Latest Guild Wars 2 GPU Performance Data

[chimaxi83]

Also, thats why every reviewer hates on amd these days. The 7970 was owned by the 670 and 680 so they released an overclocked 'ghz edition' to go against it. what a joke. does nvidia release a 680 ghz edition ? Then when the 660ti comes out they want more performance out of the 7950 so they come out (again) with an overclocked version. what a joke.

[redacted]

Nice cherry pick of 2 games up there, even though the subject was GW2. You can admit your "argument" is defeated now. Nvidia cards clock up to what, 1200+, usually without even touching clocks. I know, I own 2. My 7970 at the same 1200 is mostly faster now though, except for my main game BF3. Nvidia is now beat, price and performance. Oops. All AMD really needs to do is hire Nvidia's driver team lol.

Dealing with problem posters is my job. In the meantime please don't make my life harder by attacking them in return.
-ViRGE

 

[The Alias]

ok agenda : buy new pc then buy guild wars 2 I've always wanted to try this game seeing as alot of my friends love it and the fact that it's well optimized makes me want to play it even more

 

[ViRGE]

I have just finished cleaning up this thread. Do not make me clean it up again or there will be consequences. And for the love of Mike, stop feeding the trolls.

-ViRGE

 

[Meekers]

GW2 had an unannounced 1 hour stress test tonight. Logged in for about 5 minutes to see what was going on. All my video settings were the same as a couple days ago when I was getting 80 fps...tonight I was getting around 40. This is with my i7 920 and TF3 7950.

Backwards is not the right direction 2 days before launch.

 

[RussianSensation]

Can some of you guys playing GW2 post some benchmarks? or at least an estimate of performance with your NV / AMD cards?

 

[blackened23]

Can some of you guys playing GW2 post some benchmarks? or at least an estimate of performance with your NV / AMD cards?

Can't until Saturday. Stress test is down and the game will not be back up until Saturday for pre-purchasers, and the 28th for everyone else who doesn't pre-purchase.

I'll post some stuff this Saturday, i'm sure i'll be playing it a ton

 

[blackened23]

GW2 had an unannounced 1 hour stress test tonight. Logged in for about 5 minutes to see what was going on. All my video settings were the same as a couple days ago when I was getting 80 fps...tonight I was getting around 40. This is with my i7 920 and TF3 7950.

Backwards is not the right direction 2 days before launch.

Whoa was not aware of this. Wish they would announce these things.

Kinda silly though since all characters are wiped on Saturday morning.

 

[Meekers]

They announced it on facebook a couple minutes before it started and only lasted 1 hour. They must have had some issue crop up that they needed to test right away. By the time I found out about it and updated the client I only got to log in for 5-10 minutes.

I am just hoping that the huge dip in performance that I saw will be gone this weekend.

 

[RiDE]

Yep... me and my GTX 295 are screwed. :'(

See you guys in two days.

 

[Grooveriding]

Can some of you guys playing GW2 post some benchmarks? or at least an estimate of performance with your NV / AMD cards?

It's all over the place. In some areas I am locked at 60 constantly, in others I was hitting no higher than 30fps... Those 30fps areas were always the WvWvW zones. SLI scaling was also non-existent. I would see 50%/50% generally across both cards, so I just disabled SLI and ran on one card.

I don't think these were driver issues though. The game is certainly not demanding graphically, but it's not a light weight like WoW is either. I think there are issues with the game engine causing performance issues.

 

[Arzachel]

GW2 had an unannounced 1 hour stress test tonight. Logged in for about 5 minutes to see what was going on. All my video settings were the same as a couple days ago when I was getting 80 fps...tonight I was getting around 40. This is with my i7 920 and TF3 7950.

Backwards is not the right direction 2 days before launch.

Afaik, both beta weekends and stress tests have broken performance before. It could be something as simple as far more aggressive logging.

We'll see how the game performs this Saturday

 

[ShintaiDK]

Can some of you guys playing GW2 post some benchmarks? or at least an estimate of performance with your NV / AMD cards?

My rig below, was getting 50-60FPS with everything maxed. But I also use vsync, so 60 is the limit. Res 1920*1200. 50FPS was mainly in Lions Arch, seems to be the most demanding place.

Using 301.42.

For those about the FPS measure:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Command_line_arguments

The -perf syntax works fine.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Would GW2 perform better on a C2Q @ 3.0, or a Thuban @ 3.51? Is it highly multi-threaded?

Edit: Currently rocking a single GTX460 1GB @ 715Mhz, playing at 1920x1200.

 

[Meekers]

According to a poster on another forum GW2 is highly threaded.

Let's not confuse thread with cores. Kernel threads can be run in parallel across a single core, at the same time. Core threads (that is all the kernel threads on a single core lumped into a general term "thread") are what I think everyone here is referring to.

GW2 runs between 45+ kernel threads, and release code utilizes 52 from what I can estimate (might be more, might be a few less if they further optimize how their kt's are scheduled).

What I can tell you is that HT does matter, at least for sound processing. GW2 seems to adore HT when it comes to audio processing, and you can bet for certain that HT enabled Intel CPUs are going to benefit from it, as will Bulldozer/Piledriver CPUs with their split ALU design.

