-5 and i took Garen 8-3. Had trouble at start but we pulled through hard.

Been having extreme luck with sivir (or fun) havent lost a game with her for a while. My new favorite build is zerks to blood razor, then banshees - warmogs - atmas - she ends up 225 DMG, 18&#37;crit (+12% from runes = 30%), 1.65AS, 135 Armor, ~120MR, ~ 3.8k health. Lasts long enough in team fights for her bounces to kill whole team.

best this week was 15-5-18 with 2 Quads in the game.
 

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good place to find guides:
http://www.mobafire.com/

custom skins (only you would be able to see it, but some are better than riot ones!):
http://leaguecraft.com/skins

There's really very few core items each champ should get imo, others are completely dependent on your play style, so don't go following the guides exactly even if they are rated high
 

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is vlad and karthus on sale or are they have been ~500 RP heroes? I got enough to buy either of them but i just wondering if i can get someone else when they comes on sale.
 

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They are on sale, probably not for long so if you want one you should snag them fast, they are normally 975.
 

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That said, I win when I Rammus and the only character that even gives me trouble is brand because you want to be front and center and his passive means he melts in 2 rotations you like you're squishy and he has enough range that even PB + flash + taunt isn't always enough to get near him and if it is the first rotation of his spells blows through 60% of my hp and his teammates can 'focus the tank' and kill me almost before my team is engaged.

I had no problem keeping Brand in check using the unholy power of Anivia.

I'm thinking about picking up Garen. Opinions between him and Trundle?
 

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is vlad and karthus on sale or are they have been ~500 RP heroes? I got enough to buy either of them but i just wondering if i can get someone else when they comes on sale.

They were on sale along with Eve, changed a few hours ago.
 

Kabob

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I had no problem keeping Brand in check using the unholy power of Anivia.

I'm thinking about picking up Garen. Opinions between him and Trundle?

Trundle is better over all, Garen is WAY more fun. Spin to win!
 

guy666

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What's people opinion on Caitlyn. I really liked the idea of her range, but playing some bot games I just wasn't feeling great about how she plays. First game I tried ash style rush infinity edge and next two games I tried rushing manamune and spaming her skills, which felt a little better gameplay wise, but I still don't think I'd do well vs humans with her. Is she any good? and if so how should you build her?

Caitlyn is a very middle of the pack hero, there is nothing she does especially well. There is no real reason to pick her when there are better AD ranged carries like Corki, Trist, and Ashe.

Just played a game where I stacked Bloodthristers on Udyr. Works pretty well with turtle stance, and solos Baron with ease. At one point it was me with less than 400 hp against a Sion and a Jarvan with full hp and I still managed to kill them both lol.

Btw my IGN is guy666 if anyone is wondering(probably not, but oh well).
 

AstroManLuca

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Jun 24, 2004
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Well, I can't win against easy bots. Can't even get a single kill against them. Against humans, there's no chance at all. At least against easy bots I usually know why I'm dying (chasing or something). Against humans, I'll be walking along one second and the next thing I know I can't move and there are three guys surrounding me and I'm dead.

I think the game is just too hard for me. There's no way I'm playing against other humans for a long time if I don't even stand a chance against easy computer opponents. The only way I can win is if there are four good players on my team to pick up the slack, but if that's the case, what's the point?