*Kitna named Superbowl MVP!* Official NFL 2013 Postseason thread

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mikegg

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Kap has no touch, that's his big problem. He can't throw a floater over the middle of the field to save his life.

Plus, he's about as dumb as it gets. AMDZen has a higher football IQ than Kaeperhole. Dude is a phenomenal athlete, and he made about 3 amazing plays today, but he's still "middling"

Kaep had a 4.0 GPA in high school. His wonderlic score was higher than Russell Wilson.
 

mikegg

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No. I still don't trust his arm and especially his clock management.

He's never going to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning but who cares? He's simply awesome in his own ways. He has big play ability with both his arm and his legs and he doesn't throw many interceptions.
 

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Kap has no touch, that's his big problem. He can't throw a floater over the middle of the field to save his life.

Plus, he's about as dumb as it gets. AMDZen has a higher football IQ than Kaeperhole. Dude is a phenomenal athlete, and he made about 3 amazing plays today, but he's still "middling"

his deep balls last year were nice and on target. this year it hasnt quite been there for whatever reason. It was REALLY off today, he couldnt hit a deep target if his life depended on it. all his deep balls were wobbly rainbows, it looked like Flacco was out there.
 

BUTCH1

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whew, glad the Niners could pull it off. It looked like Kap was tossing complete ducks out there, his legs made the difference.

And that's about it in a nutshell, he's well above average in arm strength, somewhat middling in accuracy, thing is you have to cover the receivers and when he see's everyone deep down-field in coverage he takes off like a jackrabbit, it's a ball-breaker for a D to get to a 3rd and 12 and have him pull that off, sure a coach could assign a "spy" on him for those situations but then your unable to cover the WR's as someone has to "stay home" and shadow him to try and stop his runs..
 

mikegg

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his deep balls last year were nice and on target. this year it hasnt quite been there for whatever reason. It was REALLY off today, he couldnt hit a deep target if his life depended on it. all his deep balls were wobbly rainbows, it looked like Flacco was out there.

Colin's deep ball has been good this year. He's hit Vernon Davis often this year for deep balls. This game was in near record low temps, no body expected great deep balls. Rodgers certainly didn't throw any either.
 

zinfamous

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his deep balls last year were nice and on target. this year it hasnt quite been there for whatever reason. It was REALLY off today, he couldnt hit a deep target if his life depended on it. all his deep balls were wobbly rainbows, it looked like Flacco was out there.

but it's not his deep ball--it's those throws between linebacker and safety that I'm talking about. He doesn't have that. He can't thread anything. He can't float anything.

No touch.

Deep throws are easy to defend, especially when your target also doesn't pose a threat up the middle.
 
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mikegg

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his deep balls last year were nice and on target. this year it hasnt quite been there for whatever reason. It was REALLY off today, he couldnt hit a deep target if his life depended on it. all his deep balls were wobbly rainbows, it looked like Flacco was out there.

And that's about it in a nutshell, he's well above average in arm strength, somewhat middling in accuracy, thing is you have to cover the receivers and when he see's everyone deep down-field in coverage he takes off like a jackrabbit, it's a ball-breaker for a D to get to a 3rd and 12 and have him pull that off, sure a coach could assign a "spy" on him for those situations but then your unable to cover the WR's as someone has to "stay home" and shadow him to try and stop his runs..
Fair assessment of Kaep.

He has one of the strongest arms among QBs but just average accuracy. Combine those with his legs, you get one heck of a QB.
 

mikegg

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but it's not his deep ball--it's those throws between linebacker and safety that I'm talking about. He doesn't have that. He can't thread anything. He can't float anything.

No touch.

He's actually good at those throws. Kaep has had a top 3 QB rating and top 3 QBR rating since Crabtree came back 6 weeks ago.

I understand what you're saying though. His passes always look like lasers which is unlike any other QB out there. But it works...
 

mikegg

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then why is he an idiot on the field?

Why is he an idiot on the field? Poor clock management? Yea, he's bad at that but this is technically just his 2nd season. He'll get better with time.

Idiots are QBs that throw interceptions like nothing such as Eli Manning, Andy Dalton, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Mathew Stafford.

Kaep has a 21 to 8 interception ratio this year. And he did it without Crabtree most of the year and he had to play the Seahawks twice. No body escapes Seatle without throwing at least a couple of picks.

Since Crabtree has come back, Kaepernick is 12-2 in TD-INT ratio.

Why is Kaep an idiot? Bring some facts.
 

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Either you're trolling or you're just not very smart or both.

Kaep just an average QB? Is that why he went to the superbowl? Why he had one of the best QBR ratings in 2012? Why he had one of the best QBR ratings in 2013 despite missing his best receiver? Why he rushed for 98 yards and Rodgers rushed for zero? Why he simply outplayed Rodgers, the best QB in the game, the last 3 times they played?

Smith is a better QB? Really? With a far lower QBR rating and lower QB rating this year? And if Smith had to play against Seatle twice, his numbers would look like far worse this season.

Come on son. You need to troll better than that. At least come with some facts.

Good thing you like to cherry pick his best stats. Kaep's percent completion has him 31 out of 37 NFL qbs this year.