So, as for core threads? GW2 uses 4-6 very well, 6-8 pretty well, 8-12 on a somewhat decent level, and 12+ poorly. Remember, you don't want your CPU above 80% most of the time, and you don't want individual core loads to exceed a 15% core to core balance quota over a time duration average. AKA, if one core has 90% load for 5 seconds, and then it goes to core 2 @ 50% and core 3 @ 40% for 5 seconds, leaving Core 1 alone, that's fine and dandy. If,however, the situation above suddenly changes to where Core 1 is loaded @ 80% for 40 minutes, Core 2 is loaded at 20% and Core 3 and 4 are loaded at 5%, something is wrong, and that's poor optimization.

 

[ShintaiDK]

GW2 is not highly threaded. It uses 2 threads.

So lets just put that to rest right away.

I havent been over 40% usage I think with GW2 running on my i5 3570K stock.

 

[SomeoneSimple]

GW2 is not highly threaded. It uses 2 threads.

You're wrong. I kept track of it in previous stresstest, and GW2.exe's CPU usage was above 80% on my Q6600(@3.2Ghz) in multiple scenario's; so there are clearly more then two threads.

However, once the main rendering thread clogs up (complex geometry, lots of players onscreen, etc), it'll slow everything down and cpu usage went down to ~40 percent.

IMHO it is hardly optimized; unless you have a overclocked i5 or i7 it won't be smooth on more then one occasion.
PvE is mostly fine, but WvW is utterly horrible. All alone, in the Eternal Battlegrounds I had ~30fps, not ideal, but OK'ish, but when there are a lot of people in the area (even if they're obscured by walls/objects), my framerate dips under 15fps and won't get any higher until I distanced myself from those people.

I'm using a GTX670 with the 304.79's.

 

[Meekers]

GW2 is not highly threaded. It uses 2 threads.

So lets just put that to rest right away.

I havent been over 40% usage I think with GW2 running on my i5 3570K stock.

You have either not tested it recently or have something else going on because GW2 definitely uses more than 2 threads. I have heard from pretty much everyone that has checked cpu usage recently that GW2 was making use of all of their threads. Unfortunately I did not check this myself but the evidence is pretty strong.

Here is a pic from the stress test 2 days ago using all 6 threads on a FX-6100

 

[imaheadcase]

I was getting around 60ish with GTX 580 with SLI enabled it was around 80ish fps on 2600k @4.8ghz

 

[ShintaiDK]

You have either not tested it recently or have something else going on because GW2 definitely uses more than 2 threads. I have heard from pretty much everyone that has checked cpu usage recently that GW2 was making use of all of their threads. Unfortunately I did not check this myself but the evidence is pretty strong.

Here is a pic from the stress test 2 days ago using all 6 threads on a FX-6100

I can show you 10 other taskmgr that shows 2 threads tops. Plus I played GW2 for quite a while now to put it mildly with over 200 hours playtime.

There is always alot of BS around MMO releases. I remember people claiming Swtor could use 16GB memory too!

And GW2 aint using 6 threads, applications do core jumping. Not to mention that the shared frontends of the FXs aint helping either there.

Other random people also supports the 2 thread case:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=320610&page=28

You also forgot to post the text of the pic you show:

I should mention that I was also testing out Nvidia's "Threaded Optimization" setting within the NVIDIA control panel. This yielded the results in the above picture posted. I tested it on and off through WvW zergs and sieges. When turning Threaded Optimization off, the usage of more than 2 threads dwindled. Threads beyond the 2nd one would run at 10-30% usage instead of when the setting was turned on.

 

[Meekers]

I would love to see a taskmgr from an August event that shows only 2 threads.

I am going through threads on several forums and it seems the August 21st stress test is where people went from 2 threads to using every available thread. In fact every single post about cpu usage I have found dated the 21st or later is showing this.

 

[Despoiler]

Rig in my sig gets a 55+ fps on auto detect. Dips to maybe 40-45 in cities. I would say 65 is the upper bounds in the wilderness. Tweaked the settings to shadows medium(doesn't affect quality just the range at which they are draw), reflection Terrain+Sky , LOD range medium, background blur off, and I pretty much stay pegged at 75fps (vsync on). Also, I've noticed in the last couple of stress tests that I can run vsync off and not get crazy texture corruption. They've definitely been working on the graphics rendering.

As far as threading all 4 of my cores are running at 40-45%.

 

[railven]

Madre de Dios, is it too late to pre-order? I totally forgot pre-orders got early access.

I'd rather play this game during the weekend then try to start on a weekday.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Madre de Dios, is it too late to pre-order? I totally forgot pre-orders got early access.

I'd rather play this game during the weekend then try to start on a weekday.

Dont think so, you can still make it:
https://buy.guildwars2.com/en/

 

[railven]

Dont think so, you can still make it:
https://buy.guildwars2.com/en/

Thanks bro, the page is blocked at work (so I couldn't confirm) but if you say it is, I'll be sending a text to the GF to secure us two copies.

 

[blackened23]

Madre de Dios, is it too late to pre-order? I totally forgot pre-orders got early access.

I'd rather play this game during the weekend then try to start on a weekday.

You want pre-purchase, not pre-order - there is a difference. Pre purchase gets early access, pre order doesn't.