Landover Baptist

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: HotChic
The "Wacko Sects" can vary by definition. I don't find Landover to be representative of the majority of fundamental Christians, as it represents itself, and as some people take it to be.

If you'll note, my comparison to Nazi propoganda had to do with the early stages of Nazi Germany, before there was violence against Jews. That didn't come immediately from nowhere. There had to be build-up to it, and "innocent" portrayals of Jews as outside the mainstream, much as Landover portrays Christian fundamentalists as wackos, was undoubtedly part of the build up.

Why is hatred towards any group, even fundamentalist "wackos", acceptable?

Eye for an eye, right?

Justice, but mercy triumphs over justice, neh? 😉

1) Not in the real world, honey.
2) You misspelled nef 😉

- M4H

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: HotChic
The "Wacko Sects" can vary by definition. I don't find Landover to be representative of the majority of fundamental Christians, as it represents itself, and as some people take it to be.

If you'll note, my comparison to Nazi propoganda had to do with the early stages of Nazi Germany, before there was violence against Jews. That didn't come immediately from nowhere. There had to be build-up to it, and "innocent" portrayals of Jews as outside the mainstream, much as Landover portrays Christian fundamentalists as wackos, was undoubtedly part of the build up.

Why is hatred towards any group, even fundamentalist "wackos", acceptable?

Hatred? Well is you call call Mockery hatred then fine. Christians Mock those who don't believe their nonsense all the time.

 

[Kadarin]

Landover doesn't make fun of Christianity as a whole. Instead, it makes fun of the fundamentalist attitude, which, in my mind, is completely acceptable and totally different from sites or people that advocate hatred towards an ethnic group (for example).

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Because it's popular and cool to bash Christians. It's very rare that you'll see anyone bashing Islam or Hinduism but it's ever-so-popular and P.C. to bash Christians and Jews. Look at it this way: why would Satan want to ridicule you and steer you away from following a false religion such as Islam or Hinduism if you're already going down the path to hell? It's those who are on the right path that are attacked and attempted to be "run off the road", if you will.
The above is just my opinion. If you have a problem with it, go eat some ice cream and you'll feel much better 🙂

We don't need to posit an active Satan in order to butch things. We do a perfectly good job of butching things all on our own without any active malevolent supernatural "help". IMO trying to use persecution as proof of being correct is grasping at straws to justify your position. I personally do not feel any need to "prove" that I am right in my religious convictions. It is enough for me to believe, I don't need others to believe that my beliefs are correct.

As far as the site goes, like water off a duck's back.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: HotChic
Justice, but mercy triumphs over justice, neh? 😉

1) Not in the real world, honey.

So we should just accept that? I think not.

ZV

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

yuo = teh lax0ring of teh reeding compr3h3nsi0n skillz

The Ten Commandments are stated in Exodus Chapter 20. I don't see any references to Exodus 20 in any of those passages.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: HotChic
Justice, but mercy triumphs over justice, neh? 😉

1) Not in the real world, honey.

So we should just accept that? I think not.

ZV

Just stating the truth, not my particular slant on things. In the ideal world, mercy and compassion would triumph over violence and hatred every time.

But unfortunately, we live in a world where the Backstreet Boys are multi-platinum.

- M4H

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

yuo = teh lax0ring of teh reeding compr3h3nsi0n skillz

The Ten Commandments are stated in Exodus Chapter 20. I don't see any refereneces to Exodus 20 in any of those passages.

You lack the ability to read, since all those clearly refer to the commandments.

Crypticburn

 

[luv2chill]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Because it's popular and cool to bash Christians. It's very rare that you'll see anyone bashing Islam or Hinduism but it's ever-so-popular and P.C. to bash Christians and Jews.

Unless your name is Flyermax2k3 and you like to refer to all middle-easterners as Towelheads. How quickly we forget, eh? Might want to check your eyes for logs.

I see Landover as purely satirical. I don't visit it regularly... hell I don't even find it all that funny. But I don't see a problem with its existence either. I think it is obviously a reaction to a lot of the BS that has come about from fundamentalist Christianity over the years.

Some smart guy said:

"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians, who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door, and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable."

If Christians disdain atheists/atheism, then they really should examine their own behavior for gaps between their espoused theories and theories in use. The hipocrisy I witness amongst Christians was enough to convince me that any guidance I seek in spiritual matters isn't going to come from other people.

