That only makes it easy for women to accuse men, because they don't have to put their name on the line. Anyways, it's her word against his, and I believe Kobe over some unnamed accuser. You can draw your own conclusions.
That only makes it easy for women to accuse men, because they don't have to put their name on the line. Anyways, it's her word against his, and I believe Kobe over some unnamed accuser. You can draw your own conclusions.
You believe Kobe why? Just cause he makes a lot of money? Because he's a celebrity? Honestly this girl doesn't have much to gain by these charges. He didn't actually rape her and she can't write a book or movie about it. It's only going to make her life hell. Everyone that says they know her personally said she doesn't have a malicious bone in her body and shes a sweet girl.
Kobe on the other hand married a girl straight out of high school who just turned 18. Now he's hitting on a 19 yr old? Draw your own conclusions. Kobe like'em young.
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Hmmmm, let's think about this statement. Kobe is all of what, 24 years old? He's been married for 2 years, so he was approxmiately 22 when he married an 18 year old. His wife should be 20 by now. He has SUPPOSEDLY abused this 19-year-old while he is 24 years of age.
He likes 'em young because he's young himself! You say it like he's 40 or something.
The fact that the woman's name has not been released to the public does not mean that her name hasn't been released to Kobe. In the United States, you have a right to know your accuser.
I have no idea why you'd think the general public has that right. (Although it does seem that for the most part court records are public.)
It sounds already like the DA blew it. Even if Kobe were convicted, he may have grounds for appeal.
First off, look at the Eagle Sheriff's press release: [Excerpt:] "Upon review of interviews and physical evidence, Investigators met with the District Attorney's office and
concluded they had enough evidence to charge Kobe Bryant with felony sexual assault. During the investigation, Bryant was cooperative with authorities."
Now, if they had already concluded that there was enough evidence to charge him, then why the delay? Wouldn't they have a grand jury or preliminary hearing at this time? Why does the DA keep talking on TV about how they're investigating and if they do have enough evidence will charge him. What is going on? It sounds to me that the DA and the police hastily arrested him because they were anxious they had gotten the tiger (i.e., someone who's reputation is clean, albeit he might have a skeleton in his closet; and they desperately wanted an opportunity to further their careers). The sheriff's office even bypassed the DA's office to get an arrest warrant. This just doesn't make sense. Perhaps overzealous prosecutor or sheriffs aren't taking their time to do their jobs so there won't be room for appeals. I won't be surprised if any of them get charged for misconduct as officers or DA.
Anyway, as far as the truth of the matter: I think it's difficult to fairly form an opinion when the accuser is protected. I can understand the decision to protect the accusers, though. I also wonder what's with this "felony sexual assault"? If it's rape, call it rape. *Sigh!*
I was able to learn a little about this lady. She's said to be a 19 yrs old and going to be a sophomore by Fall this year. She was a cheerleader at her high school. She was also said to have tried American Idol, but I guess she didn't get picked.
Here's what I think at the surface: Could there be a motivation for filing charges against Kobe? Yes. For someone who once tried American Idol, she doesn't sound like the low key type. If she wanted an opportunity to get noticed so she could pursue a career in entertainment or music, then yes she could do this. Would it mean that her charges were unfounded? No. It would mean that there likely was a sexual contact but it was consented. Now she wanted to pretend it was not; hence she gains publicity. I'm saddened in cases where people exploit the rights women have to press charges of rape. It makes the true cases hard to believe; because the science may show a physical contact, but it's his word against her word when it comes to consent. Additionally, I believe I heard that a friend of hers did say she liked to be the centre of attention or that she really liked Kobe Bryant and wanted to meet him. You also have to wonder what she was doing at that time of the night in someone's room.
On the other hand, I do see it possible that Kobe violated her. He knew he had a good reputation, so he perhaps thought he was fine. Many men who become celebrities think all of the ladies in the world want them. And then when they run into one who doesn't care, they feel that their manhood has been insulted. It could provoke the urge to show their manhood to the persons that aren't the least moved, especially if they're handsome men as in the case of Kobe. Also, you wonder if a guy that married an underage lady (at that time) wouldn't care for a 19 years old attractive woman (even though 19 isn't underage). Lastly, she reported the incident the very next day, which would be different if she had delayed it. So it is possible that he did commit this act. One thing is very likely and almost certain: There was a sexual contact between the two. This doesn't sound like a case of Jane from no where claiming to have sexual contact with a celebrity. What is likely to be the contention is whether or not it was consensual. If that's the case, I hardly feel sorry for him, since he consciously made a foolish decision, in spite of his career and the fact that he was married. Even if it was consensual, obviously he didn't find them important enough not to jeopardise all that he ever had with someone deciding to press charges against him.
