LCD vs DLP... wtf?

[Genx87]

How close to the set are people sitting they notice the viewing angles are bad? On a 50" set it is a good idea not to sit 3 feet from it at a 60 degree angle. I dont think an LCD or Plasma would look good at that distance either.

 

[Tlan]

i own the sony kds55A3000 and it does NOT HAVE BAD VIEWING ANGLES ! in fact it has better viewing angles then most lcds
the company that came close to the sony's quality was JVC and a certain model of SAMSUNG that had the LED Lamp
i can;'t remeber the model# but it has similar picture quality the color engines were slightly different and it came down to personal preference/opinion. The sony kds55a3000 viewing angles are so good you can be sitting way off on one side and still see the picture. you can't do this with DLPS i'm sorry. Also a PROfessionally calibrated sony will compete with the high priced pioneer kuros and lcds

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Tlan
i own the sony kds55A3000 and it does NOT HAVE BAD VIEWING ANGLES ! in fact it has better viewing angles then most lcds
the company that came close to the sony's quality was JVC and a certain model of SAMSUNG that had the LED Lamp
i can;'t remeber the model# but it has similar picture quality the color engines were slightly different and it came down to personal preference/opinion. The sony kds55a3000 viewing angles are so good you can be sitting way off on one side and still see the picture. you can't do this with DLPS i'm sorry. Also a PROfessionally calibrated sony will compete with the high priced pioneer kuros and lcds

My 5-year-old Samsung DLP begs to differ.

You can sit WAY to the side, and it still looks fine. How the hell much farther to the side do you need to be able to see the damn thing?

I think this "viewing angle" crap is just something meaningless for people to argue and compare over. Makes no difference in the real world.

Fact is, if I'm going to watch TV, I'm going to be pretty much in front of it, not to the side. So is everyone else who buys one.

 

[Christobevii3]

Who the hell watches tv from the side anyways? You can view mine at like a 45 degree angle, anything more than that is stupid.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B

Originally posted by: AliasX

Keep in mind I'm looking at a 60inch Mitsubishi. Some reviews have mentioned blurry image or poor color... but all of the unofficial reviews by people who have owned it say they loved it.

Mitusbishi DLP's are bottom of the barrel. People who love them rave about how cheap they are for the size but when compared to a high end set they look poor.

Just like there is a difference in $1K 47" LCD's to $2K 47" LCD's there are major differences in the quality of DLP's. The Samsung DLP's are the best out there and you can get a 61" for $1300 or under. One electronics store in Texas was advertising them for $999 and Crutchfield just blew out there inventory at $1299 deleivered and any purchase over $1000 from Samsung got you a $200 NFL Shop gift-card.

The new Mitsubishi Laser DLP's are pretty damn spectacular but at $4K+ for a 65" set is nnot for the budget conscious.

If you are happy with the picture quality and viewing angle of the Mitsubishi set then by all means buy it as you will be the one enjoying it.

Not to correct you, but Toshiba DLP's are at the very very bottom of the barrel. My three year old DLP is sitting in my kitchen facing the wall because its too expensive to fix its multitude of issues.

If I were to ever even consider going for DLP again (which I likely won't), LED all the way. 6 or so bulbs in 3 years is just disgusting to even think about.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Tlan
i own the sony kds55A3000 and it does NOT HAVE BAD VIEWING ANGLES ! in fact it has better viewing angles then most lcds
the company that came close to the sony's quality was JVC and a certain model of SAMSUNG that had the LED Lamp
i can;'t remeber the model# but it has similar picture quality the color engines were slightly different and it came down to personal preference/opinion. The sony kds55a3000 viewing angles are so good you can be sitting way off on one side and still see the picture. you can't do this with DLPS i'm sorry. Also a PROfessionally calibrated sony will compete with the high priced pioneer kuros and lcds

My 5-year-old Samsung DLP begs to differ.

You can sit WAY to the side, and it still looks fine. How the hell much farther to the side do you need to be able to see the damn thing?

I think this "viewing angle" crap is just something meaningless for people to argue and compare over. Makes no difference in the real world.

Fact is, if I'm going to watch TV, I'm going to be pretty much in front of it, not to the side. So is everyone else who buys one.

I agree, what angles are these people sitting at? I consider my current setup with my 67" to be pretty extreme due to the way our couch is designed. I sit on one end that has me at about a 45 degree angle and it looks fine. Any more and I wouldnt want to watch any TV due to the way I am looking at it.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Fmr12B

Originally posted by: AliasX

Keep in mind I'm looking at a 60inch Mitsubishi. Some reviews have mentioned blurry image or poor color... but all of the unofficial reviews by people who have owned it say they loved it.

