LA Clippers owner racist rant at girlfriend

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Miramonti

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this story has me really wondering if its a setup or not.

As for him saying shit in private i don't give a shit.

someone said he was discriminating on rental houses? that is cause to bitch.


but something said in private? i really don't give a flying fuck.

Just because she knew where to dig a hole to find a big pile of sh!t buried doesn't erase the fact there was a big stinky juicy rotting pile of sh!t there in the first place, lol.
 

MongGrel

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While I don't have a problem with Magic, many of the rich don't want to associate with him and that's because he has AIDS.

He didn't have a problem with all her pictures. Just the ones where she was looking to be more their girl than his.

I am sure a tightly wound guy like yourself would have gone batshit crazy if a photo of your girl ended up on ATOT with me even if nothing happened.
Tightly wound ?

I won't even ask.

:biggrin:

Tony Stewart maybe jumped my wife of 20 years while I wasn't there at the time.

Just teasing at this point I guess.

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Hugo Drax

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Not necessarily. There are nba bylaws made for situations like this where franchise leaders or owners become toxic to the brand. All it takes is for the other plantation owners to step up imo, and the nba can then force a liquidation or take over the franchise and/or force a buyout...i believe.

Except he has 1.8 billion and the rest of the plantation owners in the NBA have skeletons in the closet as well.

This will blow over by next year this will be something new for people to outrage over.
 

MetalMat

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Am I the only person thinking the average American doesn't know the difference between racism, bigotry and prejudice?

Based on those tapes, how could Sterling and Marge Schott both be racist in the same universe. Marge Schott was an openly virulent racist, enough to make Sterling look like a choirboy.

And those thinking the Clippers can walk off the job don't understand contract law either. And if the Clippers players throw their remaining games... Chicago Black Sox anyone?

Marge Schott is on another level compared to what Sterling said. If I remember she said something about liking Hitler and would rather work with trained monkeys than black people. I don't even think she ever apologized for the stuff.
 

Hugo Drax

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this story has me really wondering if its a setup or not.

As for him saying shit in private i don't give a shit.

someone said he was discriminating on rental houses? that is cause to bitch.


but something said in private? i really don't give a flying fuck.

Him and the estranged ex wife. But the NAACP did not seem to care about that and were about to give him a special award.

It was when the recordings got out all hell broke loose. But from what I read he had a history of racist behavior. It was fine for all parties involved as long as it was in the closet and donations were making their way.
 

MetalMat

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The NAACP said that it was an insignificant amount of money and they were going to return it. Somehow I highly doubt this "insignificant" amount of money ever leaves the NAACP. After all, Al Sharpton does need a new suit to accept his lifetime achievement award that was originally going to Sterljng.

Him and the estranged ex wife. But the NAACP did not seem to care about that and were about to give him a special award.

It was when the recordings got out all hell broke loose. But from what I read he had a history of racist behavior. It was fine for all parties involved as long as it was in the closet and donations were making their way.
 

edro

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Am I the only person thinking the average American doesn't know the difference between racism, bigotry and prejudice?

Based on those tapes, how could Sterling and Marge Schott both be racist in the same universe. Marge Schott was an openly virulent racist, enough to make Sterling look like a choirboy.
I agree.

He didn't think his girlfriend should be associating with black people in public.
I don't see how his statements were racist.
Prejudiced, yes... but not racist.
 

Markbnj

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I agree.

He didn't think his girlfriend should be associating with black people in public.
I don't see how his statements were racist.
Prejudiced, yes... but not racist.

I swear to God this stuff is gold. You guys draw some mighty funny lines. I guess you live in a world where wanting your girlfriend to stay away from "black people" in public is not racist. I'm not even sure what it is possible to say to that.
 

JulesMaximus

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errmmm....no

Normal people don't give a flying fark what some rich asshat said to his girlfriend in private. People with no lives who have to seek out things to rage against are terribly offended.

Says the guy with 41,000 posts...:whiste:

I'm not going to bother reading any more of this thread than I already have but I've found a post that pretty much sums it up for me so I'm just going to quote it.

I love how so many people on hear confuse the rights and liberties afforded to us by the constitution with the court of public opinion.

Yes, the recording is probably illegal (assuming she was in the US), and Sterling should be protected from criminal prosecution from the government regarding free speech and his own personal opinions.