First off, look at the Eagle Sheriff's press release: [Excerpt:] "Upon review of interviews and physical evidence, Investigators met with the District Attorney's office and
concluded they had enough evidence to charge Kobe Bryant with felony sexual assault. During the investigation, Bryant was cooperative with authorities."
Now, if they had already concluded that there was enough evidence to charge him, then why the delay? Wouldn't they have a grand jury or preliminary hearing at this time? Why does the DA keep talking on TV about how they're investigating and if they do have enough evidence will charge him. What is going on? It sounds to me that the DA and the police hastily arrested him because they were anxious they had gotten the tiger (i.e., someone who's reputation is clean, albeit he might have a skeleton in his closet; and they desperately wanted an opportunity to further their careers). The sheriff's office even bypassed the DA's office to get an arrest warrant. This just doesn't make sense. Perhaps overzealous prosecutor or sheriffs aren't taking their time to do their jobs so there won't be room for appeals. I won't be surprised if any of them get charged for misconduct as officers or DA.
Anyway, as far as the truth of the matter: I think it's difficult to fairly form an opinion when the accuser is protected. I can understand the decision to protect the accusers, though. I also wonder what's with this "felony sexual assault"? If it's rape, call it rape. *Sigh!*
I was able to learn a little about this lady. She's said to be a 19 yrs old and going to be a sophomore by Fall this year. She was a cheerleader at her high school. She was also said to have tried American Idol, but I guess she didn't get picked.
Here's what I think at the surface: Could there be a motivation for filing charges against Kobe? Yes. For someone who once tried American Idol, she doesn't sound like the low key type. If she wanted an opportunity to get noticed so she could pursue a career in entertainment or music, then yes she could do this. Would it mean that her charges were unfounded? No. It would mean that there likely was a sexual contact but it was consented. Now she wanted to pretend it was not; hence she gains publicity. I'm saddened in cases where people exploit the rights women have to press charges of rape. It makes the true cases hard to believe; because the science may show a physical contact, but it's his word against her word when it comes to consent. Additionally, I believe I heard that a friend of hers did say she liked to be the centre of attention or that she really liked Kobe Bryant and wanted to meet him. You also have to wonder what she was doing at that time of the night in someone's room.
On the other hand, I do see it possible that Kobe violated her. He knew he had a good reputation, so he perhaps thought he was fine. Many men who become celebrities think all of the ladies in the world want them. And then when they run into one who doesn't care, they feel that their manhood has been insulted. It could provoke the urge to show their manhood to the persons that aren't the least moved, especially if they're handsome men as in the case of Kobe. Also, you wonder if a guy that married an underage lady (at that time) wouldn't care for a 19 years old attractive woman (even though 19 isn't underage). Lastly, she reported the incident the very next day, which would be different if she had delayed it. So it is possible that he did commit this act. One thing is very likely and almost certain: There was a sexual contact between the two. This doesn't sound like a case of Jane from no where claiming to have sexual contact with a celebrity. What is likely to be the contention is whether or not it was consensual. If that's the case, I hardly feel sorry for him, since he consciously made a foolish decision, in spite of his career and the fact that he was married. Even if it was consensual, obviously he didn't find them important enough not to jeopardise all that he ever had with someone deciding to press charges against him.
In United States you are innocent until proven guilty too. So unless and until this woman proves otherwise, I believe Kobe when he says its bogus.
Bryant: "It Will Be Fine"
Bryant: 'It Will Be Fine'
Laker claims innocence in alleged assault, saying, "You know I would never do something like that."
By Bill Plaschke, Times Staff Writer
In a calm voice, Laker star Kobe Bryant asserted his innocence Saturday, eight days after being arrested and booked on suspicion of felony sexual assault in Eagle County, Colo.
"When everything comes clean, it will all be fine, you'll see," Bryant said during a brief telephone interview.
Bryant declined to discuss the case, but said, "But you guys know me, I shouldn't have to say anything. You know I would never do something like that."
He sounded surprised at the rumors being spread about that night.
"Man, there's a lot of crazy stories out there," he said.
A 19-year-old woman who works at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards has accused Bryant, 24, of sexual assault on the night of June 30.
Under Colorado law, sexual assault encompasses a wide range of behavior, and what the accusations are is not clear because the woman's account to authorities has been sealed. Eagle County Dist. Atty. Mark Hurlbert is reviewing evidence and is expected to decide this week whether to charge Bryant.
