Kobe's accuser apparently is lying...

[Vic]

Originally posted by: PoPPeR
yes I've heard of those, but according to that statement someone's wife could cry rape 50 years later if she decides to file for divorce?

I see your point, but it doesn't apply as the law looks at intramarital rape different than extramarital rape. Not saying that rape between married couples doesn't exist (it does), just that it's quite a bit harder to make the charge stick. The fact that the couple got married in first place does imply some degree of consent.
On the other hand, it is much easier to make rape cases stick between two passing strangers, as we see here in the Kobe case. And yes, there have been rape convictions where the alleged victim didn't come forth until years after the fact (although the statute of limitations varies from state to state).

 

[prvteye2003]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: PoPPeR

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Shes a slutt , but Kobe is still a rapist

Yep.

Let's all remember that, according to both California and Colorado, rape is anytime the woman changes her mind. Either during the act or years later.

WTF? Did this come out right or are you kidding?

LOL. That'd be great in a divorce case. My husband raped me, I became pregnant with our current 15 year old kid! I just changed my mind, I didn't really want sex!

laugh all you want but it does happen. The last one that was in the news was 2 kids around 16 were having sex. she said stop and pull out. he took less then 15 seconds to respond. he was charged and convicted of rape.


there have been other stories of women the NEXT day saying they didnt want to have sex and declared rape. EVEN though like in the kobe case she NEVER said no.

you are FOS

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
The worst part is it undermines the process of convicting people who actually commited REAL rapes. I hate rapists, but there's a lot of fvcked up women out there that would just scream rape on a guy because he dumped her.

I could not agree more.

However, as long as the law is what it is, then justice must be fair and blind, whether the accused is a homeless bum, an average joe, or a big NBA star.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: prvteye2003

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: PoPPeR

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Shes a slutt , but Kobe is still a rapist

Yep.

Let's all remember that, according to both California and Colorado, rape is anytime the woman changes her mind. Either during the act or years later.

WTF? Did this come out right or are you kidding?

LOL. That'd be great in a divorce case. My husband raped me, I became pregnant with our current 15 year old kid! I just changed my mind, I didn't really want sex!

laugh all you want but it does happen. The last one that was in the news was 2 kids around 16 were having sex. she said stop and pull out. he took less then 15 seconds to respond. he was charged and convicted of rape.


there have been other stories of women the NEXT day saying they didnt want to have sex and declared rape. EVEN though like in the kobe case she NEVER said no.

you are FOS

I WISH I WAS.

here.

and here need more? In the future before you call someone full of sh!t you might want to do a little research.

 

[sillymofo]

Vic, most of the time, you're alright, but sometimes, you sound like a fcuking bumbling moron.

Let's all remember that, according to both California and Colorado, rape is anytime the woman changes her mind. Either during the act or years later.

Either that or California and Colorado legislative bodies are full of idiots.

 

[0roo0roo]

jumping the gun, dna results not back yet

 

[masterxfob]

that means any of my past girlfriends could come after me for rape......

or maybe i should turn it around and acuse them of rape

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
that means any of my past girlfriends could come after me for rape......

or maybe i should turn it around and acuse them of rape

Would never stick. Women don't get convicted for raping a man. Just wouldn't happen.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: PingSpike
The worst part is it undermines the process of convicting people who actually commited REAL rapes. I hate rapists, but there's a lot of fvcked up women out there that would just scream rape on a guy because he dumped her.

I could not agree more.

However, as long as the law is what it is, then justice must be fair and blind, whether the accused is a homeless bum, an average joe, or a big NBA star.

Don't get me wrong. I'd have no problem convicting Kobe if I thought he did it based on the evidence. I don't like basketball and I don't like the lakers or Kobe. And he clearly lacks character. But based on this evidence that the prosecution has introduced, I don't see how she has a case. First of all, having 3 loads in here makes her look like a major skank which just plain damages her credibility. Slutty girls can certainly get raped...but do they go and have a little comfort fvck an hour after it happens? I hope not.

Kobe: Rapist? No from what I've seen. Man-whore womanizing cheater? Sure. And thats not a crime. Although California may pass a law against it sometime soon.

 

[dolph]

i'm still unclear. it seems that the girl (or guy, but that's purely hypothetical) can say no at any point during sex, and if the other person doesn't stop that means it's rape. ok, i can understand that. but if two people are having consensual sex the entire time, then the next day (or hell, 10 seconds after it's done) one person decides they didn't want it, that's still rape? nuh uh. no way. none of the links posted suggested that, and on no level is it possible for anyone to say the sex wasn't consensual when during the entire episode no protests were made in any way. what's the opposing party supposed to do, read minds? sorry, it's bullshijt for anyone to say that's the law anywhere unless they post a clear example of a case.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

from the second article

Despite earlier worries about hearings dragging throughout the day, Bryant left an Eagle County (Colo.) courtroom at around 5:10 p.m. PT on Thursday and raced to make it back to Los Angeles for Game 4 of the Western Conference finals.

/start twilight zone music

he left the courtroom at 5:10 PT on thursday?!? its only 4:20 PT on thursday...

/end twilight zone music

 

[DietSierraMist]

Originally posted by: spanky

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: spanky
so did her pic ever make it into public? is she hot? she better be... becuz kobe's wife is bangin'

pics

WHAT!?!? kobe's wife is like eight billion times hotter (IMHO).

a white girl is a black mans kryptonite

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: DietSierraMist

a slutty white girl is a black mans kryptonite

Fixed.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: DietSierraMist

a slutty white girl is a black mans kryptonite

Fixed.

LMAO. This is true.