However, the NBA is not the government. The players and media are not the government. You have the right to spew whatever bigoted, racist, ignorant nonsense that you want, but you don't have the right not to be made fun of, insulted, fired from a private organization, or to be left alone by the public after doing so.

Any criminal case against the mistress for the recording is separate and unrelated.

Agree 100% :thumbsup:

Racist fuckbag deserves whatever punishment the court of public opinion and the NBA hands out.
 
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JulesMaximus

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While I don't have a problem with Magic, many of the rich don't want to associate with him and that's because he has AIDS.

He didn't have a problem with all her pictures. Just the ones where she was looking to be more their girl than his.

I am sure a tightly wound guy like yourself would have gone batshit crazy if a photo of your girl ended up on ATOT with me even if nothing happened.

Did you really just compare yourself to Magic Johnson? :hmm::biggrin:

Ca we get a custom title for you? I think 'Resident Narcissist' would be most fitting.
 

Miramonti

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Mark Cuban chimes in.

Summary quotes, not necessarily in favor of booting him:
"I think there's a constitution for a reason, right? Because this is a very slippery slope," Cuban said before Game 4 of the Mavericks-San Antonio Spurs series. "What Donald said was wrong. It was abhorrent. There's no place for racism in the NBA, any business I'm associated with, and I don't want to be associated with people who have that position.

"But at the same time, that's a decision I make. I think you've got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think, as opposed to what they do. It's a very, very slippery slope.

"Again, there's no excuse for his positions. There's no excuse for what he said. There's no excuse for anybody to support racism. There's no place for it in our league, but there's a very, very, very slippery slope."
 

Dari

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this story has me really wondering if its a setup or not.

As for him saying shit in private i don't give a shit.

someone said he was discriminating on rental houses? that is cause to bitch.


but something said in private? i really don't give a flying fuck.

You must either be really dumb or naive to think that the words he spoke in those recordings exist in a vacuum. There have been posts in this very thread that shows that the man has a history of racism. It's all public information and he definitely deserves this.

Also, on another note, I find it funny that the most ardent racists are the same ones fucking the people they hate. Must be some psycho-sexual complex. The Klan member that shot up those Jewish centers had gay sex with a black male prostitute. We also know the story of Storm thrumond. I think Moonbeam was onto something with the self-hate...

Mark Cuban chimes in.

Summary quotes, not necessarily in favor of booting him:

Mark Cuban needs to read up on Sterling's history. It's not just the many things he's said over the decades but his actions as well.
 
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he should sell the team voluntarily while there is value there. When the big contracts are up, the stars will leave and nobody will want to come on board. It's going to be the 90s clippers for perpetuity.
 

Majcric

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A little beside the point, but I think this chick is dog ugly. That Jew should be able to buy a better piece of ass than that.
 

SP33Demon

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You must either be really dumb or naive to think that the words he spoke in those recordings exist in a vacuum. There have been posts in this very thread that shows that the man has a history of racism. It's all public information and he definitely deserves this.

Also, on another note, I find it funny that the most ardent racists are the same ones fucking the people they hate. Must be some psycho-sexual complex. The Klan member that shot up those Jewish centers had gay sex with a black male prostitute. We also know the story of Storm thrumond. I think Moonbeam was onto something with the self-hate...



Mark Cuban needs to read up on Sterling's history. It's not just the many things he's said over the decades but his actions as well.

He didn't say he hated all black people, but didn't like their "culture" and as a result didn't want the mistress associating with black people. He never said he hated all blacks in the video, comparing him to a KKK member = you turned your brain off and knee jerk regurgitated what MSM is pushing down our throats. Quite a big difference between a KKK member and Sterling. This shit is blown way out of proportion.
 

bradley

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Umm... hello?

Marge Schott: Former Reds owner's racist comments unleashed again with NBA owner Donald Sterling
http://www.wcpo.com/sports/baseball...nleashed-again-with-nba-owner-donald-sterling

CINCINNATI - Twenty years before Donald Sterling, there was Marge Schott.

The Reds owner used a racial slur when she called two of the black stars on her team, Eric Davis and Dave Parker, her "million dollar -----."

She resisted hiring blacks.

"I'd rather have a trained monkey working for me than -----," she said.

She also targeted gays, Jews and Japanese.

"Only fruits wear earrings," she said about players who wore diamonds in their ears.

She thought Hitler was "good in the beginning."

She kept a swastika armband in her Indian Hill mansion, saying it was a gift from a soldier to her husband after he saved his life in World War II.