The alleged attack was reported to Eagle County law enforcement officials on July 1.
Bryant was escorted by authorities to Valley View Hospital in Glenwood Springs for DNA testing the next morning.
He flew home later that day but returned to Colorado on July 4 to turn himself in when Eagle County Sheriff Joseph Hoy obtained an arrest warrant from a district judge.
Bryant was released after posting a $25,000 bond.
Bryant's attorneys previously have declared his innocence, but Saturday was the first time Bryant has spoken publicly about the allegations.
Bryant: 'It Will Be Fine'
Laker claims innocence in alleged assault, saying, "You know I would never do something like that."
By Bill Plaschke, Times Staff Writer
In a calm voice, Laker star Kobe Bryant asserted his innocence Saturday, eight days after being arrested and booked on suspicion of felony sexual assault in Eagle County, Colo.
"When everything comes clean, it will all be fine, you'll see," Bryant said during a brief telephone interview.
Bryant declined to discuss the case, but said, "But you guys know me, I shouldn't have to say anything. You know I would never do something like that."
He sounded surprised at the rumors being spread about that night.
"Man, there's a lot of crazy stories out there," he said.
A 19-year-old woman who works at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards has accused Bryant, 24, of sexual assault on the night of June 30.
Under Colorado law, sexual assault encompasses a wide range of behavior, and what the accusations are is not clear because the woman's account to authorities has been sealed. Eagle County Dist. Atty. Mark Hurlbert is reviewing evidence and is expected to decide this week whether to charge Bryant.
The alleged attack was reported to Eagle County law enforcement officials on July 1.
Bryant was escorted by authorities to Valley View Hospital in Glenwood Springs for DNA testing the next morning.
He flew home later that day but returned to Colorado on July 4 to turn himself in when Eagle County Sheriff Joseph Hoy obtained an arrest warrant from a district judge.
Bryant was released after posting a $25,000 bond.
Bryant's attorneys previously have declared his innocence, but Saturday was the first time Bryant has spoken publicly about the allegations.
Pals: Kobe accuser 'aggressive' around celebs
By DAN LUZADDER
SPECIAL TO THE NEWS
Kobe Bryant at his booking.
EAGLE, Colo. - The teenager who said she was assaulted by Kobe Bryant was described by friends yesterday as a celebrity chaser who had gone through a rough time in the weeks before the incident.
The picture of the 19-year-old former cheerleader emerged as fresh reports came out about the night of the alleged attack.
The Denver Post reported that staffers at the ritzy Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo., were called to Bryant's room to break up a late-night dispute with a woman that night. The call was made by other hotel guests who reported a noisy dispute coming from the room.
The newspaper also said Bryant's accuser, who worked as a concierge at the hotel, may have gone to his room after her shift was over.
Bryant, a star on the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team, has been accused of sexual assault. The Eagle County prosecutor said he won't decide until next week whether to formally charge Bryant and prosecute him.
A lawyer for Bryant has insisted he is innocent.
Known for stargazing
Several friends of the woman said that star sightings are a popular pastime among the teenagers in the resort town near Vail.
"I can see her talking to him and wanting to meet him and all that, and coming back to tell her friends who she met," one of her pals, Casey Strickler, told the Daily News.
Stephanie Morris, 17, agreed.
"She's the kind of person who would want to get his autograph, would want to talk to him and tell people she'd met him," Stephanie said.
Proximity to celebrities is one of the attractions of working at the Cordillera hotel.
"The tips are good, the pay is good and the celebrities are there," she said.
Stephanie said her friend would not have been shy about approaching Bryant.
"She can be pretty aggressive. She's nice, don't get me wrong, but she can be aggressive," Stephanie said.
She also said her friend had gone through a rough period in recent weeks.
"She's had some other problems lately," Stephanie said. "A close friend of hers died in an auto accident a few weeks ago. And I heard she had some problems at college."
She said her friend had a long relationship with a boyfriend who was a football player on the high school team, but that they recently broke up.
"They were pretty close, but I think that was difficult for both of them. Now there's this," Stephanie said.
Stephanie said her friend did not seem to be the type to attract a superstar.
"She's a pretty average girl," Stephanie said.
By DAN LUZADDER
SPECIAL TO THE NEWS
Kobe Bryant at his booking.
EAGLE, Colo. - The teenager who said she was assaulted by Kobe Bryant was described by friends yesterday as a celebrity chaser who had gone through a rough time in the weeks before the incident.
