law bans smoking in ga restaurants

[Fritzo]

We have that here. I LOVE it. Best law ever

I always made the arguement that if someone was spewing poisonous cyanide gas, they would be arrested, yet somehow spewing cigarette smoke if perfectly legal. Makes no sense to me.

 

Originally posted by: Fritzo
We have that here. I LOVE it. Best law ever

I always made the arguement that if someone was spewing poisonous cyanide gas, they would be arrested, yet somehow spewing cigarette smoke if perfectly legal. Makes no sense to me.

By that line of logic all people driving cars should be arrested.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
We have that here. I LOVE it. Best law ever

I always made the arguement that if someone was spewing poisonous cyanide gas, they would be arrested, yet somehow spewing cigarette smoke if perfectly legal. Makes no sense to me.

Spewing car exhaust is perfectly legal.
D'oh, SampSon beat me to it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
We have that here. I LOVE it. Best law ever

I always made the arguement that if someone was spewing poisonous cyanide gas, they would be arrested, yet somehow spewing cigarette smoke if perfectly legal. Makes no sense to me.

If you want to spew anything you like on your private property it should be your right... so long as you give fair warning to any visitors and/or customers and do not negatively affect your neighbors.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
You know what the funny thing is? I just went to lunch with a girl yesterday, and even though she doesn't smoke, she always takes the smoking section.
Why?
In general, the smoking section is far less crowded and noisy. When we were first seated, we were the only people there for at least 20 minutes. I thought about it, and she's right. I'm a smoker, so naturally I always take the smoking section at lunch time, but I'd never really thought about the fact that there's always more people in non-smoking.

Smoking sections in restaurants work about as well as peeing sections in swimming pools.

Not when they are closed off and ventilated.

How many restaurants actually went through that trouble though? Very few that I've been in.

Up here in NY quite a few did. Then they got f'ed in the A when the state decided to ban smoking in all public places.

My gf's uncle is still paying for the loan he pulled to install a enclosed smoking section.

I don't see how banning smoking in someone's own property is in anyway constitutional. I'm amazed with what we let our nanny states get away with in this day and age.

<---Non-smoker

 

[DivideBYZero]

You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

 

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
You know what the funny thing is? I just went to lunch with a girl yesterday, and even though she doesn't smoke, she always takes the smoking section.
Why?
In general, the smoking section is far less crowded and noisy. When we were first seated, we were the only people there for at least 20 minutes. I thought about it, and she's right. I'm a smoker, so naturally I always take the smoking section at lunch time, but I'd never really thought about the fact that there's always more people in non-smoking.

Smoking sections in restaurants work about as well as peeing sections in swimming pools.

Not when they are closed off and ventilated.

How many restaurants actually went through that trouble though? Very few that I've been in.

Up here in NY quite a few did. Then they got f'ed in the A when the state decided to ban smoking in all public places.

My gf's uncle is still paying for the loan he pulled to install a enclosed smoking section.

I don't see how banning smoking in someone's own property is in anyway constitutional. I'm amazed with what we let our nanny states get away with in this day and age.

<---Non-smoker

I'm not sure either.
Apparantly it's my responsibility to look out for everyone elses wellbeing.

 

[Paulson]

I absolutely hate the smell of smoke, it's just absolutely horrible. I live with a roommate who smokes, and even though he doesn't (or hopefully doesn't) smoke in the apartment, I still have to smell his foul smelling smoked up clothes and himself.

It sucks, and you smokers don't even realize how bad it smells because you're so used to it it doesn't even phase you.

I'm glad they pass this stuff, if smoking only affected the person smoking, then hey, I'd be all for it, but since it irritates the piss out of others, they should have to find a common place to do the smelly deed, not make non smokers scramble to find a comfortable environment.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Paulson
I absolutely hate the smell of smoke, it's just absolutely horrible. I live with a roommate who smokes, and even though he doesn't (or hopefully doesn't) smoke in the apartment, I still have to smell his foul smelling smoked up clothes and himself.

It sucks, and you smokers don't even realize how bad it smells because you're so used to it it doesn't even phase you.

I'm glad they pass this stuff, if smoking only affected the person smoking, then hey, I'd be all for it, but since it irritates the piss out of others, they should have to find a common place to do the smelly deed, not make non smokers scramble to find a comfortable environment.

How would you feel if the government came on your private property and forced you to allow people to smoke?

And do not assume that everyone opposed to these laws are smokers.

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Fritzo
We have that here. I LOVE it. Best law ever

I always made the arguement that if someone was spewing poisonous cyanide gas, they would be arrested, yet somehow spewing cigarette smoke if perfectly legal. Makes no sense to me.

By that line of logic all people driving cars should be arrested.

I don't want them driving a car around the restaurant while I'm eating though. It's not that I don't understand the point that it's private property. I do. I'm just playing devils advocate here, mixing in some of my own bias because of my hatred for smoking.

At least I'm honest about why I support the ban.

 

[PHiuR]

i think the ban is great for restaurants, but they shouldnt not force bars to ban smoking...

yeah.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can smoke while I eat when I can crap on your meal.

Why would you go to a place that allows smoking? I wouldn't go to a place that allows meal crapping.

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Paulson
I absolutely hate the smell of smoke, it's just absolutely horrible. I live with a roommate who smokes, and even though he doesn't (or hopefully doesn't) smoke in the apartment, I still have to smell his foul smelling smoked up clothes and himself.

It sucks, and you smokers don't even realize how bad it smells because you're so used to it it doesn't even phase you.

