LA Clippers owner racist rant at girlfriend

[SP33Demon]

You listened to the audio? I don't recall him saying "black culture" even once. I do recall him saying "black people" over and over.

I had _no_ idea when I posted this that there would be as many people here as there apparently are who think there is a substantive difference between racism and not wanting to be seen "with black people."

That's nuts. It's just, simply, fucking, nuts.

Watch the first two minutes, he says culture like 5 times when talking about his culture and how other cultures perceive others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YhT6d5fMhzI#t=65

Voluntary self segregation is something that's in the majority of human beings. Like the scientific study I quoted earlier, social cohesion and diversity cannot coexist at the same time and more studies are showing this phenomena. Take a look at major cities like NY and Philly, which have an Italian, Irish, Black, Jewish, and Asian areas. Look at your cafeteria. Who did you sit with in cafeteria while growing up in school, people like you or unlike you? Voluntary "racism" is everywhere but nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room. There is nothing "simply fucking nuts" about cultures not wanting to associate with other ones, it's been happening for millenia.

 

[blackdogdeek]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-nba-could-deliver-knockout-blow-to-donald-sterling-093958859.html

Several league officials – including owners and Board of Governors members – told Yahoo Sports they believe Silver has been studying the nuclear option on Sterling: a provision in the NBA's bylaws that would allow Silver to summon a vote of league owners to strip Sterling of his ownership. The NBA would run the Clippers until the team could be sold.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Fame and fortune aside. Alkemyst is probably better looking than Magic Johnson.

Not sure if Magic has the epic penis that someone like Scottie Pippen was known for. But outward looks, Alkemyst is/was pretty damn handsome. He has the all american boy looks.

Who said anything about looks?

 

[bradley]

If they manage to drive Sterling out of the NBA, Magic Johnson can pick this team up for cheap. Hmm... interesting motives and smart businessman.

I even read from a reliable source, he wears suits. Suits!

 

[SP33Demon]

Careful around your strawman argument, it might just catch fire. No one said he hates all blacks. Racism is a bit more complex than that for most racists, you know. He's a bigoted racist, period. Stop trying to parse things to give him a break he doesn't deserve.

He's a bigot and doesn't like black culture, so what? My point is that he does not hate blacks in the way that MSM is portraying. He is biased and bigoted, but not in a hateful way where he wants them all to die. If you followed my posts on the scientific study that social cohesion and diversity will never mix, then this should be quite obvious. He prefers social cohesion with his good ole boys club over diversity. While his behavior is more extreme, it's inherent in all of us as the evidence from the study proved (no fully integrated city exists in the world, anywhere, even when public policy promotes it).

I realize both. It doesn't prove a thing.

It proves that he doesn't "hate" blacks. At least not on the level of the KKK as some in this thread have insinuated.

Educate yourself. "Frazier Glenn Miller, a former KKK leader and anti-Semitic murderer, was once arrested with a black, cross-dressing hooker. According to psychology and history, it’s not that surprising."

^Speaking of a strawman... lol. That still doesn't explain why he says he loves Magic Johnson, he loves black people, and the fact that 90% of the checks he signs are for his black employees. Again, I highly doubt he hates blacks despite the fact that he doesn't like their "culture" and wishes his mistress would voluntarily self segregate with whites or latinos instead. Color me shocked (not).

You either don't understand the first thing about the bent psychology of racists or you are intentionally and willfully blinding yourself to the actions and words of this reprehensible pig.

Actually, I understand the dynamics of social cohesion vs diversity quite well and in fact am a minority myself with more than a few black friends, one of whom is a Clippers fan (and actually isn't calling for Sterling to sell the team). I've backed my beliefs with a scientific study that proves that cultural bias is actually pretty normal, but nobody wants to address it out of fear of not being PC. You being from Philly have seen such bias firsthand, and it's still that way now.

 

[SP33Demon]

If they manage to drive Sterling out of the NBA, Magic Johnson can pick this team up for cheap. Hmm... interesting motives and smart businessman.

I even read from a reliable source, he wears suits. Suits!

Well, to quote Sir Charles from yesterday - it's win win for Sterling because if he has to sell he is going to make a ton of money since he bought it for 15 mil and the Clips are now worth around 1 bil. Barkley said it's probably just better to fine him heavily and ban him from the games.

 

[Markbnj]

Again, I believe he poorly chose the words "black people" when he was referring to urban/hiphop/rap culture.