The comparisons to Nazi Germany are way off-base. Perhaps if the Jews were in control of Europe at the time the Nazi propaganda was published it would be a valid comparison. But as it is, the Christian Right has a firm hold on the control of this country, and if you don't believe that you're not being honest with yourself. Though you may witness a lot of Christian bashing in this nerdy forum, ATOT is not representative of the opinions of this country.

I might humbly suggest the possibility that Jesus himself may have been able to see the humor behind the "shock tactics" of Landover Baptist. If Jesus himself lacks the ability to laugh at himself then we're all sunk.

l2c

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: HotChic
Justice, but mercy triumphs over justice, neh? 😉

1) Not in the real world, honey.

So we should just accept that? I think not.

ZV

Just stating the truth, not my particular slant on things. In the ideal world, mercy and compassion would triumph over violence and hatred every time.

But unfortunately, we live in a world where the Backstreet Boys are multi-platinum.

- M4H

My point was more that we should be working towards that world where mercy and compassion triumph. Will the world ever become as such? Nearly impossible, but if even one more person chooses mercy and compassion over hatred and violence and revenge then the world is improved.

ZV

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

yuo = teh lax0ring of teh reeding compr3h3nsi0n skillz

The Ten Commandments are stated in Exodus Chapter 20. I don't see any refereneces to Exodus 20 in any of those passages.

And you lack the ability to read as well. Since all those refer to the commandments.

Crypticburn

Let's try this again: the Ten Commandments are stated in Chapter 20 of the book of Exodus. Chapter 20 is the story of the Ten Commandments being given to Moses on Mt. Sinai by G-d. If the story of G-d giving Moses the Ten Commandments is not what you base the meaning of the Ten Commandments on (i.e. their original meaning) then your interpretation of the Ten Commandments is incorrect.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: luv2chill
I might humbly suggest the possibility that Jesus himself may have been able to see the humor behind the "shock tactics" of Landover Baptist. If Jesus himself lacks the ability to laugh at himself then we're all sunk.

l2c

I find it far more likely that He would have found it sad. But I think that you're correct to the extent of thinking that He would not be "angry".

ZV

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

yuo = teh lax0ring of teh reeding compr3h3nsi0n skillz

The Ten Commandments are stated in Exodus Chapter 20. I don't see any refereneces to Exodus 20 in any of those passages.

And you lack the ability to read as well. Since all those refer to the commandments.

Crypticburn

Let's try this again: the Ten Commandments are stated in Chapter 20 of the book of Exodus. Chapter 20 is the story of the Ten Commandments being given to Moses on Mt. Sinai by G-d. If the story of G-d giving Moses the Ten Commandments is not what you base the meaning of the Ten Commandments on (i.e. their original meaning) then your interpretation of the Ten Commandments is incorrect.

Let's try this again: the supplied quotes are from the bible, many from the following Chapters in the book of Exodus. These are the explanations of the punishments refering to breaking the Ten Commandments given to Moses from a magical burning bush on a mountain. The story of this magical bush giving commandments to Moses is further expanded by the punishments associated with breaking the commandments. If you do not understand this, then your reading comprehension skills need to be vastly improved.

Crypticburn

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: luv2chill

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Because it's popular and cool to bash Christians. It's very rare that you'll see anyone bashing Islam or Hinduism but it's ever-so-popular and P.C. to bash Christians and Jews.

Unless your name is Flyermax2k3 and you like to refer to all middle-easterners as Towelheads. How quickly we forget, eh? Might want to check your eyes for logs.

I see Landover as purely satirical. I don't visit it regularly... hell I don't even find it all that funny. But I don't see a problem with its existence either. I think it is obviously a reaction to a lot of the BS that has come about from fundamentalist Christianity over the years.

Some smart guy said:

"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians, who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door, and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable."

If Christians disdain atheists/atheism, then they really should examine their own behavior for gaps between their espoused theories and theories in use. The hipocrisy I witness amongst Christians was enough to convince me that any guidance I seek in spiritual matters isn't going to come from other people.

The comparisons to Nazi Germany are way off-base. Perhaps if the Jews were in control of Europe at the time the Nazi propaganda was published it would be a valid comparison. But as it is, the Christian Right has a firm hold on the control of this country, and if you don't believe that you're not being honest with yourself. Though you may witness a lot of Christian bashing in this nerdy forum, ATOT is not representative of the opinions of this country.

