Kristin Cavallari labeled as "communist" for not vaccinating kids (video)

[desy]

A large study has linked several common anti-anxiety drugs and sleeping pills to an increased risk of death, although it’s not certain the drugs were the cause.

 

[werepossum]

I haven't specifically researched that, but it's not surprising if that's true.

Women that get vaccinated before birth would be the easiest thing to say, but what I'm trying to say is that it's mostly the nutritional deficiencies that cause problems with children and while as I said I haven't researched for Autism specifically, it's still nothing new that if the woman has iodine deficiency with a lot of bromide and fluoride the born children will have noumerous problems, can't even list them all because iodine is so important for many things.

I never said vaccines are the only cause, but that's probably partly also because Autism is being mislabeled and misdiagnosed on a continual basis getting to ridicolous levels in recent years, all kinds of mental puberty issues, similar mental patterns, all thrown into the same bin.

In the end, the root cause is nutritional deficiency and heavy-metal poisoning, there was also a link in diet, I do not know in detil as I just heard one news report about it, and basically the kid fixed his autism with a different diet, i could find that news report.

I actually went on some chatrooms about autism and I met a guy who says he's "normal" and he's been taking all kinds of drugs for like 16 years since the age of 9, and still didn't fix his "autism" and doesn't believe the drugs are worthless.

He seemed well spoken, so I can tell you he definitely did not had a real autism which is a condition you behave like a zombie let alone make coherent sentances and type as fast as I can.

And look, an article from today, just hours ago http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/27/anti-anxiety-drugs-tied-to-higher-mortality/

I wasn't actually directing that at you. Incidentally I do agree those drugs are horrific. As far as vaccines, my sister-in-law worked at a Michael Dunn Center whose residents were mostly young people whose brains had been fried by very high fevers after receiving vaccinations. That's a pretty immediate and horrific result and they can't even be sure the vaccinations were related to those (could have been hitchhiking skin or airborne bacteria or even coincidence, it happens so rarely) so I don't see how autism could possibly be definitively linked to vaccinations. However, we can say pretty definitively that there is no strong correlation or the autism rates of non-vaccinating groups like the Amish or some illegal immigrants would show a difference big enough to dwarf other factors.

A large study has linked several common anti-anxiety drugs and sleeping pills to an increased risk of death, although it’s not certain the drugs were the cause.

LOL The only certainty in science is global warming. The conclusions of every other study are merely possibilities coupled with a definite need for more research.

 

[Jodell88]

Isn't there a measles outbreak in California? Maybe she'll experience what could happen when you don't vaccinate your children. :|

 

[Iron Woode]

Isn't there a measles outbreak in California? Maybe she'll experience what could happen when you don't vaccinate your children. :|

there are measles outbreaks all over the place due to ignorant doucenozzles not vaccinating their kids. Mark my words some will die because of this.

 

[LegendKiller]

I'll just go ahead and leave this right here....



http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...npr&utm_campaign=nprnews&utm_content=03032014

/thread.

 

[Stewox]

LOL The only certainty in science is global warming.

.... emm, er, e, hm, ho, ehm, ... that's actually the biggest hoax out there.

(not going to talk now, going to sleep, later)

 

[surfsatwerk]

Women that get vaccinated before birth would be the easiest thing to say, but what I'm trying to say is that it's mostly the nutritional deficiencies that cause problems with children and while as I said I haven't researched for Autism specifically, it's still nothing new that if the woman has iodine deficiency with a lot of bromide and fluoride the born children will have noumerous problems, can't even list them all because iodine is so important for many things.

just stop

 

[manimal]

nm

 

[Stewox]

just stop

You think I'm joking, I had iodine deficiency because the Recommended-Daily-Allowance across the world is laughable, in just 3 days of taking it, it stopped my hair loss, I'm just in mid 20ies and I was losing hair like crazy, it was fallin off my head on the keyboard and it was getting ridicolous.

 

[Soundmanred]

I'll just go ahead and leave this right here....



http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...npr&utm_campaign=nprnews&utm_content=03032014

/thread.

That was "left here" yesterday.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Yeah, it's like if you post meaningless drivel and baseless nonsense the majority of people will mock you or dismiss you outright based on your ignorance.

No, but really. Continue playing the victim. The only thing more entertaining than a loon is a whiny crybaby loon.

I'm not playing the victim, just pointing out the same group think you commies are pushing on people in here is exactly what the church used to do to science. I find it rather enlightening to tell you the truth. It certainly forces me to question whether vaccines really are as safe as they're claimed to be. I mean if a bunch of group think bots are attacking anyone who questions it, you can be sure there is some rich douchebag somewhere paying at least a couple of them to take those actions.