Done with this thread. You guys go on reading between the lines to give this asshole the benefit of the doubt, and put words in his mouth that as far as I know did not come from it. I don't know why you would do that, and I am not falling for the trap of trying to assign you motivations. I don't give a shit. I'm going to continue to think that when he said he didn't want his gold-digger twit to be seen with black people, what he actually meant was that he didn't want her to be seen with black people, not that he preferred she support the philharmonic instead of hip-hop. You guys are right about things having been like this for a long time. If you wonder why, you should look in a mirror.

 

[edro]

If you wonder why, you should look in a mirror.

Thanks for implying that anyone without a "burn the racist" opinion, is a racist.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I don't even understand what's going on in that conversation. In the first 3 minutes he goes from asking her why she had to take pictures with black people to claiming that he didn't know her ethnicity to asking her why she couldn't be seen with black people. Then he seems to take issue with her associating with black people again. It all makes even less sense coming from a guy who owns a basketball team. Maybe he's going senile or something.

 

[crashtestdummy]

"Ya it bothers me a lot that you want to promo... broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?"

"You associate with black people."

"I'm not you and you're not me. You're supposed to be a delicate white or a delicate Latina girl."

I really don't know how so many people in this thread want to defend this guy. Is he allowed to say these things? Sure! I'm a huge fan of free speech, especially for views I find disgusting. Are the rest of us allowed to judge him for said statements, especially in the context of his long history of other comments, lawsuits, and discrimination? You bet, and it's not the least bit ambiguous here.

 

[QueBert]

I don't even understand what's going on in that conversation. In the first 3 minutes he goes from asking her why she had to take pictures with black people to claiming that he didn't know her ethnicity to asking her why she couldn't be seen with black people. Then he seems to take issue with her associating with black people again. It all makes even less sense coming from a guy who owns a basketball team. Maybe he's going senile or something.

It's okay to exploit them and make a shit-ton of money off them. But actually be around them? Something tells me Sterling doesn't have many team functions where the entire team's over at his mansion partying. My guess is he isn't as racist as the media's making him out to be, but I also don't see him spending quality time with black people. Well except his mistress who apparently he was too stupid to ask what her ethnicity was. She clearly looks mixed to me, I'd think a bigot would at least be curious as to what the mixture was.

 

[crashtestdummy]

I don't even understand what's going on in that conversation. In the first 3 minutes he goes from asking her why she had to take pictures with black people to claiming that he didn't know her ethnicity to asking her why she couldn't be seen with black people. Then he seems to take issue with her associating with black people again. It all makes even less sense coming from a guy who owns a basketball team. Maybe he's going senile or something.

I think his view on it is that as an owner, it's a business relationship, and not one amongst equals. He's happy to associate with them as long as he's in a position of power over them. What she's doing by sleeping with him and then posting pictures or showing up to games with famous black people is put them all on an equal footing.

 

[zinfamous]

Man, I heard that on news, it almost seems like he is threatening NBA against taking the team away from him.

It's not surprising. Pro sports franchise owners operate little fiefdoms with massive tax breaks and essentially zero accountability. Even shit franchises tend to earn staggering profits. The Clippers are a historically profitable/underperforming club (granted, I still think ~80s-90s when it comes to NBA, because that is when the league died. If that has changed, well whatever. I can't imagine they have anywhere near the pull of the Lakers, anyway).

I imagine 100% of owners would echo Cuban's sentiment. Any threat to their sovereignty would set a very bad precedent for them.

 

[UncleWai]

Silver is going to sound heroic by letting the owners to vote, but he knows the owners won't set this precedant. So all he will doing is shift the load to the owners and hope to get a free pass.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Can the players union boycott signing players with the Clippers?

 

[crashtestdummy]

Can the players union boycott signing players with the Clippers?

My guess is, by their collective bargaining agreement, they can't. However, it would be an interesting play to force the NBA to file suit over the incident.

Similarly, let's say the Clippers players all decline to play tonight. They'd all be in violation of their contracts, and could potentially be docked pay and/or have their contracts voided. Would the NBA do that, though, knowing the backlash that would ensue?

 

[edro]

Silver is going to sound heroic by letting the owners to vote, but he knows the owners won't set this precedant. So all he will doing is shift the load to the owners and hope to get a free pass.

Right. If it goes to an owner's vote, nothing will happen.

All the bad press will likely kill him, like it did Joe Pa.