 

[ShawnD1]

I hope Kobe gets off.



On second thought, that's what got Kobe in this mess to begin with

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
from the second article

Despite earlier worries about hearings dragging throughout the day, Bryant left an Eagle County (Colo.) courtroom at around 5:10 p.m. PT on Thursday and raced to make it back to Los Angeles for Game 4 of the Western Conference finals.

/start twilight zone music

he left the courtroom at 5:10 PT on thursday?!? its only 4:20 PT on thursday...

/end twilight zone music

Colorado is in a different timezone than California.

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: DietSierraMist

a slutty white girl is a black mans kryptonite

Fixed.

i thought they liked the BBWs?

 

[StageLeft]

All I've read indicates she's a stank ho and is lying, but I've not really read that much about it.

you can rape a whore, so it dont matter if she banged a lot of dudes or not.
if she said no and he forced her, its still rape.

True, but it was probably not rape at all.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: toant103

Originally posted by: thereds
She's a sloot.

i think the offcial term is cum dumpster

I've always liked "Sperm Receptacle".

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
All I've read indicates she's a stank ho and is lying, but I've not really read that much about it.

you can rape a whore, so it dont matter if she banged a lot of dudes or not.
if she said no and he forced her, its still rape.

True, but it was probably not rape at all.

I agree, and the point of the defense bringing that evidence to light is, having sex shortly after supposedly being raped is NOT behavior consistent with a rape victim.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

The way I read the MSNBC article, it sounds as though the notion that she had sex after the alleged rape is just a defense contention. As the article puts it, the presence of other DNA just might be indicative of sex in the time period surrounding the alleged rape, not necessarily after.

Here's what I think:

- Kobe may or may not be guilty. I tend to think there is sufficient reasonable doubt, based on the victim's own erratic behavior, to acquit him. This does NOT necessarily mean he isn't guilty.

- Kobe is NOT, at this point, a rapist as far as I'm concerned. He is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and I tend to think he will be acquitted.

- This girl's behavior looks bad, but it is mean and destructive to society to be publically calling her a "slut," a "cum dumpster," or other crass names. Her prior sexual behavior is not relevant to what actually happened with Kobe (though it might well be relevant in his trial, once the door of that room closed, it ceased to have anything to do with his behavior). Making fun of women who accuse others of rape makes it harder for other sexual assault victims to come forward. If this woman were your mother or sister, and you knew she had really been raped, notwithstanding prior promiscuity, how would it make you feel to hear others call her a "cum dumpster"? I find it sad and disappointing that she has been publically villified the way she has, primarily because her alleged rapist is a famous athlete.

- Ultimately, Kobe is either lucky, in that he raped a crazy, promiscuous 19-year-old woman, or unlucky, in that he had consensual sex with a crazy, promiscuous 19-year-old woman. Either way, he screwed up, and let's not pretend he is some kind of saint.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
The way I read the MSNBC article, it sounds as though the notion that she had sex after the alleged rape is just a defense contention. As the article puts it, the presence of other DNA just might be indicative of sex in the time period surrounding the alleged rape, not necessarily after.

Here's what I think:

- Kobe may or may not be guilty. I tend to think there is sufficient reasonable doubt, based on the victim's own erratic behavior, to acquit him. This does NOT necessarily mean he isn't guilty.

- Kobe is NOT, at this point, a rapist as far as I'm concerned. He is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and I tend to think he will be acquitted.

- This girl's behavior looks bad, but it is mean and destructive to society to be publically calling her a "slut," a "cum dumpster," or other crass names. Her prior sexual behavior is not relevant to what actually happened with Kobe (though it might well be relevant in his trial, once the door of that room closed, it ceased to have anything to do with his behavior). Making fun of women who accuse others of rape makes it harder for other sexual assault victims to come forward. If this woman were your mother or sister, and you knew she had really been raped, notwithstanding prior promiscuity, how would it make you feel to hear others call her a "cum dumpster"? I find it sad and disappointing that she has been publically villified the way she has, primarily because her alleged rapist is a famous athlete.

- Ultimately, Kobe is either lucky, in that he raped a crazy, promiscuous 19-year-old woman, or unlucky, in that he had consensual sex with a crazy, promiscuous 19-year-old woman. Either way, he screwed up, and let's not pretend he is some kind of saint.

saint? hell no. he broke his vows to be faithfull to his wife. Thats enough for me to dislike the man.

i do not believe he raped this girl.

On a side note i wish conviction of rape was a harsher offense. But on the same side false allacations should be just as harsh. Changing your mind after the fact is NOT grounds for a rape conviction.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Shes a slutt , but Kobe is still a rapist

Yep.

Let's all remember that, according to both California and Colorado, rape is anytime the woman changes her mind. Either during the act or years later.
And as I've posted a hundred times, if this was anyone else but Kobe, you all would be screaming for the death penalty. Gee... I wish I was an NBA basketball star... smoke weed and rape all you want, be above the law... :roll:

WTF are you talking about?! You can't say afterwards man that was a mistake, even though I consented I don't want my friends thinking I'm a 'ho I better say he raped me... Anyways I think your kidding, but I've had like 3 hours sleep in as many days so its getting really hard to tell right now!

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Shes a slutt , but Kobe is still a rapist

oh and another thing... since two other morons decided to agree with you...


if she's a slut then why did he have to rape her? He's kobe bryant.... i doubt many sluts would pass on Kobe bryant.


you were right about her being a slut....but kobe a rapist? i don't think so.

I agree.

Agreed. WTF Is with everyone assuming he raped her?

 

[sillymofo]

If Kobe file for bankruptcy right now, there won't be anymore law suits........................................................................................