Largest Israeli strike on Gaza just days after truce with Hamas ends

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Whoever was saying that UN Condemnations are the fault of the Soviet Bloc get a grip.
Most people in this forum probably were not alive to remember such a thing.
Lets stick with somewhat modern history here. And it is still a weaksauce excuse.
Oh noes it is all the fault of the godless commies decades ago that Fundamentalist Israel is a terrorist state surrounded by other extremist fundamentalist terrorist states. How dare the UN point it out.
Edit: I tried to go back and find where someone was speaking of this to me, but this thread is a mess that is raising my blood pressure. Not worth it.

I was the one that pointed it out.

The US and the Soviets were using proxies in the ME.

The Soviets were aligned with the Arabs and they were also still going after the Jews inside the USSR.

Look at all the resolutions against Israel and see who sponsored them.

Defenders of the Palestinians want to try and point out that Israel should honor the UN resolutions but completely ignore the politics of such.

And those of us that were around to actually see the coverage of the 4 main conflicts realize what happened and what the Arab and Soviet blocs were trumpeting.
Some also saw what the Palestinians/PLO did in the 80's once their sponsors realilzed that they has a set of pawns ripe for the mainupulation.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Well they can't, but I don't think the Hezbolla would ever get into direct military operation with Egypt. Things are done behind curtains, and it's gonna get real nasty once Mubarak goes down. The guy's 82 or something.

This generation of Arab leaders who fought Israel over and over actually rather respect Israel, unlike Hamas and the others.

Thank you. I hope freshgeardude will at least belive you and perhaps even rethink his mischaracterizations of me.

Could you also explain to him that the missiles Hamas has are too small and primitive to be effective against military targets? I don't think he understands that either.

And I agree sadly have to agree that your predictions seem likely, which is exactly why I belive Israel must stop their ongoing colonization of the West Bank, as only once that has been stopped is there any hope for ending this conflict.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Look at all the resolutions against Israel and see who sponsored them.

Again, look at the resolutions against Israel and note that the vast majorty of nations of the world voted for them.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Look at all the resolutions against Israel and see who sponsored them.

Again, look at the resolutions against Israel and note that the vast majorty of nations of the world voted for them.

whose right? whose wrong?

 

[Freshgeardude]

TheSnowman, I know that their missiles from Lebanon can not reach egypt.

I KNOWN, but have you ever seen a picture of the rockets they use?

they are very mobile, they can move the rockets, and can possibly attack them.

Lebanon was not always bad, its when Hezbollah came in is when stuff started bad. by the way, you get enough of a certain weapon, it can be stronger than military targets.


for example, now this isnt obviously viable, but if you shoot 10,000 missiles all at once at a base, in relatively the same spot, you will get penetration. there is no invisible immunity bubble like in independence day.


also, like I said, you can get 10,000 of a missile and it can be stronger than a nuke for example.

bombs are recorded as in strength, now you wont get the EMP effect like a nuke does, but you can still have that big of an explosion

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Look at all the resolutions against Israel and see who sponsored them.

Again, look at the resolutions against Israel and note that the vast majorty of nations of the world voted for them.

And the alignment of the nations along with the sponsorship of the resolutions.
At the time between the Arab/Muslim world and the Soviet bloc, over half the UN fell under that umbrella

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
I'm not a clueless troll. But label me however you wish. You opinion means shit to me as you mean even less than shit to me, so keep going, the world keeps spinning and hatred for isreal/jews will keep growing and hopefully one day a non-Arabic country will state what most of the world already feels and knows to be true.

So what is your final solution?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Oyeve
I'm not a clueless troll. But label me however you wish. You opinion means shit to me as you mean even less than shit to me, so keep going, the world keeps spinning and hatred for isreal/jews will keep growing and hopefully one day a non-Arabic country will state what most of the world already feels and knows to be true.

So what is your final solution?

Did you PM him to get his name and address? :shocked:

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Oyeve
I'm not a clueless troll. But label me however you wish. You opinion means shit to me as you mean even less than shit to me, so keep going, the world keeps spinning and hatred for isreal/jews will keep growing and hopefully one day a non-Arabic country will state what most of the world already feels and knows to be true.

So what is your final solution?

I think the Israelis are still pounding only Hamas facilities/launchers/vehicles. CNN had something about children and women, but c'mon... the vast majority are terrorists that have died. Don't you think I'd be happy if someone killed 300 Crips in the U.S.?

 

[Freshgeardude]

CNN has always been pro arab. they always show stuff arabs want, not the entire truth.

fox news on the other hand has always shown the entire truth

 

[keird]

I still think that there might be daycare at Hamas facilities. Tehy support teh people!

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
TheSnowman, I know that their missiles from Lebanon can not reach egypt.

I KNOWN, but have you ever seen a picture of the rockets they use?

they are very mobile, they can move the rockets, and can possibly attack them.

Where exactly are you suggesting Hezbollah would be able to move their rockets to attack Egypt with?

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Lebanon was not always bad, its when Hezbollah came in is when stuff started bad.

Hezbollah was formed in response to Isarel's occupation of Southern Lebanon.

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
by the way, you get enough of a certain weapon, it can be stronger than military targets.


for example, now this isnt obviously viable, but if you shoot 10,000 missiles all at once at a base, in relatively the same spot, you will get penetration. there is no invisible immunity bubble like in independence day.


also, like I said, you can get 10,000 of a missile and it can be stronger than a nuke for example.

Maybe you can, but I sure can't, and neither can Hezbollah, nor Hamas.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
by the way, you get enough of a certain weapon, it can be stronger than military targets.


for example, now this isnt obviously viable, but if you shoot 10,000 missiles all at once at a base, in relatively the same spot, you will get penetration. there is no invisible immunity bubble like in independence day.


also, like I said, you can get 10,000 of a missile and it can be stronger than a nuke for example.