"Sneaky god---- Jews are all alike," her marketing director, a Jew, said he heard her say.

Since last week, when TMZ released audio of Sterling, owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, making racist comments about blacks, the most embarrassing chapter in Reds history – and possibly, Cincinnati's – has bubbled back to the surface and leaked out of the sewer.

Despite her offensive comments, Davis, Parker and Barry Larkin, the team's black captain and future Hall of Famer, forgave Schott.

Why?

She didn't know any better, they said.
 

Perknose

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From a deposition re: a 2003 lawsuit:

A: When a girl seduces me and tells me all of these hot stories and dirty things and tells me how much she wants to suck on me and takes my shoes off and licks my feet and touches me. When I'm in a limousine and she takes [off] all her clothes. The limo driver said, "What is going on?" And she started sucking me on the way to Mr. Koon's house. And I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good.

Q: Sir, the question was "Is this your handwriting?"

:biggrin:
 

Perknose

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He didn't say he hated all black people, but didn't like their "culture" and as a result didn't want the mistress associating with black people. He never said he hated all blacks in the video, comparing him to a KKK member = you turned your brain off and knee jerk regurgitated what MSM is pushing down our throats. Quite a big difference between a KKK member and Sterling. This shit is blown way out of proportion.

I "love" how so many posters here wish to minimize the ugly reality of Donald Tokowitz's (his real last name) racism. The question is, "Why?"

Some choice quotes and vignettes:

In a 1983 incident, from prospective Clippers coaching candidate Rollie Massimino:

“Here’s this guy, and he has this blonde bimbo with him, they have a bottle of champagne, they’re tanked. And Don looks at me and he says, ‘I wanna know why you think you can coach these n*****s.’”

When a black tenant complained about water damage:

"Kandynce Jones' refrigerator dripped, her dishwasher was broken, and her apartment was always cold. Now it had flooded. Davenport reported what she saw to Sterling, and according to her testimony, he asked: 'Is she one of those black people that stink?' When Davenport told Sterling that Jones wanted to be reimbursed for the water damage and compensated for her ruined property, he replied: 'I am not going to do that. Just evict the b****.'"

That's because of all the blacks in this building, they smell, they're not clean.
(To a property supervisor, 2002, sworn testimony.)

And it's because of all of the Mexicans that just sit around and smoke and drink all day.
(Ibid.)

I don't like Mexican men because they smoke, drink and just hang around the house.
(Ibid.)
 

Perknose

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I love how so many people on hear confuse the rights and liberties afforded to us by the constitution with the court of public opinion.

[...]

However, the NBA is not the government. The players and media are not the government. You have the right to spew whatever bigoted, racist, ignorant nonsense that you want, but you don't have the right not to be made fun of, insulted, fired from a private organization, or to be left alone by the public after doing so.

Exactly!

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All the posters here who are so concerned about this reptile's rights while laboring mightily to minimize his ugly racism can go pound sand imho. :colbert:
 

SP33Demon

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I "love" how so many posters here wish to minimize the ugly reality of Donald Tokowitz's (his real last name) racism. The question is, "Why?"

Some choice quotes and vignettes:

I am going off the video evidence, not what's been alleged (without evidence) in the past. He never said in the video that he hated all blacks, but their culture. There's a big difference. We're all ready to anoint people who stereotype or generalize as KKK and Hitler and [insert mass genocide murderer and/or racist here] when the evidence doesn't support such idiocy. I'm sure you would agree that not liking a race's culture is a lot different than completely hating and wanting to lynch/murder people of [x] race. We are all ready to label people as extremists when the truth lies somewhere in between.
 

bradley

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There's some veiled anti-Semitism in this thread. Let's hope your employer isn't reading your ATOT rhetoric. Just sayin'. :)
 
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classy

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Mark Cuban chimes in.

Summary quotes, not necessarily in favor of booting him:

I agree with Mark Cuban. While a terrible human being, he owns that team and he has not broken any rules associated with being an owner. A fine of a couple hundred grand and he be banned for an entire year from attending the clippers games in person would be sufficient.
 

SP33Demon

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I agree with Mark Cuban. While a terrible human being, he owns that team and he has not broken any rules associated with being an owner. A fine of a couple hundred grand and he be banned for an entire year from attending the clippers games in person would be sufficient.

Yep, I agree with this as well.