Mitusbishi DLP's are bottom of the barrel. People who love them rave about how cheap they are for the size but when compared to a high end set they look poor.

Just like there is a difference in $1K 47" LCD's to $2K 47" LCD's there are major differences in the quality of DLP's. The Samsung DLP's are the best out there and you can get a 61" for $1300 or under. One electronics store in Texas was advertising them for $999 and Crutchfield just blew out there inventory at $1299 deleivered and any purchase over $1000 from Samsung got you a $200 NFL Shop gift-card.

The new Mitsubishi Laser DLP's are pretty damn spectacular but at $4K+ for a 65" set is nnot for the budget conscious.

If you are happy with the picture quality and viewing angle of the Mitsubishi set then by all means buy it as you will be the one enjoying it.

Not to correct you, but Toshiba DLP's are at the very very bottom of the barrel. My three year old DLP is sitting in my kitchen facing the wall because its too expensive to fix its multitude of issues.

If I were to ever even consider going for DLP again (which I likely won't), LED all the way. 6 or so bulbs in 3 years is just disgusting to even think about.

Fucking Toshiba messed up the DLP RPTV reputation for good.

 

[swbsam]

Here's what geeks do - if they can't afford the best option, the misconstrue what they can afford to be the best. I had a DLP, and now have an LCD and a plasma. Plasma is, by far, the best. But my DLP cost $500 for a 57" tv.

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
Who the hell watches tv from the side anyways? You can view mine at like a 45 degree angle, anything more than that is stupid.

I will be this weekend, as there will be 20+ people over to watch the Super Bowl. We can't fit 20 people in the 45° viewing cone.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
DLP has never been best.

My KDS-55A3000 SXRD begs to differ. Well, to be fair, it was a close second-best to the Kuro, but given how expensive those are, I'm not sure that even counts.

(not that its DLP) but man do I love my SXRD. Incredible TV. Its really a shame they stopped making them.

 

[gar655]

Yep DLP viewing angle sucks compared to Plasma and LCD. Plasma being the best.

It doesn't really matter if you compare them in the "store". All the sets are subject to the same conditions. DLP is good if you have the set at eye level anything above or below that gets dark and washed out very fast.

Horizontal viewing angle is not much better. If you're lucky enough to ALWAYS sit exactly straight in front of your TV then DLP is great. For my house that would mean a total of 3 seating positions.

Get a Plasma. Plasma is the best bang of the buck. 50" Panasonic 720p Plasma for $800. Best deal in HDTV period.

 

[spidey07]

If you don't have your display at eye level you're doing it wrong anyway.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: gar655

Get a Plasma. Plasma is the best bang of the buck. 50" Panasonic 720p Plasma for $800. Best deal in HDTV period.

Except 720p isn't real HDTV.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: gar655

Get a Plasma. Plasma is the best bang of the buck. 50" Panasonic 720p Plasma for $800. Best deal in HDTV period.

Except 720p isn't real HDTV.

of course it is.

 

[sportage]

Ok... a little education.
DLP is GREAT for overhead projectors and movie theaters.
BAD bad for rear projection.

Plasma is by far the best picture.
LCD is a close second.

If you're going DLP read projection, well just realize that is why they are the less costly in HD tv. And too... plasma and LCD have an average screen life of 30 years.
A DLP blub is like, what, 4000 hours???
I try and try to talk everyone I know out of going DLP rear projection just because they are big and cheap. And in the end they are not cheap. The bulbs?

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: sportage
Ok... a little education.
DLP is GREAT for overhead projectors and movie theaters.
BAD bad for rear projection.

Plasma is by far the best picture.
LCD is a close second.

If you're going DLP read projection, well just realize that is why they are the less costly in HD tv. And too... plasma and LCD have an average screen life of 30 years.
A DLP blub is like, what, 4000 hours???
I try and try to talk everyone I know out of going DLP rear projection just because they are big and cheap. And in the end they are not cheap. The bulbs?

Plasma and LCD panels have great spec life. Their failure rate is not much better than DLP RPTV bulbs. And the bad part about them is due to cost down, you can't really repair them.

For RPTV the lamp last a lot longer than FP since they do not need the same output level.