I might humbly suggest the possibility that Jesus himself may have been able to see the humor behind the "shock tactics" of Landover Baptist. If Jesus himself lacks the ability to laugh at himself then we're all sunk.

l2c

Nice selective memory there, luv2chill. How nice of you to remember an isolated incident which I admitted was wrong and apologized for multiple times. How forgiving of you.
As far as Jesus laughing at himself goes, why would you want your savior to laugh at his righteousness?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
As far as Jesus laughing at himself goes, why would you want your savior to laugh at his righteousness?

Because how could a Saviour without a sense of humour be truly loving?

ZV

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
My point was more that we should be working towards that world where mercy and compassion triumph. Will the world ever become as such? Nearly impossible, but if even one more person chooses mercy and compassion over hatred and violence and revenge then the world is improved.

ZV

And at the same time I find it slightly saddening that I know I will never contribute to that cause.

I think the first line of your sig says it best.

- M4H

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

yuo = teh lax0ring of teh reeding compr3h3nsi0n skillz

The Ten Commandments are stated in Exodus Chapter 20. I don't see any refereneces to Exodus 20 in any of those passages.

And you lack the ability to read as well. Since all those refer to the commandments.

Crypticburn

Let's try this again: the Ten Commandments are stated in Chapter 20 of the book of Exodus. Chapter 20 is the story of the Ten Commandments being given to Moses on Mt. Sinai by G-d. If the story of G-d giving Moses the Ten Commandments is not what you base the meaning of the Ten Commandments on (i.e. their original meaning) then your interpretation of the Ten Commandments is incorrect.

Did the lord ever say something about not being able to talk about whatever the fvck you want to talk about? No. Freedom of speech. In my opinion, people of a certain religion who criticize others for speaking their own mind on a religion, are worse than those who actually do it. I do not personally think it's funny when people make fun of religion and race, but I do not take offense to it. It drives me crazy to see someone of a religious culture to come out and say WTF MAN... WHY YOU PICKIN ON US CHRISTIANS. Well if you stopped preaching religion maybe it would seem like less of a cultural cancer.

Bill

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

I'm sorry sir, I am *not* the majority. I don't belong to the group of people labeled as "Christians". The modern day religion known as Christianity is apostate. Most "Christians" go to church on sunday and that's the extent of their Christianity.

Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

Please show me the Commandment which speaks of stoning or punishment of any kind. I'm referring to the Commandments spoken of in Exodus Chapter 20.

Commandment 1: Deuteronomy 17:1-5, 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20
Commandment 2: Deuteronomy 27:1-5
Commandment 3: Leviticus 24:16
Commandment 4: Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32
Commandment 5: Exodus 21:15-17
Commandment 6: "thou shall not kill"... I can't seem to find a clear enough quote
Commandment 7: Leviticus 20:10

Thanks!
Crypticburn

yuo = teh lax0ring of teh reeding compr3h3nsi0n skillz

The Ten Commandments are stated in Exodus Chapter 20. I don't see any refereneces to Exodus 20 in any of those passages.

And you lack the ability to read as well. Since all those refer to the commandments.

Crypticburn

Let's try this again: the Ten Commandments are stated in Chapter 20 of the book of Exodus. Chapter 20 is the story of the Ten Commandments being given to Moses on Mt. Sinai by G-d. If the story of G-d giving Moses the Ten Commandments is not what you base the meaning of the Ten Commandments on (i.e. their original meaning) then your interpretation of the Ten Commandments is incorrect.

Let's try this again: the supplied quotes are from the bible, many from the following Chapters in the book of Exodus. These are the explanations of the punishments refering to breaking the Ten Commandments given to Moses from a magical burning bush on a mountain. The story of this magical bush giving commandments to Moses is further expanded by the punishments associated with breaking the commandments. If you do not understand this, then your reading comprehension skills need to be vastly improved.

Crypticburn

What you are refering to is known as the Mosaic Law and is not in and of itself the Ten Commandments.
Once again, I ask you to show me where in the Ten Commandments themselves are outlined any punishments for violation of the Ten Commandments.
Just out of curiousity: why do you keep copying what I post and giving it the opposite meaning? Is this your only way of debating what I have to say, by mocking it?
Magical burning bush? Sorry, you've got your stories confused there... There was no burning bush on Mt. Sinai. Perhaps you are thinking of the burning bush on Mt. Horeb which Moses saw before leaving Egypt. The events of Mt. Sinai took place after Mt. Horeb.

