*Kitna named Superbowl MVP!* Official NFL 2013 Postseason thread

[Wreckem]

The leader of the one-and-done Seattle LOB would just tweet back: league leading 46% passer rating against, least targeted DB in the league, league leader in interceptions. Also most INTs in the league last three seasons. Football is a team sport, as Sherman says a lot, and would point to the LOB's fewest pass yards against, league best interceptions, best passer rating against.

Any way you cut it Sherman and the LOB are really, really good and elevated their team to the Super Bowl. Wasn't this team supposed to be one-and-done?

Seattle has a nasty D. Its like they have a defense that is comprised of only people that have the attitude and aggressiveness as the Honey Badger. And they use that attitude and aggressiveness on every play. I mean for fucks sake, the Honey Badger is undersized for the NFL but he was pretty productive because of his attitude and aggressiveness on every play. Well that was at least until his injury.Watching him in college was comical with what he did to offenses. Its like Seattle has a whole pack of him, except their defenders aren't as undersized. There is no other defensive unit in the league that has the same attitude and aggressiveness as Seattle's unit. Sure they are heavily penalized, but it works extremely well.

 

[smackababy]

The leader of the one-and-done Seattle LOB would just tweet back: league leading 46% passer rating against, least targeted DB in the league, league leader in interceptions. Also most INTs in the league last three seasons. Football is a team sport, as Sherman says a lot, and would point to the LOB's fewest pass yards against, league best interceptions, best passer rating against.

Any way you cut it Sherman and the LOB are really, really good and elevated their team to the Super Bowl. Wasn't this team supposed to be one-and-done?

He could just retweet "Sherman, tied for 1st in DBs going to the SB this year."

 

[smackababy]

Seattle has a nasty D. Its like they have a defense that is loaded with people that have the attitude and aggressiveness as the Honey Badger. And they use that attitude and aggressiveness on every play. I mean for fucks sake, the Honey Badger is undersized for the NFL but he was really productive because of his attitude and aggressiveness on every play. Well that was at least until his injury. Its like Seattle has a whole pack or him, except they aren't as undersized.

It is like Carroll took a bunch of receivers and told them they weren't good enough to play offense, and they are mad about it!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The leader of the one-and-done Seattle LOB would just tweet back: league leading 46% passer rating against, least targeted DB in the league, league leader in interceptions. Also most INTs in the league last three seasons. Football is a team sport, as Sherman says a lot, and would point to the LOB's fewest pass yards against, league best interceptions, best passer rating against.

Any way you cut it Sherman and the LOB are really, really good and elevated their team to the Super Bowl. Wasn't this team supposed to be one-and-done?

Wilson is a classy guy. I couldn't care less for the rest of the Seahawks and their douchey coach Carroll. Sherman made a complete ass out of himself on TV and there was no excuse for it.

 

[Retro Rob]

Yes, his on field & "football" personae is pretty bad.

Off the field he is an extremely intelligent person and he does a lot to promote education to under privileged kids.

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True, but that doesn't mean he cannot be stupid. IIRC, someone was defending his stupid behavior by reminding us that he cannot be a "thug" because he went to Stanford.

So, thugs can't be educated?

 

[Childs]

True, but that doesn't mean he cannot be stupid. IIRC, someone was defending his stupid behavior by reminding us that he cannot be a "thug" because he went to Stanford.

So, thugs can't be educated?

That would make him a villain, not a thug!

 

[Retro Rob]

That would make him a villain, not a thug!

He reminds me of the type of moron who thinks that, as a black man, he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background...if someone calls him and idiot, he can throw his Stanford education out there like he constantly and arrogantly kept throwing "all-pro" and "12 picks" at Skip Bayless last March.

I don't care how educated he think he is, you're still an idiot for going at Crabtree. And Crabtree isn't "mediocre".

 

[Ban Bot]

He reminds me of the type of moron who thinks that, as a black man, he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background...if someone calls him and idiot, he can throw his Stanford education out there like he constantly and arrogantly kept throwing "all-pro" and "12 picks" at Skip Bayless last March.

I don't care how educated he think he is, you're still an idiot for going at Crabtree. And Crabtree isn't "mediocre".

And Sherman was right about the racial subtext.

Seriously, there are a lot of trash talking pro athletes. Sherman thinking, "he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background" has nothing to do with him being "a black man".

He thinks he can get away with trash talking and hyperbole because he fosters a persona, real or otherwise, of a an elite "look at me" over the top trash talker that fuels his game and has made his name one of the best known in the NFL.

It has nothing to do with his color. Or his education.

 

[Retro Rob]

And Sherman was right about the racial subtext.

It's not rocket science -- he knows what kind of world he lives in.

Seriously, there are a lot of trash talking pro athletes. Sherman thinking, "he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background" has nothing to do with him being "a black man".

I think it does. It's not because I have some sort of "special insight", though sharing the same race he does, however, people (and himself included) seem awfully quick to throw his Stanford ed out there when they label his trash-talking "thuggish".

That's why I hold this opinion. It's like folks seem to say: "how can he be labled "thuggish", or "stupid"...he went to Stanford"?

