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Jzero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

Why would you go to a place that allows smoking? I wouldn't go to a place that allows meal crapping.

Should be quoted for truth 100x over and then the thread should be locked.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

Why would you go to a place that allows smoking? I wouldn't go to a place that allows meal crapping.

Should be quoted for truth 100x over and then the thread should be locked.

LOL! I never knew I was so profound. :D
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

Why would you go to a place that allows smoking? I wouldn't go to a place that allows meal crapping.

More places allow smoking than don't. A severe reduction in your choice, or, put another way, your liberties due to your belief that smoking sucks donkey nads.

I visit places that have non-smoking sections. I know what it is like from both sides of the argument. I used to BE a smoker.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

Why would you go to a place that allows smoking? I wouldn't go to a place that allows meal crapping.

More places allow smoking than don't. A severe reduction in your choice, or, put another way, your liberties due to your belief that smoking sucks donkey nads.

I visit places that have non-smoking sections. I know what it is like from both sides of the argument. I used to BE a smoker.

So because the majority of businesses don't do business the way you like, you feel entitled to rob them of their private property rights merely to cater to your comfort?
 

broon

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I am a former smoker and still don't think this is right. A business owner should be able to decide if they want to allow this LEGAL activity in their establishment. If you don't like it, don't go there. Or start a non-smoking place of your own.
 

DivideBYZero

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May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

Why would you go to a place that allows smoking? I wouldn't go to a place that allows meal crapping.

More places allow smoking than don't. A severe reduction in your choice, or, put another way, your liberties due to your belief that smoking sucks donkey nads.

I visit places that have non-smoking sections. I know what it is like from both sides of the argument. I used to BE a smoker.

So because the majority of businesses don't do business the way you like, you feel entitled to rob them of their private property rights merely to cater to your comfort?

The sky is falling.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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There is a vast untapped market for smoke-free bars. Let's not put the cart before the horse anymore. Open smoke-free bars and choke out the ones that allow smoking....suddenly you don't need a law. Maybe a tax-break for non-smoking joints would be a decent compromise.

 

nakedfrog

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For all the people saying "This is great! Now I don't have to deal with smoke in my favorite restaurant!" this is not how you want it done. Not through legislation that deprives people of their rights.
Get a bunch of fellow rabid anti-smokers to talk to management and inform them you will no longer be frequenting their establishment as long as they allow smoking. Then they at least get to decide for themselves how to run their business.
 

Anonemous

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oh man wait till the the OP finds out about the smoking ban in BARS (up to the owner of the establishment) in CA... I wonder if he'll flip out over this and post a new thread...

 

mobobuff

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I was fine with segregated sections, never really bothered me. I don't smoke and I hate the smell of cigarette smoke (I also have asthma), but good restaraunts usually have good ventilation so that the non-smoking sections don't catch much smoke from the smoking section.
 

Gurck

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But the public is not forced to go into that persons establishment. The electively decide to do so and within that decision decide to be exposed to smoke. Someone bought that building just like you bought your house, and now they are being told what they can and can't do inside it.
There's still a lot of uncertainty about secondhand smoke, with a lot of smokers and 'good ole boy' types thinking it's safe, and that people who don't like the smell are making a big fuss about it to legitimize legislation against smoking - therefore they may unwittingly expose themselves to harm if given the choice. Also, what about an establishment's employees?
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

The sky is falling.

Your sig is looking deliciously ironic right now.

Why? Because I stand for something you don't believe in? I.E., a total smoking ban in dining establishments.

404 - Irony not found.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Gurck
But the public is not forced to go into that persons establishment. The electively decide to do so and within that decision decide to be exposed to smoke. Someone bought that building just like you bought your house, and now they are being told what they can and can't do inside it.
There's still a lot of uncertainty about secondhand smoke, with a lot of smokers and 'good ole boy' types thinking it's safe, and that people who don't like the smell are making a big fuss about it to legitimize legislation against smoking. Also, what about an establishment's employees?

Employment is a MUTUAL agreement. If you don't want to be exposed to smoke, don't work where it is allowed.

