Knife attack on CA GOP candidate

[Paratus]

The assailant should be supplied due process, prosecuted and punished per the law assuming he’s found guilty.


I’m more interested in the fact that neither victim nor assailant was armed with a gun and both are still alive and relatively unharmed.

I thought it was unpossible to protect yourself from violence without a gun?

Plus the real question here was why didn’t the assailant have a gun? Why isn’t anyone asking whether CAs draconian gun laws infringed on this guys 2A rights. He should have been allowed to be armed until he was t a responsible gun owner anymore.

/s

 

[Atreus21]

You really can't process things can you? He is saying that the group may trigger a response from the few. Not all. This isn't hard here. Follow along.

Don't assume we can't see what you're trying to do here.

No I can't process a damned thing. Happy? I asked zin, not you, the question.

 

[zinfamous]

Zin specifically mentioned the GOP as a group.

I pretty much called out the GOP for having a bunch of stupid ideas and shifting blame for their own bad behavior as far from themselves as possible. Providing an example of a fallacy is not an endorsement of said fallacy.

 

[Paratus]

Do you agree that muslims should do this?

Why are you bringing his religion into this? The guy was a lone-wolf. Probably had mental issues.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Again: maybe stop poking the bear? It's all well and good to blame the perpetrator for making the decision to turn to violence, but I will never have sympathy for the victim who has spent who knows how long inciting that very violence against themselves.

Now as for this specific GOP hopeful, I don't know anything about him or if he is the same sort of shitbucket that is typical among the GOP, but it comes with the association. That is simply a statement of the observable fact of where we are today, and where this kind of rhetoric has brought us. It's unfortunate if this dude is alright and got assaulted only because his compatriots represent the abject worst that humanity has to offer, but that is simply where we are.

If you don't like that this is where decades of public animus directed against minorities by the GOP has brought us, then fix your own. Hey, that's only what the GOP wants the blacks, the muslims, and the abused women to do anyway, right?

The only guy poking is the one with the knife. The rest is just tribalistic rationalization of partisan violence. But I keep hearing the left doesn’t have an unhinged fringe. Nope, none at all.

 

[Jhhnn]

The devil is in the details-

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2...essional-candidate-switchblade-castro-valley/

 

[zinfamous]

The only guy poking is the one with the knife. The rest is just tribalistic rationalization of partisan violence. But I keep hearing the left doesn’t have an unhinged fringe. Nope, none at all.

a handful of guys getting stabby in very recent years is the same as decades of consistent legions of assholes getting stabby and explodey. And no, that isn't what you heard. You only heard what you wanted to hear.

Yep, totally rational argument you are putting forward that many will indeed show you great respect for.

 

[Starbuck1975]

a handful of guys getting stabby in very recent years is the same as decades of consistent legions of assholes getting stabby and explodey. And no, that isn't what you heard. You only heard what you wanted to hear.

Yep, totally rational argument you are putting forward that many will indeed show you great respect for.

So you’re still trying to rationalize an unhinged nutjob attacking a politician. That doesn’t sound particularly rational. Tribalistic perhaps, but not rational.

 

[Moonbeam]

I plead the Пятый.

As well you should. America is a sacred country and the sacred needs to be pure. That is why it is only natural that the one group in the country more impure vile than immigrants, the GOP, must be purged, excised, cut out, expunged, stabbed, however you want to put it, and if that job falls to immigrants, more power to them. In this way they will become more worthy, more real American at core.

 

[sandorski]

Second Amendment solutions.

 

[Blackjack200]

The devil is in the details-

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2...essional-candidate-switchblade-castro-valley/

“He picks up a coffee cup to rear back and throw it at us. And I jumped around the table. He throws the coffee cup and misses us. It hits the ground and breaks,” remembered Peters. “So I come out and grab him and wrestle him and throw him down to the ground.”

He said that was when Fazeli pulled out a knife.

“He’s screaming, ‘I’ll kill you MFer! I’ll kill you! I’ll kill you!’ And he’s kind of circling me trying to get the knife out,” said Peters

Wait, so if I recall the Trevon Martin case, once Peters wrestled him to the ground, Fazeli reasonably feared for his life, so pulling the switchblade seems like justifiable self defense to me.

 

[Moonbeam]

So you’re still trying to rationalize an unhinged nutjob attacking a politician. That doesn’t sound particularly rational. Tribalistic perhaps, but not rational.

Maybe it would sound less like a rationalization if we rephrased it properly. A nut job attacked a monster who is a member of a party that is protecting a President who is a Russian plant and agent, and won with Russian illegal election meddling. Think of it more like some murdering scumbag who joined the army and took out a Nazi machine gun nest. Be a bit more creative in your thinking. If you are going to live in an absurd altered reality bubble, decorate it. You are so boring. "Pot Kettle", Jesus save me. It's elephant vs teensy weensy donkey.