 

[smackababy]

He reminds me of the type of moron who thinks that, as a black man, he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background...if someone calls him and idiot, he can throw his Stanford education out there like he constantly and arrogantly kept throwing "all-pro" and "12 picks" at Skip Bayless last March.

I don't care how educated he think he is, you're still an idiot for going at Crabtree. And Crabtree isn't "mediocre".

Crabtree is pretty mediocre. He is not a top 10 receiver and is not even the best on his team. And Crabtree publicly remarked that not only did he know nothing about defensive backs, but that Sherman wasn't the number 1. So, he knows enough to know Sherman isn't number one, but not enough to comment on any other. And then look at the game. Crabtree was shut down. 4 receptions for 52 yards. Yeah... Granted, he was only a yard behind SF's top receiver that game.

After talking about how someone isn't the best DB in the league, and then performing like that, PLUS having that previously talked about DB stop you from making the game winning catch; yeah, Sherman was fine "targeting" Crabtree. Same as nobody made a fuss about Steve Smith saying he was going to punch Janoris Jenkins in the mouth.

You jaw in the media, then jaw all game, and then get put in your place, the pop offs will happen.

 

[Ban Bot]

Wilson is a classy guy. I couldn't care less for the rest of the Seahawks and their douchey coach Carroll. Sherman made a complete ass out of himself on TV and there was no excuse for it.

Come on man, you cannot seriously mean, "I couldn't care less for the rest of the Seahawks" after the deaf Fullback's (Coleman's) Duracell battery advert. I know it is going to be uber popular to complain about Seattle--they hold, they cheat, they smoke pot, they take PEDs, Carroll should have known Bush's parents got a house and should have stayed for sanctions, etc etc--but the team has a lot of great stories and great players. Like any other team. But hate away because I think that is what their defense wants

Odd how we moved from Sherman's trash talk, some PFF stats showing he is top 10 (quick! tweet him he is not #1 per PFF), I responded with a number of impressive stats defending his claim that someone devolved into slamming all the Seahawks except Wilson.

It is going to be a chippy 2 weeks!

 

[Childs]

He reminds me of the type of moron who thinks that, as a black man, he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background...if someone calls him and idiot, he can throw his Stanford education out there like he constantly and arrogantly kept throwing "all-pro" and "12 picks" at Skip Bayless last March.

I don't care how educated he think he is, you're still an idiot for going at Crabtree. And Crabtree isn't "mediocre".

What does that have to do with being a black man? I dont think I've ever heard of him using that as justification for anything.

And Sherman was right about the racial subtext.

Seriously, there are a lot of trash talking pro athletes. Sherman thinking, "he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background" has nothing to do with him being "a black man".

He thinks he can get away with trash talking and hyperbole because he fosters a persona, real or otherwise, of a an elite "look at me" over the top trash talker that fuels his game and has made his name one of the best known in the NFL.

It has nothing to do with his color. Or his education.

A lot of people just see color:

http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-shit-about-richard-sherm-1504843629

And people like to throw that thug label around. All he is doing is talking. Wes Welker is more of a thug than Sherman.

 

[smackababy]

What does that have to do with being a black man? I dont think I've ever heard of him using that as justification for anything.



A lot of people just see color:

http://deadspin.com/dumb-people-say-stupid-racist-shit-about-richard-sherm-1504843629

And people like to throw that thug label around. All he is doing is talking. Wes Welker is more of a thug than Sherman.

The best part about that article is when it talks about professional wrestling heel because my friend immediately commented to me that Sherman is the 3rd member of the Harlem Heat and should have responded with "Manning, we comin' for you n*gga!"

For that that don't get the reference, the Harlem Heat were a tag team consisting of Booker T and Stevie Ray. During an interview, live on television, Booker T (who bears quite a resemblance to Sherman) said "Hogan, we comin' for you n*gga!", accidentally using a racial slur on TV. He immediately looked rather embarrassed to have just said that. I am sure there are numerous clips on youtube about it.

 

[Wreckem]

He reminds me of the type of moron who thinks that, as a black man, he can get away with irrational behavior because of his educational background...if someone calls him and idiot, he can throw his Stanford education out there like he constantly and arrogantly kept throwing "all-pro" and "12 picks" at Skip Bayless last March.

I don't care how educated he think he is, you're still an idiot for going at Crabtree. And Crabtree isn't "mediocre".

Crabtree was IIRC a top 10 draft pick. He has failed to live up to his draft status and will likely never be a true #1 receiver. He'll always be a #2. Maybe mediocre isn't the right choice. But he is not an elite Wide Receiver at the NFL level. And he played for my alma mater so it is not like I am biased against him.

 

[vi edit]

Crabtree is a highly skilled posession receiver. He's not a downfield burner (AJ Green) or a Jump ball guy (Calvin Johnson). He's a guy that when you *need* a first down you pin him to the sideline or bring him over the middle and let his hands do the work.

