Ladies and gentlemen your new incoming members of the 116th Congress. Notice anyting??

[WelshBloke]

Wait let's clarify something here.

You're asking if I think ethnic minorities in the US lack interest in running for public office?

Yes. Thats what you were saying isnt it?

 

[Atreus21]

Who said anything about "try to avoid electing white men"?

You don't think it's fair to characterize the OP that way? Is he not saying that an excess of white men is bad, or at least worse than people of many colors?

I'm saying that the Republicans overwhelmingly elect white men tells me something about them and whose interests they are concerned with (it's not just that they favour white men, it's that they favour the interests of the rich and powerful, and that also translates to disproportionately white men, even aside from direct preferences).

I don't disagree with the bolded.

So a political party is no different from a sports team? Uh, OK.

Not the point. The point is that racial disparities don't necessarily imply racial inequity or foul-play. They might (and in my view commonly do) emerge as entirely natural results of people pursuing their interests.

 

[Atreus21]

And there it is.
The people of diversity were elected because of the diversity and had nothing to do with their competence and policies.

Didn't say that.

Whereas white Republican men weren't elected because of their skin color but rather because of their policies and competence.

Or that.

That's your claim and its a pretty stupid one.

My claim is that people should not concern themselves with how people look as much as what's in their heads.

 

[Atreus21]

Yes. Thats what you were saying isnt it?

It's possible, certainly. If I emigrated to Vietnam or Japan or Nigeria or any place where I was now clearly a minority, the thought of running for public office might certainly intimidate me, no matter my qualifications.

Even being in the ethnic majority it intimidates me. Who here has the resources alone to run for office, to say nothing of the temperament necessary to withstand the scrutiny and ugliness it involves?

 

[WelshBloke]

It's possible, certainly. If I emigrated to Vietnam or Japan or Nigeria or any place where I was now clearly a minority, the thought of running for public office might certainly intimidate me, no matter my qualifications.

Even being in the ethnic majority it intimidates me.

But you're talking about native citizens.
Being a woman isn't like being an immigrant!

Edit: I've got to be honest. I'm trying to take what you're saying at face value but it just seems that you are desperately trying to avoid the most obvious conclusion that the selection processes for the GOP have a bias to white men. I can't see how you could genuinely hold any other opinion really.

 

[ivwshane]

Didn't say that.



Or that.



My claim is that people should not concern themselves with how people look as much as what's in their heads.

Let me help you and make the point a little clearer for you; Republicans elected all black people and they are and have been proven to be grossly incompetent.

Now replace "black" with "white" and realize how dumb your claim is.

People voted for Democrats because they were competent, Democrats look like the people that elected them precisely because they cared about their policies and competence and not their looks, something you cannot say about Republicans.

 

[Atreus21]

But you're talking about native citizens.
Being a woman isn't like being an immigrant!

It's just an example. I thought you were referring to ethnic minorities.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's just an example. I thought you were referring to ethnic minorities.

I'm referring to the picture in the OP

 

[Atreus21]

Let me help you and make the point a little clearer for you; Republicans elected all black people and they are and have been proven to be grossly incompetent.

Now replace "black" with "white" and realize how dumb your claim is.

People voted for Democrats because they were competent, Democrats look like the people that elected them precisely because they cared about their policies and competence and not their looks, something you cannot say about Republicans.

Whatever the reasons people had for electing democrats or republicans, it's childish to draw conclusions on the basis of the skin color of those elected. It's childish and a waste of time to give such rapt attention to whether or not our group closely correlates in physical appearance with the larger population. They weren't elected for their skin color, or at least they shouldn't have been.

 

[dainthomas]

You dont think that there are enough non white middle class guys that are qualified? Thats why you think the numbers skew to that demographic?

His leader said Stacey Abrams is unqualified. I'm sure he had a very logical reason for saying that.

 

[ivwshane]

Whatever the reasons people had for electing democrats or republicans, it's childish to draw conclusions on the basis of the skin color of those elected. It's childish and a waste of time to give such rapt attention to whether or not our group closely correlates in physical appearance with the larger population. They weren't elected for their skin color, or at least they shouldn't have been.

Sure except that one party nominated, elected, and has the support of racist and not just one off instances either.

 

[WelshBloke]

it's childish to draw conclusions on the basis of the skin color of those elected.

Why? There's a reason why demographics is a thing.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So much concern. Where was the OP on 2016s presidential contestants and the demographics .

 

[WelshBloke]

So much concern. Where was the OP on 2016s presidential contestants and the demographics .

Eh? You had the democrats putting forward a woman (after previously having an African American guy) and the republicans putting forward another (technically) white old guy.

 

[96Firebird]

If there is a black women who is against abortion running against a white male who is pro-choice, which candidate would you vote for?

According to some here, political views should take a back seat to race and gender. That's sad.

 

[WelshBloke]

If there is a black women who is against abortion running against a white male who is pro-choice, which candidate would you vote for?

According to some here, political views should take a back seat to race and gender. That's sad.

Eh? You seem to have totally missed the point.

 

[Meghan54]

Eh? You seem to have totally missed the point.

And I assure you, it's not by accident.

 

[pmv]

It's just an example. I thought you were referring to ethnic minorities.

Now you are implying that all ethnic minorities are immigrants?

 

[sandorski]

Only White Males are Competent!


In a Job wherein a person is to represent some Constituents, what exactly is required for "Competence"?

 

[96Firebird]

Eh? You seem to have totally missed the point.

Stellar explanation!

 

[WelshBloke]

Stellar explanation!

I'm glad you found it helpful. Maybe you want to go read the OP and understand it now?

 

[Aikouka]

BTW I'm sure there's a strong correlation between the number of women in a state government and how restrictive abortion rights are. Alabama has 10 women or so in their 103 member house of representatives. No abortion centers in the state.

I'm pretty sure we have one, and I think I went by it a week or so ago. How do I know? Well, because there are almost always old people outside picketing with anti-abortion signs and harassing women that try to go there. It's pretty bad since the place is just a women's clinic, so they handle normal care and not just things related to abortions.

Although, from what I recall, Alabama has put some rules in place to try and shut these places down. There was something about hallway width or something like that? ...or maybe that was Texas? There was recently an amendment to the Alabama constitution that passed during midterms to declare that Alabama is a "Right to Life" state.

 

[Meghan54]

I'm pretty sure we have one, and I think I went by it a week or so ago. How do I know? Well, because there are almost always old people outside picketing with anti-abortion signs and harassing women that try to go there. It's pretty bad since the place is just a women's clinic, so they handle normal care and not just things related to abortions.

Although, from what I recall, Alabama has put some rules in place to try and shut these places down. There was something about hallway width or something like that? ...or maybe that was Texas? There was recently an amendment to the Alabama constitution that passed during midterms to declare that Alabama is a "Right to Life" state.

It was Texas with the clinics have to be set up the same as a hospital OR suite bull. Alabama's "Right to Life" is only an "unborn" right to life.....once born, a single shit is not given to that child's life whatsoever.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Eh? You had the democrats putting forward a woman (after previously having an African American guy) and the republicans putting forward another (technically) white old guy.

The Republican candidates were noticeably more diverse. You had a black, a woman, a Hispanic..

 

[Jhhnn]

The Republican candidates were noticeably more diverse. You had a black, a woman, a Hispanic..

So what? Who the GOP actually elects is what matters.