 

[eng2d2]

Watch the first two minutes, he says culture like 5 times when talking about his culture and how other cultures perceive others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YhT6d5fMhzI#t=65

Voluntary self segregation is something that's in the majority of human beings. Like the scientific study I quoted earlier, social cohesion and diversity cannot coexist at the same time and more studies are showing this phenomena. Take a look at major cities like NY and Philly, which have an Italian, Irish, Black, Jewish, and Asian areas. Look at your cafeteria. Who did you sit with in cafeteria while growing up in school, people like you or unlike you? Voluntary "racism" is everywhere but nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room. There is nothing "simply fucking nuts" about cultures not wanting to associate with other ones, it's been happening for millenia.

Have to agree with your voluntary segregation. When I went to college I stayed in the dorm. When I went to the cafeteria after grabbing my food I usually sit on the first table I see that is available. I noticed in the end of the semester that I was an odd man because I was sitting with either all black table, white table, asian table. Rarely you see it mix. I really had no idea but for me I just sit where there is a table available without noticing the skin or culture. I also thought that when you go to college its more mix but not so I noticed.

 

[momeNt]

Right. If it goes to an owner's vote, nothing will happen.

All the bad press will likely kill him, like it did Joe Pa.

aiding child rape is a burden he lived with for a long time, being outed maybe made it too much to handle. Especially when he was a demigod in Pennsylvania.

Nobody idolizes donald sterling, and being racist, which he has been taken to court over before, seems to me to be far less of a burden.

 

[SP33Demon]

Another 2013 study aside from the Michigan State one:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...sCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

Research shows that residents report high levels of disorder in places with greater concentrations of minorities even after controlling for objective indicators of crime or disorder. Less understood, however, are the mechanisms that explain this relationship. Drawing on a survey of nearly 10,000 residents nested within 297 neighborhoods across two cities, we use a multiple indicators–multiple causes model to examine the cues that lead individuals to distort the presence of minorities in neighborhoods. We then employ multilevel models to test whether these distortions influence perceptions of disorder. Furthermore, we assess whether living in a socially cohesive neighborhood mediates and/or moderates the relationship between “seeing” minorities and perceiving disorder. We find that when residents overestimate the proportion of minorities living in their neighborhood, perceptions of disorder are heightened. Yet social cohesion moderates and partially mediates this relationship: Residents living in socially cohesive neighborhoods not only report less disorder than those living in less cohesive communities, but also they “see” fewer minorities when compared with residents living in less socially cohesive neighborhoods.

“SEEING” MINORITIES AND PERCEPTIONS OF DISORDER: EXPLICATING THE MEDIATING AND MODERATING MECHANISMS OF SOCIAL COHESION†

REBECCA WICKES, JOHN R. HIPP, RENEE ZAHNOW and LORRAINE MAZEROLLE
Criminology
Volume 51, Issue 3, pages 519–560, August 2013

Sterling's behavior isn't surprising given these new studies into how minorities/diversity affect social cohesion. He is telling his mistress not to associate with minorities outside of his social circle's ethnic group because it would cause "disorder" and disrupt social cohesion of his good ole boys club. Feel free to disagree, but science is providing a nice sledgehammer to the face of the PC pro-integration crowd. Don't be surprised if entire regions of our country are self segregated racially (e.g. already US cities), socioeconomically (e.g. already rich/poor parts of town), and/or religiously (e.g. already Utah+Mormons) on a larger level in 50 years when hispanics have become the majority.

 

[Miramonti]

Silver just banned Sterling for life from living in any country that sells fried chicken.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sterling's behavior isn't surprising given these new studies into how minorities/diversity affect social cohesion. He is telling his mistress not to associate with minorities outside of his social circle's ethnic group because it would cause "disorder" and disrupt social cohesion of his good ole boys club. Feel free to disagree, but science is providing a nice sledgehammer to the face of the PC pro-integration crowd. Don't be surprised if entire regions of our country are self segregated racially (e.g. already US cities), socioeconomically (e.g. already rich/poor parts of town), and/or religiously (e.g. already Utah+Mormons) on a larger level in 50 years when hispanics have become the majority.

What fucking business is it of his? He doesn't own the woman, she's free to associate with people outside of his circle of bigots.

Sterling's behavior isn't surprising but it certainly is revolting.

 

[momeNt]

I gotta think that she won't be with anybody nearly as wealthy this next go around. Nobody is going to want their dirty laundry leaked to TMZ.

 

[schmuckley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69jMPMOxWE

He mad cuz she flauntin these in his face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UROAOwJeOyY

 

[Miramonti]

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