The picture of the 19-year-old former cheerleader emerged as fresh reports came out about the night of the alleged attack.
The Denver Post reported that staffers at the ritzy Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo., were called to Bryant's room to break up a late-night dispute with a woman that night. The call was made by other hotel guests who reported a noisy dispute coming from the room.
The newspaper also said Bryant's accuser, who worked as a concierge at the hotel, may have gone to his room after her shift was over.
Bryant, a star on the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team, has been accused of sexual assault. The Eagle County prosecutor said he won't decide until next week whether to formally charge Bryant and prosecute him.
A lawyer for Bryant has insisted he is innocent.
Known for stargazing
Several friends of the woman said that star sightings are a popular pastime among the teenagers in the resort town near Vail.
"I can see her talking to him and wanting to meet him and all that, and coming back to tell her friends who she met," one of her pals, Casey Strickler, told the Daily News.
Stephanie Morris, 17, agreed.
"She's the kind of person who would want to get his autograph, would want to talk to him and tell people she'd met him," Stephanie said.
Proximity to celebrities is one of the attractions of working at the Cordillera hotel.
"The tips are good, the pay is good and the celebrities are there," she said.
Stephanie said her friend would not have been shy about approaching Bryant.
"She can be pretty aggressive. She's nice, don't get me wrong, but she can be aggressive," Stephanie said.
She also said her friend had gone through a rough period in recent weeks.
"She's had some other problems lately," Stephanie said. "A close friend of hers died in an auto accident a few weeks ago. And I heard she had some problems at college."
She said her friend had a long relationship with a boyfriend who was a football player on the high school team, but that they recently broke up.
"They were pretty close, but I think that was difficult for both of them. Now there's this," Stephanie said.
Stephanie said her friend did not seem to be the type to attract a superstar.
"She's a pretty average girl," Stephanie said.
I agree with Evan, I agree there obviously isn't hard enough evidence to make this a sure fire prosecution (else they (probablly) would have charged) but I want to know why the whole hospital incident. Maybe he flirted with her, then later she got hurt and decided he would be a good person to blame??
What exactly were you saying?
Whos the dumbsh!t's now!!
Kobe is a worthless POS. Everyone in here who defended him got OWNED!!!
I'm no Kobe or Laker fan in any way,shape or form but I think he is innocent.
Kobe could get laid anytime he wants to. Why would he have to rape someone?
This has golddigger written all over it.
Kobe could get laid anytime he wants to. Why would he have to rape someone?
This has golddigger written all over it.
He admits to cheating on his wife with this 19 year old girl. The only difference is she says it was forced, he said she did it willingly. I don't think they would have filed the charges if they didn't have some good witnesses. If I remember correctly they said there were some workers or guest at the hotel that made complaints. Also if she was taken to the doctor and any signs of forced entry or bruises on her body, he'll be in some deep stuff.
It's really hard to tell at this point, but I don?t think they would have taken 2 weeks to review the evidence and then file charges if they didn't have something pretty damning.
He's got a six month old daughter and a new wife. Regardless if she?s a gold digger (which we really shouldn't say, because everyone was trashing her, now Kobe admits to sleeping with her, but yet she?s still the bad guy and he?s ok??), he's still a loser in my book.
So much for his squeeky clean good guy image. All the Kobe fans just ate their words
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
He admits to cheating on his wife with this 19 year old girl. The only difference is she says it was forced, he said she did it willingly. I don't think they would have filed the charges if they didn't have some good witnesses. If I remember correctly they said there were some workers or guest at the hotel that made complaints. Also if she was taken to the doctor and any signs of forced entry or bruises on her body, he'll be in some deep stuff.
It's really hard to tell at this point, but I don?t think they would have taken 2 weeks to review the evidence and then file charges if they didn't have something pretty damning.
He's got a six month old daughter and a new wife. Regardless if she?s a gold digger (which we really shouldn't say, because everyone was trashing her, now Kobe admits to sleeping with her, but yet she?s still the bad guy and he?s ok??), he's still a loser in my book.
So much for his squeeky clean good guy image. All the Kobe fans just ate their words
Lets just say I can't stand Kobe ot the lakers .... However he has not been proven guilty yet. It took a brave and scared man to do that press conference with his wife beside him. I am more concerend with how long it took them to actually file charges. They must have some strong evidence.
Who really cares?
I'm just getting tired of seeing the footage of him at the ESPY awards smacking his lips.
I'm just getting tired of seeing the footage of him at the ESPY awards smacking his lips.
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