 

[dank69]

“He picks up a coffee cup to rear back and throw it at us. And I jumped around the table. He throws the coffee cup and misses us. It hits the ground and breaks,” remembered Peters. “So I come out and grab him and wrestle him and throw him down to the ground.”

He said that was when Fazeli pulled out a knife.

“He’s screaming, ‘I’ll kill you MFer! I’ll kill you! I’ll kill you!’ And he’s kind of circling me trying to get the knife out,” said Peters

Wait, so if I recall the Trevon Martin case, once Peters wrestled him to the ground, Fazeli reasonably feared for his life, so pulling the switchblade seems like justifiable self defense to me.

This is correct but he did it wrong. If he shot Peters dead and claimed self defense he'd be fine. Peters lived to tell his side.

 

[Jhhnn]

“He picks up a coffee cup to rear back and throw it at us. And I jumped around the table. He throws the coffee cup and misses us. It hits the ground and breaks,” remembered Peters. “So I come out and grab him and wrestle him and throw him down to the ground.”

He said that was when Fazeli pulled out a knife.

“He’s screaming, ‘I’ll kill you MFer! I’ll kill you! I’ll kill you!’ And he’s kind of circling me trying to get the knife out,” said Peters

Wait, so if I recall the Trevon Martin case, once Peters wrestled him to the ground, Fazeli reasonably feared for his life, so pulling the switchblade seems like justifiable self defense to me.

Yeh, it wasn't the unprovoked knife attack it's painted to be....

 

[Moonbeam]

This is correct but he did it wrong. If he shot Peters dead and claimed self defense he'd be fine. Peters lived to tell his side.

If you call being a Zombie living, I guess.

 

[jackstar7]

Very glad that CA ain't FL.

 

[Atreus21]

Why are you bringing his religion into this? The guy was a lone-wolf. Probably had mental issues.

Who's religion? The assailant isn't Muslim. Zin brought up the fact that Muslims are held to this unfair standard too, as in the case of terrorism. I asked if Zin supported this.

 

[pauldun170]

“He picks up a coffee cup to rear back and throw it at us. And I jumped around the table. He throws the coffee cup and misses us. It hits the ground and breaks,” remembered Peters. “So I come out and grab him and wrestle him and throw him down to the ground.”

He said that was when Fazeli pulled out a knife.

“He’s screaming, ‘I’ll kill you MFer! I’ll kill you! I’ll kill you!’ And he’s kind of circling me trying to get the knife out,” said Peters

Wait, so if I recall the Trevon Martin case, once Peters wrestled him to the ground, Fazeli reasonably feared for his life, so pulling the switchblade seems like justifiable self defense to me.

Original story - Man attacks GOP Candidate with knife.
Updated story - Man throws coffee cup at another man and misses. Man gets thrown to ground and then pulls out unopened pocket knife to threaten man who threw him to the ground. Man who threw guy to ground pulls sign to defend himself against man with unopened pocket knife. Pocket knife man then runs away.

Arresting officers - Probably made one of those weird faces when getting everyone's story.

 

[pauldun170]

The issue here is that white men are dangerous animals.

 

[Moonbeam]

On the bright side because every cloud has a silver lining, The more Republicans walk around with crap, having shit themselves do to all the leftist stabbings, the more time they will spend cleaning up and the less bad laws they will have time to pass.

 

[Moonbeam]

The issue here is that white men are dangerous animals.

No no no, it's that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.

 

[HomerJS]

Since Trump proclaimed he could shoot someone on the street and his people wouldn't care,

why should we care about this??

 

[ivwshane]

So you’re still trying to rationalize an unhinged nutjob attacking a politician. That doesn’t sound particularly rational. Tribalistic perhaps, but not rational.

And you and your band of merry dipshits continue to straw man the conversation to fit your narrative.

Talk about being rational when you can actually address what's being discussed

 

[brycejones]

The poor straw people getting beat to a pulp in this thread. What do conservatives have against the staw people?

How do they know the straw isn't white straw?

 

[fskimospy]

Original story - Man attacks GOP Candidate with knife.
Updated story - Man throws coffee cup at another man and misses. Man gets thrown to ground and then pulls out unopened pocket knife to threaten man who threw him to the ground. Man who threw guy to ground pulls sign to defend himself against man with unopened pocket knife. Pocket knife man then runs away.

Arresting officers - Probably made one of those weird faces when getting everyone's story.

Yeah, it seems that no one acted appropriately here and Fazeli instigated the incident.

That being said, it's a good point that by the candidate's own admission Fazeli only went for his knife (that was never opened) after being thrown to the ground. I don't really give a shit about this incident but it seems awfully hard to characterize it as a 'knife attack' when no one was attacked with a knife and I feel like circumstances similar to the ones described here have been considered 'good shoots' by conservatives in the past.