LA Clippers Owner Donald Sterling's Racist Rant Caught On Tape

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Retro Rob

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Sure, go ahead, fine him. But remember he's the one that's giving the players food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. So you'll need to fine him tens of millions for him to feel it, which the NBA doesn't have the authority to do.

Yes they can and as even mentioned, force him to sell the team. Perhaps if he were to say the same thing about gays, then you'd be outraged.
 

HomerJS

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divert divert divert.

Until last week this known racist was going to be given a major award by the NAACP, and was a democrat buddy. Until last week the left had no problems with a racist. Now because a recording they have a problem. As long as its a little hush hush, the dems are fine with racists.

First of all a lot of people didn't know about him.

The Clippers were off the radar until a few years ago.

I just heard today Elgin Baylor (retired NBA player) had a suit against him for racist behavior and it was settled out of court. He used his money to make these issues go away. He probably did make donation to NAACP groups but the other stuff was hushed.

Now if you want to refute this with other facts, go. Something other then Democrats are ok with their racist bit not the GOP.

I will note the consistent behavior with Dems. Sharpton was on MTP and called for the NBA to take immediate action against Sterling if tape is confirmed.

No rallies by Dems for Sterling, no militias, no armed protestors, no hero worship by MSNBC.
 

Nebor

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Of course the NBA has the authority to fine him. Where did you get the idea that they didn't?

The VP of my college fraternity when I was president is counsel for the NBA. The maximum fine amounts aren't even close to high enough to seriously wound a team owner (especially this one, well known at this point for showering millions of dollars worth of gifts on his mistress.) They can't exceed $10M.

Besides the fact that any sort of realistic view would tell you that it's in no one's best interest to truly punish him. The Clippers bring in a lot of money for the NBA. It's not like young, talented black men offered millions of dollars are going to start turning down the NBA on principle. And it's not like fans are going to stop watching on principle. I will grant that some players may be less willing to play for the Clippers after this, but it won't kill the team, and soon enough people will forget.
 

emperus

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The VP of my college fraternity when I was president is counsel for the NBA. The maximum fine amounts aren't even close to high enough to seriously wound a team owner (especially this one, well known at this point for showering millions of dollars worth of gifts on his mistress.) They can't exceed $10M.

Besides the fact that any sort of realistic view would tell you that it's in no one's best interest to truly punish him. The Clippers bring in a lot of money for the NBA. It's not like young, talented black men offered millions of dollars are going to start turning down the NBA on principle. And it's not like fans are going to stop watching on principle. I will grant that some players may be less willing to play for the Clippers after this, but it won't kill the team, and soon enough people will forget.

I hope there is a provision to force him to sell the team. The NBA is a legal cartel. There are probably a lot of potential buyers for the Clippers.
 
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Greenman

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So basically you're saying that if the NBA is offended by his remarks they shouldn't do business with him?

I don't know that they have a choice, I also wonder how an organization can be offended. Regardless, they can investigate until they're blue in the face, it doesn't matter because being an idiot isn't against the law. Expressing unpopular opinions isn't against the law. So aside from a great deal of hand wringing and tooth gnashing, there isn't anything to be done about people that have bad thoughts.
 

HomerJS

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The VP of my college fraternity when I was president is counsel for the NBA. The maximum fine amounts aren't even close to high enough to seriously wound a team owner (especially this one, well known at this point for showering millions of dollars worth of gifts on his mistress.) They can't exceed $10M.

Besides the fact that any sort of realistic view would tell you that it's in no one's best interest to truly punish him. The Clippers bring in a lot of money for the NBA. It's not like young, talented black men offered millions of dollars are going to start turning down the NBA on principle. And it's not like fans are going to stop watching on principle. I will grant that some players may be less willing to play for the Clippers after this, but it won't kill the team, and soon enough people will forget.

I think NBA ruling is due Tues. Assuming guilt, if action is just fine that won't be enough. Players will take further action and this will become a bigger national story. No way in hell the NBA wants that.
 

Greenman

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Yes they can and as even mentioned, force him to sell the team. Perhaps if he were to say the same thing about gays, then you'd be outraged.

I had no idea they could do something like that. Is this part of an agreement the owner signs when he buys a team? Do you know if there is something similar for football or baseball?
Sorry for all the questions, I know pretty much nothing about pro sports.
 

norseamd

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I had no idea they could do something like that. Is this part of an agreement the owner signs when he buys a team? Do you know if there is something similar for football or baseball?
Sorry for all the questions, I know pretty much nothing about pro sports.

well they could always kick him out of the nba

then he would have a worthless team
 

shira

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I had no idea they could do something like that. Is this part of an agreement the owner signs when he buys a team? Do you know if there is something similar for football or baseball?
Sorry for all the questions, I know pretty much nothing about pro sports.
A column in yesterday's Washington Post sports section (sorry, I can't find it online) stated that the league could force Sterling to sell the team. So I assume there must be a statement to that effect in the purchase agreement Sterling signed when he bought the team in 1981.