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

What you are refering to is known as the Mosaic Law and is not in and of itself the Ten Commandments.
Once again, I ask you to show me where in the Ten Commandments themselves are outlined any punishments for violation of the Ten Commandments.
Just out of curiousity: why do you keep copying what I post and giving it the opposite meaning? Is this your only way of debating what I have to say, by mocking it?
Magical burning bush? Sorry, you've got your stories confused there... There was no burning bush on Mt. Sinai. Perhaps you are thinking of the burning bush on Mt. Horeb which Moses saw before leaving Egypt. The events of Mt. Sinai took place after Mt. Horeb.

Let's refer back to my original quote:

Originally posted by: Crypticburn
Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

I don't state that stoning for breaking the commandments is specifically mentioned in the commandments, do I? No. I state the punishment for breaking the first seven commandments are stoning/death. You're setting up a strawman argument (either intentionally, or unintentionally). And I apologize for forgetting my biblical stories, I should have said a "magical being that no one can verify Moses actually saw" instead of "magical burning bush".

Crypticburn

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

What you are refering to is known as the Mosaic Law and is not in and of itself the Ten Commandments.
Once again, I ask you to show me where in the Ten Commandments themselves are outlined any punishments for violation of the Ten Commandments.
Just out of curiousity: why do you keep copying what I post and giving it the opposite meaning? Is this your only way of debating what I have to say, by mocking it?
Magical burning bush? Sorry, you've got your stories confused there... There was no burning bush on Mt. Sinai. Perhaps you are thinking of the burning bush on Mt. Horeb which Moses saw before leaving Egypt. The events of Mt. Sinai took place after Mt. Horeb.

Let's refer back to my original quote:

Originally posted by: Crypticburn
Correct. It is an apostate... since modern society has moved on past ignorant beliefs such as stoning for "coveting thy neighbor's possessions" (also wife, but she was regarded as a possession back then), or the other first seven of the ten commandments.

Crypticburn

I don't state that stoning for breaking the commandments is specifically mentioned in the commandments, do I? No. I state the punishment for breaking the first seven commandments are stoning/death. You're setting up a strawman argument (either intentionally, or unintentionally).

Crypticburn

This is my point. Your original post leads one to believe that the Ten Commandments are not being followed because they are outdated and call for stoning. My point is simply that the Ten Commandments themselves do not call for any punishment. The Mosaic Law is loosely based on the Ten Commandments, but does not cite specific Commandments as a source for any kind of punishment.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
My point was more that we should be working towards that world where mercy and compassion triumph. Will the world ever become as such? Nearly impossible, but if even one more person chooses mercy and compassion over hatred and violence and revenge then the world is improved.

ZV

And at the same time I find it slightly saddening that I know I will never contribute to that cause.

I think the first line of your sig says it best.

- M4H

Never say never my friend. I have come to agree with many things that I never though I would.

ZV

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

This is my point. Your original post leads one to believe that the Ten Commandments are not being followed because they are outdated and call for stoning. My point is simply that the Ten Commandments themselves do not call for any punishment. The Mosaic Law is loosely based on the Ten Commandments, but does not cite specific Commandments as a source for any kind of punishment.

... So we're going to apply outside beliefs to pick and choose which parts of the bible we will follow? Why follow the bible then, since we have an outside set of beliefs to determine what to believe and what not to believe?

Crypticburn

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

This is my point. Your original post leads one to believe that the Ten Commandments are not being followed because they are outdated and call for stoning. My point is simply that the Ten Commandments themselves do not call for any punishment. The Mosaic Law is loosely based on the Ten Commandments, but does not cite specific Commandments as a source for any kind of punishment.

... So we're going to apply outside beliefs to pick and choose which parts of the bible we will follow? Why follow the bible then, since we have an outside set of beliefs to determine what to believe and what not to believe?

Crypticburn

Christ Fight!

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Crypticburn

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

This is my point. Your original post leads one to believe that the Ten Commandments are not being followed because they are outdated and call for stoning. My point is simply that the Ten Commandments themselves do not call for any punishment. The Mosaic Law is loosely based on the Ten Commandments, but does not cite specific Commandments as a source for any kind of punishment.

... So we're going to apply outside beliefs to pick and choose which parts of the bible we will follow? Why follow the bible then, since we have an outside set of beliefs to determine what to believe and what not to believe?

Crypticburn

I don't follow you... How do you arrive at that conclusion based on what I have said?