King Obama to rule again: Imigration

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Orignal Earl

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You know those big long concrete sections they premake to build bridges and roads with? Take those, make the sides interlocking, turn them vertical, plant one end in the ground, barbed wire (or electric) on the top and bam. Throw in some sensors for good measure and you just stopped all but the best and most dedicated.

Obviously we can never stop 100%. If we wait until we have a 100% guarantee to do things we would never do anything. There isn't a 100% chance that you will survive getting your mail, doesn't stop you from doing it though does it?

I scrolled right past your post, sorry about that.
I basically live right on the Can/Am border. There has been hundreds of times while walking along it, that out of no where, in the middle of nowhere, a border patrol truck will show up and check us out.
I have to wonder if there is not already at least motion detectors along the whole thing.
Speaking of walls, check these guys get over one with a little teamwork

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werepossum

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I admitted I could of phrased it better in one of the edits above.
But really I see nothing wrong with the way I did it in the first place
I said a majority.
They are one of the majorities of groups.
Not the majority
:D Dude, just admit you fucked up and were wrong. We've all been there, and it really doesn't hurt. Ain't been but one perfect man and frankly I'm not taking any chances of doing anything that might get me nailed to anything.

Except maybe Salma Hayek. Or Sophia Vergara. Or Julie Bowen . . .

C'mon it's OK to admit you were wrong.

You clearly said asians are are majority of gangs and illegals. We have that on quote just above.

Nothing about ebonics or grammar here - just a simple black and white statement.

We're also the most successful minorities in the states, yet no one really cares about us from a legal immigration perspective.

That being said Canada has a way better immigration system than the states, and if things don't change here (or change the wrong way) I'll be heading north :)

Hell they just opened up skilled immigration for people like me.. I don't even need a job, just adequate work experience, good scores, and a clean record.

I have that here, and guess what? I have a 25 year wait while law breakers get de-facto amnesty.

Also Canadian CBP officers >>>>>>>>> the friendliest US CBP officer (of which there aren't many.) It's almost as if they pick racists and xenophobes for those positions here in the states.

Huh, maybe I should applying to Canada now!!!
So successful in the states that we have to penalize you to protect good, honest (read: lazy) whites, blacks and Hispanics in university admissions. 'Cause damn it, we're entitled to those spots!

I can remember Katrina when the media interviewed this young black man, sitting with his arm around his white girl friend saying "Ain't nothing changed. That bus, it wasn't nice, it was just like a slave ship. Ain't nothing changed." Then they interviewed a white woman saying "Where's my FEMA trailer?" Then they showed a Vietnamese family whose house was literally gone, sifting through the debris and sweeping the sidewalk in front of their lot. They had a pathetic little pile of dishes and such they had painstaking pulled from the rubble. I can still remember thinking "Damn it, go get me a few million just like them and I'll save the fucking country."

Of course, to be honest they probably didn't show the Hispanics because they were already lining up to get the jobs removing the debris and rebuilding. :D
 

Zebo

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You misunderstand my point about offshoring.

I'm hoping Pity-Party Americans will wake the fuck up sometime soon, or at least another generation will come along that will.

If we want to keep good paying jobs here, we have to as a nation QUALIFY for them. We have to compete. We have to make this a place that people want to do business in. We have to not only keep our businesses here, we have to attract businesses from other countries to come here.

We're not doing any of that by sitting around whining, expecting everyone else in the world to pity us. Other people elsewhere laugh at us- many ARE competing for the jobs, and convincing business that it makes more sense to be where they are, than here.

As our culture embraces stupidity and class-envy bullshit over actual skill and being truly competitive- we get what we deserve. We get to be the new third world, and others get to be the new first world. As the numbers go- and from a business standpoint, this actually makes sense. I as a a business person, can make a fuck of a lot more money using 300 million plus third-worlders in the US to make things for 4 or 5 BILLION wanna-be first worlders elsewhere in this world. And those people are ALL FOR IT. They aren't going to say to me "No, no, we'll just stay poor. We won't compete for those jobs. We'll keep it the opposite way it is now... because you special people in the US deserve it! You're naturally superior! Your way of life is guaranteed- not because it makes any financial sense for anyone to guarantee it, not because the numbers make any fucking sense, and not because you in ANY way actually qualify for it with your culture of FUCKING STUPIDITY... but just... BECAUSE."

Yeah right.

As for onshoring third-world poverty- we get what we deserve there too. If people are just going to kick back and actually buy the horeseshit that that's good for us- then that's what they get.

But offshoring is a negative gain for our country. We can never compete with slave world environmentally unsound places unless we become like them. We have chosen top down that we don't want to but policy does not support this choice so instead of paying people well and keeping jobs here we pay them to sit at home and import goods made by slave labor and destruction of environment. We also destroy communities sociologically who don't know what work is anymore among other things but thats another thread. Bottom line is we took the high road but don't use our absolute advantage to enforce it with tariffs and multinationals can play cheap labor environmental destruction wonderland at everyone's expense and reap enormous profit.