I'm glad they pass this stuff, if smoking only affected the person smoking, then hey, I'd be all for it, but since it irritates the piss out of others, they should have to find a common place to do the smelly deed, not make non smokers scramble to find a comfortable environment.

How would you feel if the government came on your private property and forced you to allow people to smoke?

And do not assume that everyone opposed to these laws are smokers.

That is an excellent point, Amused. :beer:

 

[Turkey22]

Waiting for this to come to MI. I think it's crazy that they have let smokers slowly kill all around them for so long. It would be one thing if they werent harming others. To me it's very similar to drunk driving. Both can cause deaths to others although the person may have done it many times and been "safe". You can do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home or out where you aren't harming anyone (Darwin awards for causing your own death though), but when it becomes a matter of public safety someone needs to step in.

 

[nakedfrog]

Anyone who agrees with this ban is a fool at best.

 

Originally posted by: Paulson
I absolutely hate the smell of smoke, it's just absolutely horrible. I live with a roommate who smokes, and even though he doesn't (or hopefully doesn't) smoke in the apartment, I still have to smell his foul smelling smoked up clothes and himself.

It sucks, and you smokers don't even realize how bad it smells because you're so used to it it doesn't even phase you.

I'm glad they pass this stuff, if smoking only affected the person smoking, then hey, I'd be all for it, but since it irritates the piss out of others, they should have to find a common place to do the smelly deed, not make non smokers scramble to find a comfortable environment.

I've smoked for years, and I've also quit smoking totally for years. I know both ends of the deal.

Bottom line is that the govt. is curbing the rights of a group of people in order give rights to another group of people. It's not right no matter which way you cut it.

don't want them driving a car around the restaurant while I'm eating though. It's not that I don't understand the point that it's private property. I do. I'm just playing devils advocate here, mixing in some of my own bias because of my hatred for smoking.

At least I'm honest about why I support the ban.

You support the govt. controlling your life. Someday you will be sorry.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Turkey22
Waiting for this to come to MI. I think it's crazy that they have let smokers slowly kill all around them for so long. It would be one thing if they werent harming others. To me it's very similar to drunk driving. Both can cause deaths to others although the person may have done it many times and been "safe". You can do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home or out where you aren't harming anyone (Darwin awards for causing your own death though), but when it becomes a matter of public safety someone needs to step in.

Is the fact that businesses are PRIVATE PROPERTY lost on you?

You have fair warning if a business allows smoking and can make the choice to do business with them, or not. By passing this law, you are forcing private property owners to bend to your will and do business on your terms, not theirs.

 

[cerebusPu]

Originally posted by: armatron
http://fsnews.findlaw.com/articles/ap/o/632/05-09-2005/c8c5000aa5c5724b.html

I do not smoke. I find it absolutely DISGUSTING. Even someone smoking in a car in front of my car is annoying and irritating.


However, the fact that the gov't steps in to tell private business owners whether or not they can allow smoking on their property is wrong. While this law benefits me, I still think it's wrong.

ahh...its like this in several places already. NYC for one.

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: Turkey22
Waiting for this to come to MI. I think it's crazy that they have let smokers slowly kill all around them for so long. It would be one thing if they werent harming others. To me it's very similar to drunk driving. Both can cause deaths to others although the person may have done it many times and been "safe". You can do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home or out where you aren't harming anyone (Darwin awards for causing your own death though), but when it becomes a matter of public safety someone needs to step in.

But the public is not forced to go into that persons establishment. The electively decide to do so and within that decision decide to be exposed to smoke. Someone bought that building just like you bought your house, and now they are being told what they can and can't do inside it.

And don't forget, I like the ban. I just understand the situation.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
i think the ban is great for restaurants, but they shouldnt not force bars to ban smoking...

yeah.

If you read the article, you'll see that restaurants and bars that only allow people over the age of 18 are exempt from the ban.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Chunkee

Originally posted by: Nik
Someone smoking in a car in front of your car is annoying and irritating? That sucks. Good thing you respect their right to do so. :thumbsup:

i respect it, unless they have a child in there, and they throw the butts on the ground.

it is usually the smoker that has no respect for anyone or the filth they put on planet.

jC

:roll:

With the same logic, I can say that it's usually the treehugger that has no respect for anyone else's rights and assumes that all the smoking in all the world is actually a large enough effect to change earth's atmosphere.

Both are ignorant statements.

 

[purbeast0]

i think its great! i live in maryland and they banned smoking in bars in my county.

i dont smoke, and i dont like the smell of smoke, and i dont like leaving places smelling like smoke, and i have asthma.

maybe if i was a little different and enjoyed smoking, liked smelling like smoke when i leave places, and didnt have asthma, then i would care.

smokers need to take that crap elsewhere. smoking is so disgusting.

 

[Bulldog13]

OH NOIES TEH SMOKJE !

 

[Slvrtg277]

Would anyone feel differently about a ban if the voting public decided to ban it, whether it's confined to town/county, etc?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
i think its great! i live in maryland and they banned smoking in bars in my county.

i dont smoke, and i dont like the smell of smoke, and i dont like leaving places smelling like smoke, and i have asthma.

maybe if i was a little different and enjoyed smoking, liked smelling like smoke when i leave places, and didnt have asthma, then i would care.

smokers need to take that crap elsewhere. smoking is so disgusting.

Your comfort and auto-immune disorders are not the responsibility of other people. And they certainly do not warrant robbing private property owners of their rights to accommodate.