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Latest CNN/ORC Poll: Trump crushing the field with 36%

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Spot on. Trump's version of right wing populism, which is more about nativism than anything else, is actually a long tradition in this country. He isn't new and he isn't fresh. I find it amusing that people think he brings something to the table because he is an "outsider" when he is nothing more than the latest in a very ugly American tradition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

Just move forward 150 years and replace "Irish Catholic" and "German" with "Mexican" and "Muslim." Wash, rinse, repeat.
Except he doesn't want to stop immigration or deport all legal americans. This is the typical lefty tripe, try to claim racism at every turn. Why? Because it is far easier than debating facts.
 
Except he doesn't want to stop immigration or deport all legal americans. This is the typical lefty tripe, try to claim racism at every turn. Why? Because it is far easier than debating facts.

Don't worry, I'm with you as far as the primaries go. I want him to win badly. I'm glad the media keeps cashing in on the controversy he generates because every single thing they report only helps him with right wing voters, and they know it. I for one think that with all the assistance he gets from the press, he can win in the primaries, though I worry about him eventually being overtaken by Rubio.
 
Except he doesn't want to stop immigration or deport all legal americans. This is the typical lefty tripe, try to claim racism at every turn. Why? Because it is far easier than debating facts.

The Know-Nothings didn't want to stop all immigration or deport legal Americans either, at least for the most part.

He never said a single thing about racism, he just noted (correctly) that the targets for nativist parties have shifted.
 
All you really need to know from the OP's article :

"Republican voters are most sharply divided by education. Among those GOP voters who hold college degrees, the race is a close contest between the top four contenders, with Cruz slightly in front at 22%, Carson and Rubio tied at 19% and Trump at 18%. Among those without college degrees, Trump holds a runaway lead: 46% support the businessman, compared with 12% for Cruz, 11% for Carson and just 8% for Rubio."
 
Except he doesn't want to stop immigration or deport all legal americans. This is the typical lefty tripe, try to claim racism at every turn. Why? Because it is far easier than debating facts.

Do you not have a Facebook account?
 
"Nativism" == Aryanism == Supremacism

"Nativism" just sounds nicer and is PC.

Nationalism is the main foundation of fascism.[152] The fascist view of a nation is of a single organic entity that binds people together by their ancestry, and is a natural unifying force of people.[153] Fascism seeks to solve economic, political, and social problems by achieving a millenarian national rebirth, exalting the nation or race above all else, and promoting cults of unity, strength, and purity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Nationalism
 
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Trump's agenda is actually pretty straightforward. He's a real estate guy with a long history of shady deals, especially of using the government to take people's property if he can't get it at the price he wants.
In the meantime, Cotton is once again pushing his unconstitutional "Liberty through Strength" Act in the Senate which would, among other things, redefine sedition and subversion as treason and implement attainder.
Trump wants to be President so he can have a front row seat at the biggest government land grab since the Indian wars.
 
Not worried about Trump. A nomination of Trump for the GOP candidate is a loss for the GOP at election time. No moderate will be swayed by his idiocy and lies. Nothing will tie the liberals closer and drum up votes than defeating the personification of right wing rage. He won't get the large scale conservative vote. My staunch republican relatives from Georgia say they will sit this one out if Trump is nominated, the first time ever they wouldn't have voted (some are in their 70's.)

There may be enough right wingers to get him nominated over the 10 others currently running, but there aren't enough to get him elected.
 
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Now U.S. really probably will have first president operating casinos and keep reaping money from the poor during his presidency.
 
The Know-Nothings didn't want to stop all immigration or deport legal Americans either, at least for the most part.

He never said a single thing about racism, he just noted (correctly) that the targets for nativist parties have shifted.
No, he has said we need to be a sovereign nation thst protects it's borders and is a land of laws.

Tell me, since every other country on the planet has more strict immigration laws, are they racist? What about mexico? Come there illegally and they deport your ass quickly. Same with australia, canada, all of Europe.

But hey, it is only whitey that can be racist.
 
Not worried about Trump. A nomination of Trump for the GOP candidate is a loss for the GOP at election time. No moderate will be swayed by his idiocy and lies. Nothing will tie the liberals closer and drum up votes than defeating the personification of right wing rage. He won't get the large scale conservative vote. My staunch republican relatives from Georgia say they will sit this one out if Trump is nominated, the first time ever they wouldn't have voted (some are in their 70's.)