On the other hand, even if the league does have that power, they might settle for a hefty fine. Just as the league doesn't typically "fire" athletes for a first offense.
 

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not surprised at all that don was held in such good steed by his fellow regressives. well, until he got caught anyway. leftists are masters at keeping the black man down on the liberal plantation, they've been honing this particular social skill long before anyone here was born. its' culmination came, not with the voting rights act, as that was supported by republicans not liberals, but when leftists realized that they could distort a well meaning program to benefit their own collectivist and racist philosophy. hence you have the following...

“I’ll have those ni--ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ

chickens comin home to roost :biggrin:
 

HomerJS

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Compare that to 2012 the defecto GOP leader Rush Limbaugh calls Michelle Obama uppity silence among Republicans. This guys true colors come out he gets held in equal rebuke as the Clivster

Nice try at a totally false equivalence
 

shira

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not surprised at all that don was held in such good steed by his fellow regressives. well, until he got caught anyway. leftists are masters at keeping the black man down on the liberal plantation, they've been honing this particular social skill long before anyone here was born. its' culmination came, not with the voting rights act, as that was supported by republicans not liberals, but when leftists realized that they could distort a well meaning program to benefit their own collectivist and racist philosophy. hence you have the following...

“I’ll have those ni--ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ

chickens comin home to roost :biggrin:

Please explain to us how it is that a rich Democrat who turns out to be a racist asshole, and who everyone is slamming and absolutely no one is defending - least of all anyone on the left, is a "chicken coming home to roost?"
 

cubby1223

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I had no idea they could do something like that. Is this part of an agreement the owner signs when he buys a team? Do you know if there is something similar for football or baseball?
Sorry for all the questions, I know pretty much nothing about pro sports.

MLB couldn't force Marge Schott to sell the Reds, don't think the NBA can force this sale. But they can certainly cut off the owner from involvement with the team.
 

row

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Please explain to us how it...is a "chicken coming home to roost?"

the czech's have a word for it "litost". it means a state of torment created by the sudden sight of one's own misery.

you see, donald represents yourselves and your party, hence many "hoodwinked and bamboozled" followers of leftist ideology are now beginning to see the truth behind the lie.

hope that helps!
 

cubby1223

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Of course it does.

Maybe his lawyers' offices can be eminently domained, too.

Except why would you want to use eminent domain?

If you root for eminent domain to be used here, then you are simultaneously allowing all the eminent domain abuses that go on elsewhere.

Even if you're just trying to make a joke... don't... just don't.
 
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OCGuy

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This dinosaur needs to sell the team and get hit by a meteor.

Also, in a sea of trolls, CanOWorms stands out. That should tell you something.
 

Oldgamer

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Yes they can and as even mentioned, force him to sell the team. Perhaps if he were to say the same thing about gays, then you'd be outraged.


They said that other owners may not want to be tarnished by this guy, so they might just force him to sell.

Btw, the clippers owner has not yet denied that was him on that recording, he has remained silent on it this whole time.
 

emperus

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They said that other owners may not want to be tarnished by this guy, so they might just force him to sell.

Btw, the clippers owner has not yet denied that was him on that recording, he has remained silent on it this whole time.

He did put this out

“We have heard the tape on TMZ. We do not know if it is legitimate or it has been altered. We do know that the woman on the tape..who we believe released it to TMZ, is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family, alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would ‘get even.
Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings. It is the antithesis of who he is, what he believes and how he has lived his life.
He feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributed to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them.”​
So Mr. Sterling does not know if the take is legitimate or if it has been altered. I guess that speaks for itself.​
 

Londo_Jowo

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I noticed on the local news this morning that Magic Johnson wants to buy the team. Isn't it odd how the supposed racist rant was over the mistress/girlfriend being friends with Magic Johnson/bringing him to games.

Could this be an elaborate scheme to allow Magic Johnson to buy the team?
 

fskimospy

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The VP of my college fraternity when I was president is counsel for the NBA. The maximum fine amounts aren't even close to high enough to seriously wound a team owner (especially this one, well known at this point for showering millions of dollars worth of gifts on his mistress.) They can't exceed $10M.

Interesting, do you know where the rules that cover this are?

Besides the fact that any sort of realistic view would tell you that it's in no one's best interest to truly punish him. The Clippers bring in a lot of money for the NBA. It's not like young, talented black men offered millions of dollars are going to start turning down the NBA on principle. And it's not like fans are going to stop watching on principle. I will grant that some players may be less willing to play for the Clippers after this, but it won't kill the team, and soon enough people will forget.

I can see plenty of situations where it would be in the NBA's best interest to truly punish him. It seems likely that the league can find other willing buyers for the team, so perhaps a forced sale is in order. My guess is that the owners won't want to set that sort of precedent for themselves, but there's certainly a case to be made it's in the league's best interests to do so.