He has to run as he can't throw for shit and his 58% completion ratio shows that. Look at Wilson who uses his run to open the field up and get more good quality throws. That brings not only his completion percent up but also gets him more yards per throw and more TD to INTs as well compared to Kaep.

Kaep also averaged 200yards a game, that puts him 32 out of 37 qbs in 2013.

So yes right now Kaep is a slightly above average QB. That is not a bad thing if the rest of the team and defense especially plays well. Its the reason the bears gave Cutler, another slightly above average QB, a lot of money. They may not be able to carry the team but they are still as good or better than any other option they have. Build the rest of the team up and you still win.
 

rudeguy

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Wait, don't tell me you're putting Chiefs' loss on AS11? You can't be serious...

Edit: I ventured over to Arrowheadpride, and you just want to punch a kitten for some of the comments they made.

No! That's not the point I was making. I was picking on the nerds who think QB rating means more than winning
 

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I figure anyone that has to call a timeout coming out of halftime before even calling a play wins the idiot award.
 

zinfamous

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Colin's deep ball has been good this year. He's hit Vernon Davis often this year for deep balls. This game was in near record low temps, no body expected great deep balls. Rodgers certainly didn't throw any either.

did you watch that game? Rodgers had at least 2 big bombs off of his back heel, trotting backwards or falling to the ground. One of them was batted away in the arms of the receiver, but the throw was a 40 yard+ laser between two defenders and into the chest of his guy. --and this is a guy throwing with a broken collarbone. I think Kaeperdingle would pull himself out of the game if one of his tattoos got smudged.

Kap had some decent tosses, I give him that and yes the cold is always a factor, but when he missed long, damn was it ugly.

He's stupid because he doesn't give all hsi guys the looks they need, he doesn't always throw it to the right places. He's more "run or make a play" first than he is "make the right play." This is the opposite of a guy like Wilson, who is there to make the right play and create plays when they need to be created. also a low INT, throw-away QB that doesn't force anything.

And, well, I call into question your assessment of his QBR this season. I suspect you have it weighted to certain weeks--you know, the weeks you think are "fair" to assess him.
 
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SSSnail

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I don't think that was Kaep's fault calling that timeout, it was Bolding, lined up wrong, and he was confused as to what he needed to do and where he needed to be.
 

mikegg

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Good thing you like to cherry pick his best stats. Kaep's percent completion has him 31 out of 37 NFL qbs this year.

He has to run as he can't throw for shit and his 58% completion ratio shows that. Look at Wilson who uses his run to open the field up and get more good quality throws. That brings not only his completion percent up but also gets him more yards per throw and more TD to INTs as well compared to Kaep.

Kaep also averaged 200yards a game, that puts him 32 out of 37 qbs in 2013.

So yes right now Kaep is a slightly above average QB. That is not a bad thing if the rest of the team and defense especially plays well. Its the reason the bears gave Cutler, another slightly above average QB, a lot of money. They may not be able to carry the team but they are still as good or better than any other option they have. Build the rest of the team up and you still win.
You accuse me of cherry picking stats but you go ahead and cherry stats that really don't matter? Do you even know what QBR is? It's an overall metric for a QB. Completion % is NOT an overall metric.

It's a joke to use completion % to justify to the better QB is.

And it's already been mentioned that Kaep lost Michael Crabtree, the best receiver on the Niners team. All their other WRs were junk except for Boldin. Now that Crabtree is back, Kaep has been one of the most efficient QBs in the game.

And your boy Russell Wilson? Kaep had a higher QBR this season than Wilson did.
 

rudeguy

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then why is he an idiot on the field?

I'm a genius on paper. No really. ..I was in the gifted class because of it. I don't drop numbers but I qualify.

Follow me around for a day and at times I make Homer Simpson look like Einstein. I forget more than I remember. I miss steps and overlook simple solutions. But I figure things out. To me not figuring something out is losing and I hate losing. I can see that in Kaepernick. He might not do things perfect but he finds a way to do them.
 

mikegg

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did you watch that game? Rodgers had at least 2 big bombs off of his back heel, trotting backwards or falling to the ground. One of them was batted away in the arms of the receiver, but the throw was a 40 yard+ laser between two defenders and into the chest of his guy.

Kap had some decent tosses, I give him that and yes the cold is always a factor, but when he missed long, damn was it ugly.

He's stupid because he doesn't give all hsi guys the looks they need, he doesn't always throw it to the right places. He's more "run or make a play" first than he is "make the right play."

And, well, I call into question your assessment of his QBR this season. I suspect you have it weighted to certain weeks--you know, the weeks you think are "fair" to assess him.

You clearly don't watch 49ers games if you think Kaep is a run first QB. Now I know you're just trolling off of one game and I will not argue with you anymore.

But I will leave you with this:

Kaep still outplayed Rodgers this game.

Kaep QBR this game: 88
Rodgers QBR this game: 57
 

mikegg

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I figure anyone that has to call a timeout coming out of halftime before even calling a play wins the idiot award.

Well, then what do you call a QB who has outplayed Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the game, 3 straight times and sent him home twice?
 

zinfamous

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And your boy Russell Wilson? Kaep had a higher QBR this season than Wilson did.

And pretty much everyone but you that watches football knows that Russell Wilson is a much better quarterback.

...what exactly is your point?

I really don't think you watch the games