It's really identical to open borders. Here we say we want good wages and more of a percent profit of our labors but policy support a labor glut driving down wages and opportunity due to supply and demand.


To me it's clear as day what's happening. Capital world wide wants it to be a system of patronage for them and theirs like its always been..economic feudalism.. USA Europe and Japan presented a threat to that world order in the late 20th century and they mean to correct that. Moving towards egalitarianism - we used to be an example for others to emulate and raise tides within and we demanded others be the same before trade commenced. Now we are all going China model. If one govts people gets uppity they will shut down facilities and move to next who are deliriously happy for scraps they get. They flood first world with impoverished immigrants and if you dont like it they are quick to call you racist. What's gonna happen is a world wide slave market with low opportunity, low pay, and birth dictates wealth and power like it always has except for that brief period in time in the 20th century.
 
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Darwin333

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Please explain why we would even want a monstrosity of tyranny like that. Walls that keep people out just as easily keep them in.

Shrug, I usually fly to Mexico. Would have to be one seriously tall wall to effect the planes flightpath.
 

Orignal Earl

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:D Dude, just admit you fucked up and were wrong. We've all been there, and it really doesn't hurt. Ain't been but one perfect man and frankly I'm not taking any chances of doing anything that might get me nailed to anything.

I've admitted I've been wrong plenty of times here. Look at my posts, I'm open and honest about everything. With all my pictures etc, I'm one of the several realest people here in P&N

A man can't grow if your the type who is never wrong.
 
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Darwin333

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I scrolled right past your post, sorry about that.
I basically live right on the Can/Am border. There has been hundreds of times while walking along it, that out of no where, in the middle of nowhere, a border patrol truck will show up and check us out.
I have to wonder if there is not already at least motion detectors along the whole thing.
Speaking of walls, check these guys get over one with a little teamwork

Some+next+level+team+work....+What+language_157da6_5201402.gif

Like I said, there will always be little ninja fuckers like in that gif that can defeat a system. As I said earlier in my post, if we waited until something was absolutely 100% perfect before doing it we wouldn't do, build, develop, or even interact.

It's akin to saying that its a good idea to never go on a date until you are absolutely 100% sure that you found the person you are going to marry. It's absurd, we don't need absolute perfection we just need good enough. If a fence would stem 90% of the illegals from crossing the border then, imho, its working perfectly.
 
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I posted that, then walked over to the grocery store.
On my way I past a group of about five guys, very colorful assortment, minus a white guy.
Gave them the usual smile and a G'day and was greeted back with huge smiles and a assorted mix of stuff I couldn't understand.
After another half block, I thought shit, I just missed a great selfie I could of took with them and posted here. Oh well, next time

It's also occurred to me that when I'm saying major problem it could be very misleading, because Van is a beautiful peaceful place where 99.9999% of people get along great. ;)

Well, it might only be 97% of the time...

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Darwin333

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Or a laser wall. To, you know, protect us from flying Guatemalans . . .

Ooh, you're on to something now! We can launch a bunch of satellites with bad ass laser arrays on it. They can create one of those moving laser fence thingys like in Resident Evil. The only way over the wall would be via orbit or pretty deep underground.
 

Orignal Earl

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Like I said, there will always be little ninja fuckers like in that gif that can defeat a system. As I said earlier in my post, if we waited until something was absolutely 100% perfect before doing it we wouldn't do, build, develop, or even interact.

It's akin to saying that its a good idea to never go on a date until you are absolutely 100% sure that you found the person you are going to marry. It's absurd, we don't need absolute perfection we just need good enough. If a fence would stem 90% of the illegals from crossing the border then, imho, its working perfectly.

Ninjas ? No no
That's something you and a couple of buddies could do with some practice.

I don't know about your wall. If things ever really go to shit down there though, and people start calling for a wall up here. I'll oppose it and help coyote you guys through
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werepossum

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Ooh, you're on to something now! We can launch a bunch of satellites with bad ass laser arrays on it. They can create one of those moving laser fence thingys like in Resident Evil. The only way over the wall would be via orbit or pretty deep underground.
Works for me, defeat the orbital laser wall and gain instant citizenship. It's like those Cubans who built a raft, drove a truck onto it, and built a propeller drive driven by the bare wheel. Or that hot Mexican chick who actually got inside a truck dash. At some point, enough ingenuity and guts ought to earn you a waiver.
 

Zorkorist

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It's like honey, drip, drip, drip.

We are spending so much more than we take in, that someday people will wake up, and say, we're broke!

Until then, Welcome to America!