In the end, you have certain amount of money and you buy what you can depending on your taste.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: sportage
Ok... a little education.
DLP is GREAT for overhead projectors and movie theaters.
BAD bad for rear projection.

Plasma is by far the best picture.
LCD is a close second.

If you're going DLP read projection, well just realize that is why they are the less costly in HD tv. And too... plasma and LCD have an average screen life of 30 years.
A DLP blub is like, what, 4000 hours???
I try and try to talk everyone I know out of going DLP rear projection just because they are big and cheap. And in the end they are not cheap. The bulbs?

So much misinformation in this post I don't even know where to begin. I say again - I have owned no less than 10 HDTVs. Every person with a tiny 42-50 inch LCD comes to my home and is amazed by the 67" DLP, I had to replace my beloved CRT RPT with something that would give a HD experience at a 9-10 foot viewing distance.

Sure the 50" panny plasma upstairs is better quality wise but I don't sit 5 feet from it like I should. The 50" LCD in the bedroom is for convenience. And PS - DLP doesn't use bulbs anymore in rear projection.

Stop arguing technologies, it depends on the user. I know people like to defend their choices but when you've owned them all, across many model lines you can have an informed opinion.

 

[dud]

I want to personally thank everyone who has chimed in here (especially the OP) for posting here ... whether it was opinion or fact. I am in the same boat as the OP. Do I spend $1,500 to $2,000 for an LCD or $1,000 to $1,500 for a huge Samsung rear projection?

As a favor ... could anyone recommend a specific (current) Samsung rear-projection TV that I can currently buy? I saw that 6th Ave is selling the HL56A650 56" 1080p DLP HDTV for $1,000 with free shipping.

I agree with the previous poster that beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. You have to go see the picture and compare against other technologies before buying.

Thanks all ...

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: gar655

Get a Plasma. Plasma is the best bang of the buck. 50" Panasonic 720p Plasma for $800. Best deal in HDTV period.

Except 720p isn't real HDTV.

of course it is.

Ok, let me rephrase. You're wasting your money spending almost a grand on a TV that doesn't support 1080p. Happy?

 

[iRONic]

This:

Originally posted by: spidey07
It's not the technology - it's the user. Setup well a DLP will look very good, it's no plasma though.

And this:

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
If you could get the samsung LED dlps, get them. They use like 170 watts of power (vs 500watts on lcd's/plasmas on similar sizes) and the led lasts the life of the set and no color wheel. I love mine.

/thread

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: sportage
Ok... a little education.
DLP is GREAT for overhead projectors and movie theaters.
BAD bad for rear projection.

Plasma is by far the best picture.
LCD is a close second.

If you're going DLP read projection, well just realize that is why they are the less costly in HD tv. And too... plasma and LCD have an average screen life of 30 years.
A DLP blub is like, what, 4000 hours???
I try and try to talk everyone I know out of going DLP rear projection just because they are big and cheap. And in the end they are not cheap. The bulbs?

The new Sammy's and Mitsubishi arent using bulbs.

 

[Glavinsolo]

My own opinion - DLP and LCD make me have to move my head to create a sweet spot. LCD not as much. The panny plasmas kill color representation and always have a great viewing angle. I swore off plasma but they ironed out all my hate.

If you think about it. LCDs are the easiest to make and the most plentiful. You can name plasma and dlp manufacturers on one hand, you need an abacus to calculate all lcd makers.

 

[Dead3ye]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: gar655

Get a Plasma. Plasma is the best bang of the buck. 50" Panasonic 720p Plasma for $800. Best deal in HDTV period.

Except 720p isn't real HDTV.

of course it is.

Ok, let me rephrase. You're wasting your money spending almost a grand on a TV that doesn't support 1080p. Happy?

OK. How about a 50" 1080p Samsung Plasma for $1149?

 

[Glavinsolo]

Originally posted by: Dead3ye

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: gar655

Get a Plasma. Plasma is the best bang of the buck. 50" Panasonic 720p Plasma for $800. Best deal in HDTV period.

Except 720p isn't real HDTV.

of course it is.

Ok, let me rephrase. You're wasting your money spending almost a grand on a TV that doesn't support 1080p. Happy?

OK. How about a 50" 1080p Samsung Plasma for $1149?

How About a 61" LED DLP for 1299

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_3...g-HL61A750.html?tp=162

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Samsunsg 61" LED DLP is the best buy right now.

I can;t beleive they came out with this set 3-months after I bought my Sony 55a3000. If I could sell my Sony set for $800 I would upgrade to this Samsung!