 

[Anubis]

early nineties if I remember.

they said on SC last night it had been 20 years, so thats prob correct

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Come on man, you cannot seriously mean, "I couldn't care less for the rest of the Seahawks" after the deaf Fullback's (Coleman's) Duracell battery advert. I know it is going to be uber popular to complain about Seattle--they hold, they cheat, they smoke pot, they take PEDs, Carroll should have known Bush's parents got a house and should have stayed for sanctions, etc etc--but the team has a lot of great stories and great players. Like any other team. But hate away because I think that is what their defense wants

Odd how we moved from Sherman's trash talk, some PFF stats showing he is top 10 (quick! tweet him he is not #1 per PFF), I responded with a number of impressive stats defending his claim that someone devolved into slamming all the Seahawks except Wilson.

It is going to be a chippy 2 weeks!

I was also joking. No doubt Sherman would've had another meltdown if someone tweeted that. I didn't care for the Seahawks before Sherman's outburst, but his behavior certainly removed all doubts.

Oh, and BTW, Sherman's Stanford degree was in Communications. That's especially comical given his meltdown.

 

[smackababy]

Crabtree is a highly skilled posession receiver. He's not a downfield burner (AJ Green) or a Jump ball guy (Calvin Johnson). He's a guy that when you *need* a first down you pin him to the sideline or bring him over the middle and let his hands do the work.

I seem to recall quite a few times when SF needed a first down and Crabtree was nowhere to be found. 4 receptions on 8 targets for 52 yards. He was shut down. So, even if he IS a top 10 receiver, that means Seattle's DBs are simply that much better.

And at that crucial point in the game where a play absolutely had to be made, Sherman made it right in the face of Crabtree. Crabtree didn't jump over, muscle around, miracle snatch, or anything else to get that ball. Sherman, on the other hand, timed his jump perfectly, and got that ball from Crabtrees hands in the exact moment it had to be to go to the Super Bowl. I don't care what your stats are, if you can't perform when it matters the most, you're mediocre at best.

 

[smackababy]

Oh, and BTW, Sherman's Stanford degree was in Communications. That's especially comical given his meltdown.

I think he communicated fairly well that he was better than Crabtree and going to the Super Bowl. >_>

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I think he communicated fairly well that he was better than Crabtree and going to the Super Bowl. >_>

LOL, true.

 

[Childs]

The best part about that article is when it talks about professional wrestling heel because my friend immediately commented to me that Sherman is the 3rd member of the Harlem Heat and should have responded with "Manning, we comin' for you n*gga!"

For that that don't get the reference, the Harlem Heat were a tag team consisting of Booker T and Stevie Ray. During an interview, live on television, Booker T (who bears quite a resemblance to Sherman) said "Hogan, we comin' for you n*gga!", accidentally using a racial slur on TV. He immediately looked rather embarrassed to have just said that. I am sure there are numerous clips on youtube about it.

Yeah, its like he is channeling Clubber Lang from Rocky III.

 

[Retro Rob]

Crabtree is pretty mediocre. He is not a top 10 receiver and is not even the best on his team. And Crabtree publicly remarked that not only did he know nothing about defensive backs, but that Sherman wasn't the number 1. So, he knows enough to know Sherman isn't number one, but not enough to comment on any other. And then look at the game. Crabtree was shut down. 4 receptions for 52 yards. Yeah... Granted, he was only a yard behind SF's top receiver that game.

After talking about how someone isn't the best DB in the league, and then performing like that, PLUS having that previously talked about DB stop you from making the game winning catch; yeah, Sherman was fine "targeting" Crabtree. Same as nobody made a fuss about Steve Smith saying he was going to punch Janoris Jenkins in the mouth.

You jaw in the media, then jaw all game, and then get put in your place, the pop offs will happen.

True.

Crab said that was Sherman's only play...is that true? I saw all the game, but didn't hear Sherman's name really.

 

[manly]

True.

Crab said that was Sherman's only play...is that true? I saw all the game, but didn't hear Sherman's name really.

supposedly Sherman was targeted just twice all game. Hmmm, if so the first time was early when he held Crabtree on a short route and got called for the penalty.

I honestly don't know how good he is compared to Darelle Revis or Deion back in the day but the stat is pretty amazing. Least targeted CB, AND still has the most INTs this season?

 

[Retro Rob]

supposedly Sherman was targeted just twice all game. Hmmm, if so the first time was early when he held Crabtree on a short route and got called for the penalty.

I honestly don't know how good he is compared to Darelle Revis or Deion back in the day but the stat is pretty amazing. Least targeted CB, AND still has the most INTs this season?

I hate comparing second and third year players to players like Sanders. Right now, he isn't in the same league and Deion, and can just be mentioned with Revis, but barely.

He could easily lose all the help he has, or turn into another Namdi Asumuah (butchered that name, but you know who I mean).

 

[zinfamous]

supposedly Sherman was targeted just twice all game. Hmmm, if so the first time was early when he held Crabtree on a short route and got called for the penalty.

I honestly don't know how good he is compared to Darelle Revis or Deion back in the day but the stat is pretty amazing. Least targeted CB, AND still has the most INTs this season?

and that's the point of a shutdown corner. You get targeted so few times because your coverage is that good. I believe he was called for a hold early on, which is certainly part of his game. Sherman's job is to eliminate that option, which he does very well.