There may be enough right wingers to get him nominated over the 10 others currently running, but there aren't enough to get him elected.

I wouldn't be so certain of that. If Trump got nominated all the conservatives doing their damnest to attack him would line up in lock step to vote for him. Fox News would have no choice but to sharply shift from constant attacks to lavish lip service. As much as my morbid curiosity would be intrigued by such a situation, I hope we don't get that far.
 
I wouldn't be so certain of that. If Trump got nominated all the conservatives doing their damnest to attack him would line up in lock step to vote for him. Fox News would have no choice but to sharply shift from constant attacks to lavish lip service. As much as my morbid curiosity would be intrigued by such a situation, I hope we don't get that far.

Without any moderate vote, he's screwed.
 
No, he has said we need to be a sovereign nation thst protects it's borders and is a land of laws.

Tell me, since every other country on the planet has more strict immigration laws, are they racist? What about mexico? Come there illegally and they deport your ass quickly. Same with australia, canada, all of Europe.

But hey, it is only whitey that can be racist.

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

But fuck all that right?
 
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

But fuck all that right?
Last I checked, that wasn't the law. We are a land of laws. We have property rights and legal precedent. We have solid grounding in English common law that sets us apart from most shithole countries.

Not once does that say we should not protect our laws, our borders, and our people above all others.

But you don't give a shit about suppressed wages or high young black unemoyment. Just give them more free shit so they will vote for your side.

Why teach a man to fish when you can give him one every day and make him dependent.

That is why you want more illegals.

Where is that poem written? On the statue of liberty. Right above Ellis Island. Want in this country, go through places like Ellis Island.
 
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Last I checked, that wasn't the law. We are a land of laws. We have property rights and legal precedent. We have solid grounding in English common law that sets us apart from most shithole countries.

Not once does that say we should not protect our laws, our borders, and our people above all others.

But you don't give a shit about suppressed wages or high young black unemoyment. Just give them more free shit so they will vote for your side.

Why teach a man to fish when you can give him one every day and make him dependent.

That is why you want more illegals.

you are truly a one trick pony, and it's not even that good of a trick.
please, specifically, point to a post where I stated I want more illegals, otherwise your claim is a lie, but then again you worship at the altar of trumplestiltskin, so I can see why you'd say that.
 
you are truly a one trick pony, and it's not even that good of a trick.
please, specifically, point to a post where I stated I want more illegals, otherwise your claim is a lie, but then again you worship at the altar of trumplestiltskin, so I can see why you'd say that.
Nice strawman. I never said to get rid of all immigrants, nor did trump, but you attack in the same manner. Oblique/tangential attacks to make somebody appear anti immigration or racist.

Pathetic agitprop from the left.
 
Last I checked, that wasn't the law. We are a land of laws. We have property rights and legal precedent. We have solid grounding in English common law that sets us apart from most shithole countries.

Not once does that say we should not protect our laws, our borders, and our people above all others.

But you don't give a shit about suppressed wages or high young black unemoyment. Just give them more free shit so they will vote for your side.

Why teach a man to fish when you can give him one every day and make him dependent.

That is why you want more illegals.

Where is that poem written? On the statue of liberty. Right above Ellis Island. Want in this country, go through places like Ellis Island.

Nice strawman. I never said to get rid of all immigrants, nor did trump, but you attack in the same manner. Oblique/tangential attacks to make somebody appear anti immigration or racist.

Pathetic agitprop from the left.

um, dingus, you said I want more illegals, I countered that by saying find one post of me actually saying that, and you spun it. I am calling you on your lie, not deportation. try to keep up.
 
Spot on. Trump's version of right wing populism, which is more about nativism than anything else, is actually a long tradition in this country. He isn't new and he isn't fresh. I find it amusing that people think he brings something to the table because he is an "outsider" when he is nothing more than the latest in a very ugly American tradition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

Just move forward 150 years and replace "Irish Catholic" and "German" with "Mexican" and "Muslim." Wash, rinse, repeat.

Exactly, he's 200% American like I was raised to be.
 
I wouldn't be so certain of that. If Trump got nominated all the conservatives doing their damnest to attack him would line up in lock step to vote for him. Fox News would have no choice but to sharply shift from constant attacks to lavish lip service. As much as my morbid curiosity would be intrigued by such a situation, I hope we don't get that far.

The problem with echo chambers is the people inside them think they have more people in there with them than they do.
 
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