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Knee defender device caused a fight on NJ to CO flight.

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disappoint said:
Orville and Wilbur Wright are rolling over in their graves.

Remember when flight was magical and exciting because it was a technological breakthrough for humans to be able to fly around in a metal tube? Yeah probably not.
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:thumbsup: I used to love flying. Now I just dread it.

Between TSA screenings, the endless waiting around, layovers, delays, crowded seats it just sucks ass. Anything I can do to make it as painless as possible and I'm doing it. If this includes reclining my seat a couple inches so be it.
 
tynopik said:
OR buy the knee defender, problem solved

That or repeated kicking of the seat in front works too
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I'm surprised airlines allow something like the knee defender, and repeated kicking would result in a fight in most cases. Hope you don't mind bothering women, children, or the elderly too. 🙄

Buy business class if you are too tall and can't handle reclined seats.
 
And what are you spoosed to watch that movie on when the seat in front of you is laying in your crotch?
 
JulesMaximus said:
I don't care if the person in front of me reclines. I expect it actually. It only moves back a couple inches at most and I usually recline my seat too so what's the big deal? We all have to fly in the same shitty conditions so why not do whatever you can to make it more comfortable for everyone? Is that couple inches of air between your face and the seatback in front of you being used for anything more important?
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Pretty much this.

If the few inches you lose due to reclining causes you to be squished, you need to lose some weight.

Or this:

Insomniator said:
Buy business class if you are too tall and can't handle reclined seats.
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GagHalfrunt said:
Just because you live your life as a coward don't assume that everyone else is just as pathetic. Not everyone is afraid of strangers. If I don't want a persons seat in my face I'll do something about it. Grow a pair, you might like it.
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So, instead of doing something to or with the airline, the people who you paid for that seat you're bitching about, you take the issue with the person in front of you who is in the same shitty situation?

Have you considered a career in local or state politics?
 
lupi said:
And what are you spoosed to watch that movie on when the seat in front of you is laying in your crotch?
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I don't know how large you are or what kind of reclining the airline seats you use have, but its like 2 inches tops from what i've seen. The difference is just enough to not have your head fall foward when relaxed.
 
tynopik said:
People with long legs who don't want their knees jammed against the seat in front

People who want to use their laptops on the tray
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if you are over 5'10" and don't have an ultrabook you are fucked even if the seat is not reclined
 
The last flight I took was for my grandfather's funeral. On the way there, there were no economy plus seats, so I got stuck in coach. I am a tall man, 6'5" and it is all legs. As such my legs were crossed and tucked/folded behind my seat as much as possible and my knees were still jammed against the seat in front of me. I had bruises from the turbulence and the seat in front bucking against my knees. There was 0% chance that the seat would recline and thankfully it was never tested. Had it been, I would have showed the situation to the guy and explained how much pain I was already in. Hopefully he would be human enough to be aware that a little discomfort for him would save me a boat ton of pain for me.

On the way back, I got economy plus and those 4 extra inches meant everything. No issues, no complaints. If I ever fly again, I will gladly pay that to ensure my comfort.

It has nothing to do with fat, it has everything to due with my fucking height.
 
The only time I recline my seat is on international fights and only when everyone is sleeping, because all the seats are reclined then. I hate the assholes that recline their damn seats as soon as they got on the plane, through meals, and everything.

And as much as I hate them, they have every rights to do so.
 
SSSnail said:
The only time I recline my seat is on international fights and only when everyone is sleeping, because all the seats are reclined then. I hate the assholes that recline their damn seats as soon as they got on the plane, through meals, and everything.

And as much as I hate them, they have every rights to do so.
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I recline my seat as soon as possible so the person behind me has time to adapt ^_^
 
Possessed Freak said:
Had it been, I would have showed the situation to the guy and explained how much pain I was already in. Hopefully he would be human enough to be aware that a little discomfort for him would save me a boat ton of pain for me.
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Addressing the other passenger in a direct, polite, and sensible manner is not allowed. Please leave.
 
Insomniator said:
I'm surprised airlines allow something like the knee defender, and repeated kicking would result in a fight in most cases. Hope you don't mind bothering women, children, or the elderly too. 🙄

Buy business class if you are too tall and can't handle reclined seats.
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they are not allowed. The attendants couldnt control the situation and the woman in the front seat took the matter into her own hands.
 
This is what flying use to be in the past,..
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This is what it's like today,..
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The device should not be use. As long as the seat is allowed to recline, then the customer on that seat is correct. I am about 5'10" with 32 long pants, average size/weight, and I did fly a lot (in and out of US) and I never have any problem with reclined seat in front of my seat of all airlines and no device was used on my seat (that I know of because I was able to recline my seat without problem).

I do like the idea of ALL seats (in economy) with no recline so no device, no fight (for now).

Another thing, airlines are making plans to squeeze even more seats in the same planes by thinner seats. Yike.
 
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