And, again, smoking is a legal activity. If you don't want to be exposed, don't enter private property that allows it.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
You know what the funny thing is? I just went to lunch with a girl yesterday, and even though she doesn't smoke, she always takes the smoking section.
Why?
In general, the smoking section is far less crowded and noisy. When we were first seated, we were the only people there for at least 20 minutes. I thought about it, and she's right. I'm a smoker, so naturally I always take the smoking section at lunch time, but I'd never really thought about the fact that there's always more people in non-smoking.

Smoking sections in restaurants work about as well as peeing sections in swimming pools.
Not when they are closed off and ventilated.

How many restaurants actually went through that trouble though? Very few that I've been in.
Up here in NY quite a few did. Then they got f'ed in the A when the state decided to ban smoking in all public places.

My gf's uncle is still paying for the loan he pulled to install a enclosed smoking section.

I don't see how banning smoking in someone's own property is in anyway constitutional. I'm amazed with what we let our nanny states get away with in this day and age.

<---Non-smoker
I'm not sure either.
Apparantly it's my responsibility to look out for everyone elses wellbeing.

Wait til they say you can't sell brats, burgers and french fries because they are artery cloggers.

I'm serious
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

The sky is falling.

Your sig is looking deliciously ironic right now.

Why? Because I stand for something you don't believe in? I.E., a total smoking ban in dining establishments.

404 - Irony not found.

No, because you fell for it - hook, line and sinker. Hey, weren't you the same guy who received extra merchandise from a vendor?

I don't think you understand what Hamilton was referring to.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Nik
Someone smoking in a car in front of your car is annoying and irritating? That sucks. Good thing you respect their right to do so. :thumbsup:


I was following this dude the other day who was smoking in his car and I could smell it because he had his sunroof open. The smell of smoke really bother me after quitting 1.5 years ago a 20 year smoking habit.


Ausm
 

DivideBYZero

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Storing food in an inapproriate manner is illegal for a Dining establishment and OMGWTFLIBERTIES! it's private property.

Laws CAN and DO apply for good reason even on private property.

Smokers can always set up private Dining clubs where everyone smokes themselves into a fetid ash-stained mess.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Gurck
But the public is not forced to go into that persons establishment. The electively decide to do so and within that decision decide to be exposed to smoke. Someone bought that building just like you bought your house, and now they are being told what they can and can't do inside it.
There's still a lot of uncertainty about secondhand smoke, with a lot of smokers and 'good ole boy' types thinking it's safe, and that people who don't like the smell are making a big fuss about it to legitimize legislation against smoking. Also, what about an establishment's employees?

Employment is a MUTUAL agreement. If you don't want to be exposed to smoke, don't work where it is allowed.

And, again, smoking is a legal activity. If you don't want to be exposed, don't enter private property that allows it.

No sh|t.

I think DRIVING VEHICLES should be illegal because I have a right to walk where ever the hell I want to, including right down the middle of the highway. OH NOES! CARS ARE GOING TO RUN OVER ME AND KILL ME!!

QUICK MAKE THEM ILLEGAL.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

The sky is falling.

Your sig is looking deliciously ironic right now.

Why? Because I stand for something you don't believe in? I.E., a total smoking ban in dining establishments.

404 - Irony not found.

No, because you fell for it - hook, line and sinker. Hey, weren't you the same guy who received extra merchandise from a vendor?

I don't think you understand what Hamilton was referring to.

Yes, I did recieve extra. Did you read the whole thread? Unlikely.

You are currently only standing for being an ass.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Smokers can always set up private Dining clubs where everyone smokes themselves into a fetid ash-stained mess.

Now you're getting it.
Smokers set up smoking-only joints.
Non-smokers set up non-smoking-only joints.
Everyone is happy, no government interaction required.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Storing food in an inapproriate manner is illegal for a Dining establishment and OMGWTFLIBERTIES! it's private property.

Laws CAN and DO apply for good reason even on private property.

Smokers can always set up private Dining clubs where everyone smokes themselves into a fetid ash-stained mess.

Food handling is hidden from the customer. Smoking is not. You have fair warning if an owner allows smoking and can make an informed decision.

Try again.