 

[Stewox]

New interview about autism links:

http://youtu.be/hSVX-gpgb-8?t=16m9s

 

[Iron Woode]

New interview about autism links:

http://youtu.be/hSVX-gpgb-8?t=16m9s

more unscientific quackery from highly dubious sources.

here is some insight into Dr. Hooker:

The things I do for you! After reading Hooker’s “debunking” of DeStefano et al, I feel the need for many, many gallons of reason and science to wash the pain from my brain, much as a hapless person who ingests 16 Million Reserve will crave gallons and gallons of water to wash the pain from his mouth. Before I get into his “scientific critique,” let’s just remind everyone of who Brian Hooker is. Brian Hooker is a biochemical engineer who works as a consultant in the biotech industry who also, unfortunately, has turned to antivaccine quackery. Specifically, he belongs to the wing of the antivaccine movement that believes against all evidence that the mercury-containing preservative thimerosal that used to be in childhood vaccines until around 2001 to 2002 is a major cause of autism. He’s also somehow managed to beguile a certain budding antivaccine crank by the name of Jake Crosby to the point that Jake turned on his former allies and dished dirt in the form of their private e-mails, publishing them on the even crankier Patrick “Tim” Bolen’s website. Hooker’s claim, channeled through Crosby’s “reporting,” was that he actually had arranged the Congressional hearing on autism in November and that the antivaccine crank group SafeMinds had, through its lobbyist Beth Clay, stepped in and taken it over by misrepresenting themselves as representing Hooker.

I will give Hooker one thing. He did have a mildly funny quip to attack DeStefano et al when he said, “The Destefano et al. 2013 study is to science what the movie Ishtar was to cinema.” Of course, antivaccine quackery is more akin to what Plan 9 From Outer Space was to cinema and has about as much relationship to reality as Plan 9 did in that his complaints against the study nearly all derive from either antivaccine talking points or a complete misunderstanding what a case control study is.

there is more but, why bother? You don't understand science. You only understand idiocy. You should really see a doctor about your psychosis.

 

[MrPickins]

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...-higher-mortality/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

I wasn't actually directing that at you. Incidentally I do agree those drugs are horrific.

Yeah they're horrific...unless you're a person who has issues living a normal life due to anxiety issues and/or panic attacks...


Also correlation != causation

The lead author, Dr. Scott Weich, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Warwick, said that while he and his colleagues were careful to account for as many potential risks as possible, they were not able to control for the severity of the illnesses suffered by the study participants.

I'm not saying they're not overprescribed, I'm just saying that they can be very beneficial, and even necessary.

 

[MrPickins]

You think I'm joking, I had iodine deficiency because the Recommended-Daily-Allowance across the world is laughable, in just 3 days of taking it, it stopped my hair loss, I'm just in mid 20ies and I was losing hair like crazy, it was fallin off my head on the keyboard and it was getting ridicolous.

How much money have you spent on stuff sold/endorsed by Alex Jones and Info Wars?

Do you never question their motives?

 

[werepossum]

Yeah they're horrific...unless you're a person who has issues living a normal life due to anxiety issues and/or panic attacks...

Also correlation != causation

I'm not saying they're not overprescribed, I'm just saying that they can be very beneficial, and even necessary.

They can certainly be very beneficial to some people; that is why they are on the market. Yet the risks and side effects are still horrendous even if that is one's best option. There is never a guarantee in life that one's best option is a good option. Often it is merely the least bad.

 

[Vic]

How much money have you spent on stuff sold/endorsed by Alex Jones and Info Wars?

Do you never question their motives?

Of course not.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

This guy is a regular snake oil salesman

 

[werepossum]

This guy is a regular snake oil salesman

Wow. I thought the guy was merely an Internet nut; I did not know he had also become the next Amway.

 

[Vic]

Wow. I thought the guy was merely an Internet nut; I did not know he had also become the next Amway.

Fear sells better than sex.

 

[werepossum]

Fear sells better than sex.

Probably. Not as big a wet spot either.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

How does not vaccinating her kids make her a communist?

It makes her look dumb and uninformed in the same way the anti-GMO crowd complaining that GMO foods causing cancer are dumb and uninformed about science. But I agree it doesn't make her a communist.

 

[Iron Woode]

This guy is a regular snake oil salesman

is that for realz?

the stupid must love parting with their money.

 

[Stewox]

It makes her look dumb and uninformed in the same way the anti-GMO crowd complaining that GMO foods causing cancer are dumb and uninformed about science.

That is only a perception from a certain group towards them.

If you think GMO are good, nobody's stopping you from eating it. Forcing it on those who don't agree makes you an enemy to them.

GMOs happen to be one of those issues where wars may be fought over, I hope you do not run out of time to choose your sides wisely.

 

[cubby1223]

I'm all for publicly shaming people who don't vaccinate but I'm not getting the commie angle.

I checked the video, and she's not called a literal commie. It was more of a joke than anything to be taken seriously. More of an analogy, being against the majority, those against communism back in the day, similar in behavior of those against anti-vaccination - as in, you will be attacked for your beliefs. I don't know. I watched the clip and she was not labeled a communist.

People, it was just a joke