-John
 

michal1980

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I scrolled right past your post, sorry about that.
I basically live right on the Can/Am border. There has been hundreds of times while walking along it, that out of no where, in the middle of nowhere, a border patrol truck will show up and check us out.
I have to wonder if there is not already at least motion detectors along the whole thing.
Speaking of walls, check these guys get over one with a little teamwork

Some+next+level+team+work....+What+language_157da6_5201402.gif

yes all those old moms and kids are going to be able to pull that off.

Please tell me how having this kids and single moms helps the USA?


........ waiting.

That's right, no benefit.
 

Zorkorist

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LOL, Tell who, about what?!

You imagine that you can tell anyone about something, when Government steals from you, or funds you?

You have absolutely no basis. You are as corrupt as our Government is.

-John
 

DucatiMonster696

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Tell me about the contribution you make to the USA

I don't know maybe that poster has contributed to society in this country by.....NOT BREAKING THE LAW.

Then again your question is akin to questioning someone's patriotism when cornered.
 
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Darwin333

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Ninjas ? No no
That's something you and a couple of buddies could do with some practice.

I don't know about your wall. If things ever really go to shit down there though, and people start calling for a wall up here. I'll oppose it and help coyote you guys through
;)

$100 if you post a vid of you and your buddies doing that to get over a 15' tall wall that is topped with barbed wire.
 

Zaap

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But offshoring is a negative gain for our country. We can never compete with slave world environmentally unsound places unless we become like them.
This is just more "we're superior to everyone else!" thinking because its been repeated so often that people just turn their brains off and spout it without even a thought.

Why does a good job worthy of having in the US instantly become a "slave job" because it's no longer done in the US?

Answer: (say it with me now, you KNOW you believe it, so much it comes out of your mouth without even a seconds thought) because if its done here in the states its being done by we, the most superior people on earth! It's a great job automattically.

The instant it goes anywhere else... its a crap job. Being done by some form of INFERIOR. some slave. Someone with a 2nd grade education. Some dirty, slimy person who can't possibly measure up to a superior American, and so AUTOMATICALLY only has the job vs an American because not only are they a filthy slave, they and their whole culture are forever content to be that way.

Something like that, right?

So superior Americans can't compete with inferior foreigners! We can't bring ourselves down from our pedestals to the level of any other slime on this planet.

This is just a given. Always has been, always will be.


So given this indisputable law of the universe (US worker #1 in the world at education, skill, value to employers, desirability in a workforce vs everyone else: grungy slaves- all of this ofcourse backed up by not a single official stat anywhere, but that doesn't matter) Americans being special, with all our special powers, require special rules of competition unique to us. Our awesome jobs, designed around our unique awesomeness need to be guaranteed for us. I mean, even though we're more awesome than anyone else who can only compete based on enslaving themselves....we still need our birthright jobs artificially protected for us because for some unfathomable reason no one can figure out... businesses that offshore don't seem to hold the superiority of the US worker in high enough regard that it keeps them from saying "buh bye. So long."

If we're really so fucking special in this country that we collectively deserve 5x the pay of all those savage elsewhere... why don't we collectively get off our asses and fucking PROVE it?

This idea that we always have to compete based on slave labor is total bullshit. We need to get back to being the obvious choice for whatever industries we're worried about losing... and actually ARE losing. That means being the best at it, and making it an insane proposition that anyone would go elsewhere besides here to run that industry. All the stats that say we're the: best educated, most skilled, hardest working, most bang for the buck have to actually be there... in reality... not just in our over-inflated imaginations of ourselves.

And all if this IS ofcourse tied to the whole illegal labor issue. A nation that wants to keep its high paying jobs simply CANNOT give up all of its blue collar jobs to illegal labor. We're just pulling the rug out from under ourselves.

It's sad to me: take the example of labor unions.

Too many dimwits these days think a union is nothing more than another wing of the political party they worship, for the purpose of delivering votes and power to politicians.

The idea of it representing workers who band together and demand a higher wage is a distant back burner thing.

But in their original role, most people can understand that a union of workers is supposed to protect ALL jobs within the union. Theres a LINE that outsiders can't cross just because you can wander across it. "Hey, I'll do this lowly mechanic's job for half what this loser is charging! Hire me!"

Someone else in the union higher up doesn't roll over and go for that, just because it isn't his cushy job being turned to shit. The line is drawn... no one crosses it. The highest person protects even the lowest person's job from invasion because they understand where the line is, and that to undermine the bottom is to alllow the whole industry to undermine the whole shebang.

Nations have lines drawn too... borders. But too few understand its the same thing: you allow someone to cross that line and turn someone elses job into shit, eventually the domino effect will reach your level as well.

Instead of understanding that, we have a lot of people cheering on illegal labor over the line... go ahead, do someone else's job for peanuts. Doesn't affect me....I'm special. Management that will sell those lowly peons below me out for illegal labor will never do that to me! I'm special!

All of what were seeing happen is part of the same problems...people that think they're too special to ever get hit by reality....will eventually get hit hard by it.
 
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