Maybe you can, but I sure can't, and neither can Hezbollah, nor Hamas.

Yeah 'cause they don't have fuel!

 

[SamurAchzar]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
TheSnowman, I know that their missiles from Lebanon can not reach egypt.

I KNOWN, but have you ever seen a picture of the rockets they use?

they are very mobile, they can move the rockets, and can possibly attack them.

Where exactly are you suggesting Hezbollah would be able to move their rockets to attack Egypt with?

Israel?

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Lebanon was not always bad, its when Hezbollah came in is when stuff started bad.

Hezbollah was formed in response to Isarel's occupation of Southern Lebanon.

Isn't it about time Hezbollah is disbanded, then?

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
TheSnowman, I know that their missiles from Lebanon can not reach egypt.

I KNOWN, but have you ever seen a picture of the rockets they use?

they are very mobile, they can move the rockets, and can possibly attack them.

Where exactly are you suggesting Hezbollah would be able to move their rockets to attack Egypt with?

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Lebanon was not always bad, its when Hezbollah came in is when stuff started bad.

Hezbollah was formed in response to Isarel's occupation of Southern Lebanon.

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
by the way, you get enough of a certain weapon, it can be stronger than military targets.


for example, now this isnt obviously viable, but if you shoot 10,000 missiles all at once at a base, in relatively the same spot, you will get penetration. there is no invisible immunity bubble like in independence day.


also, like I said, you can get 10,000 of a missile and it can be stronger than a nuke for example.

Maybe you can, but I sure can't, and neither can Hezbollah, nor Hamas.

Look at mumbai. the arabs smuggled weapons in. I am sure they can move them to Saudi Arabia if they honestly wanted to.

I am not saying that they can get 10,000 missiles. neither me, neither you or them. I am just saying if a group gets enough of a weapon, they can destroy military targets

Edit: actually they can, they get money from Syria and Iran and Saudi Arabia, which have oil, so basically if they wanted to, they could get more firepower.

the thing is, Israel is smart, they have developed anti missile defenses, but only powerful ones that can really do a lot of damage like half a city type damage. the ones they are shooting at israel right now are not strong enough, because they do not fly high enough in the air

 

[keird]

http://news.webshots.com/photo...8296970103726530OBKYUvlol weaksauce

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Again, look at the resolutions against Israel and note that the vast majorty of nations of the world voted for them.

Sure, let's do. Here is a receont one:

The draft resolution on permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan over their natural resources (document A/62/415) was adopted by a recorded vote of 166 in favour to 7 against, with 6 abstentions, as follows:



In favour: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People?s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People?s Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.



Against: Australia, Canada, Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Palau, United States.



Abstain: Cameroon, Côte d?Ivoire, Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, Vanuatu.



Absent: Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau, Kiribati, Liberia, Madagascar, Papua New Guinea, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Somalia, Tuvalu.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2007/ga10683.doc.htm

Now, what argument are you trying to make?

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Again, look at the resolutions against Israel and note that the vast majorty of nations of the world voted for them.

Sure, let's do. Here is a receont one:

The draft resolution on permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan over their natural resources (document A/62/415) was adopted by a recorded vote of 166 in favour to 7 against, with 6 abstentions, as follows:



In favour: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People?s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People?s Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.



Against: Australia, Canada, Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Palau, United States.



Abstain: Cameroon, Côte d?Ivoire, Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, Vanuatu.



Absent: Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau, Kiribati, Liberia, Madagascar, Papua New Guinea, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Somalia, Tuvalu.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2007/ga10683.doc.htm

Now, what argument are you trying to make?

so? you know what the proves?

more that the world do not like jews and favor the arabs because they have the most important natural resource in the world, oil.

thats kinds why the US hasnt bombed the hell out of the arab countries, because they rely on them for oil

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Again, look at the resolutions against Israel and note that the vast majorty of nations of the world voted for them.

Sure, let's do. Here is a receont one:

The draft resolution on permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan over their natural resources (document A/62/415) was adopted by a recorded vote of 166 in favour to 7 against, with 6 abstentions, as follows:



In favour: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People?s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People?s Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.



Against: Australia, Canada, Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Palau, United States.



Abstain: Cameroon, Côte d?Ivoire, Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, Vanuatu.



Absent: Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau, Kiribati, Liberia, Madagascar, Papua New Guinea, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Somalia, Tuvalu.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2007/ga10683.doc.htm

Now, what argument are you trying to make?

The proof is in the pudding. Where are the Palastinians reinforcments?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Look from 1948 to 1980

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Look from 1948 to 1980

You mean those defeated countries that border Israel?

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Look from 1948 to 1980

You mean those defeated countries that border Israel?

yea seriously, is that what you want us to see?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Look from 1948 to 1980

You mean those defeated countries that border Israel?

And their backers and siblings. Familes stand together, right and wrong.
Then look at those in the Warsaw pact.
And then those that were dependant/obligate to the Soviets.

Sour grapes breed strange bedfellows.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Look from 1948 to 1980

You mean those defeated countries that border Israel?

And their backers and siblings. Familes stand together, right and wrong.
Then look at those in the Warsaw pact.
And then those that were dependant/obligate to the Soviets.

Sour grapes breed strange bedfellows.

I kinda like the Czechs and Hungarians. Good peeps.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Look from 1948 to 1980

You mean those defeated countries that border Israel?

And their backers and siblings. Familes stand together, right and wrong.
Then look at those in the Warsaw pact.
And then those that were dependant/obligate to the Soviets.

Sour grapes breed strange bedfellows.

I kinda like the Czechs and Hungarians. Good peeps.

Two of those that initially stood up against the Soviet influence - and were raped as a result.