King Obama to rule again: Imigration

[squarecut1]

Kind of amusing that the "classic definition of racism" is independent of race, huh? But hey, as long as it diverges from the party line - racism!

Ok, I'll bite.

What does the semantic matter? There are some ignorant people out there who hate Americans, well, just because they are Americans. Any Americans. They equate Americans with the foreign policy of our government. Now is American a race? No.

I have made my position clear over the past several posts on this topic. About the right, Republican party and all. No need to go over the same thing again.

Just so that you know, I have no love for the standard left or right. They both play their own cards all the time, both have their own pet constituencies. Neither is interested in what is good for this country.

There ARE people who you can't box into labels. Think about it sometime when you have some free time.

 

[Zaap]

Problem with zaap he's only half right (and inconsistent mind you) he's all about off-shoring but hates open borders.

You misunderstand my point about offshoring.

I'm hoping Pity-Party Americans will wake the fuck up sometime soon, or at least another generation will come along that will.

If we want to keep good paying jobs here, we have to as a nation QUALIFY for them. We have to compete. We have to make this a place that people want to do business in. We have to not only keep our businesses here, we have to attract businesses from other countries to come here.

We're not doing any of that by sitting around whining, expecting everyone else in the world to pity us. Other people elsewhere laugh at us- many ARE competing for the jobs, and convincing business that it makes more sense to be where they are, than here.

As our culture embraces stupidity and class-envy bullshit over actual skill and being truly competitive- we get what we deserve. We get to be the new third world, and others get to be the new first world. As the numbers go- and from a business standpoint, this actually makes sense. I as a a business person, can make a fuck of a lot more money using 300 million plus third-worlders in the US to make things for 4 or 5 BILLION wanna-be first worlders elsewhere in this world. And those people are ALL FOR IT. They aren't going to say to me "No, no, we'll just stay poor. We won't compete for those jobs. We'll keep it the opposite way it is now... because you special people in the US deserve it! You're naturally superior! Your way of life is guaranteed- not because it makes any financial sense for anyone to guarantee it, not because the numbers make any fucking sense, and not because you in ANY way actually qualify for it with your culture of FUCKING STUPIDITY... but just... BECAUSE."

Yeah right.

As for onshoring third-world poverty- we get what we deserve there too. If people are just going to kick back and actually buy the horeseshit that that's good for us- then that's what they get.

 

[Darwin333]

Can you describe the type of fence you want?

You know those big long concrete sections they premake to build bridges and roads with? Take those, make the sides interlocking, turn them vertical, plant one end in the ground, barbed wire (or electric) on the top and bam. Throw in some sensors for good measure and you just stopped all but the best and most dedicated.

Obviously we can never stop 100%. If we wait until we have a 100% guarantee to do things we would never do anything. There isn't a 100% chance that you will survive getting your mail, doesn't stop you from doing it though does it?

 

[Svnla]

Also the race that results in a majority of gangs and illegals

Reliable/well know link(s) or source(s) to back up your statement, eh?

The largest proportion of youth gang members are African Canadian (25%), followed by First Nations (21%) and Caucasian (18%)

http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/gngs-cnd/index-eng.aspx

 

[Orignal Earl]

Reliable/well know link(s) or source(s) to back up your statement, eh?



http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/gngs-cnd/index-eng.aspx

lol
Do you deny that the Asian pop in America has a gang problem too? Or are a large part of the illegal immigrants?
What kind of people are in the Triad for instance?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_Canada

http://globalnews.ca/news/364043/americans-top-the-list-of-illegal-foreign-workers-caught-by-cbsa/

edit- oh wait, is it because of the way I phrased it you thought I meant they were the biggest ones?

Also your link is for youth gangs, you have to break it down more

http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/rgnzd-crm-brf-12/index-eng.aspx

 

[Svnla]

lol
Do you deny that the Asian pop in America has a gang problem too? Or are a large part of the illegal immigrants?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_Canada

http://globalnews.ca/news/364043/americans-top-the-list-of-illegal-foreign-workers-caught-by-cbsa/

edit- oh wait, is it because of the way I phrased it you thought I meant they were the biggest ones?

Read your freaking own words. :whiste:

the race that results in a majority of gangs and illegals

From your very own links:

CBSA reported 369 unauthorized workers across Canada in 2012, with nearly one-third of them found in the Pacific region.

Nearly 1/3 = MAJORITY? Must be how Canada folks like you do math these days, eh?

From Merriam-Webster: Majority = a number that is greater than half of a total.

I glanced the wiki link and did not see MAJORITY of gang members were Asians. Feel free to point out.


You were saying something about LOL?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Read your freaking own words. :whiste:



From your very own links:



Nearly 1/3 = MAJORITY? Must be how Canada folks like you do math these days, eh?

I glanced the wiki link and did not see MAJORITY of gang members were Asians. Feel free to point out.

I use the grammar I was brought up with.
I seen a couple of weeks ago in a thread in OT most of you Americans use a sort of ebonics form of grammar

 

[Orignal Earl]

A major part of the gang problem in Canada is Asian gangs
The second largest group of illegals in Canada are Asian, after Americans. Which also may consist of Asian Americans

Better?

 

[nixium]

C'mon it's OK to admit you were wrong.

You clearly said asians are are majority of gangs and illegals. We have that on quote just above.

Nothing about ebonics or grammar here - just a simple black and white statement.

We're also the most successful minorities in the states, yet no one really cares about us from a legal immigration perspective.

That being said Canada has a way better immigration system than the states, and if things don't change here (or change the wrong way) I'll be heading north

Hell they just opened up skilled immigration for people like me.. I don't even need a job, just adequate work experience, good scores, and a clean record.

I have that here, and guess what? I have a 25 year wait while law breakers get de-facto amnesty.

Also Canadian CBP officers >>>>>>>>> the friendliest US CBP officer (of which there aren't many.) It's almost as if they pick racists and xenophobes for those positions here in the states.

Huh, maybe I should applying to Canada now!!!

 

[Svnla]

I use the grammar I was brought up with.
I seen a couple of weeks ago in a thread in OT most of you Americans use a sort of ebonics form of grammar

Dude, just admit that you were wrong, being pwned hard by me, and just walk away. That's ok.

You were saying earlier (post # 230) about "LOL"?

 

[Orignal Earl]

C'mon it's OK to admit you were wrong.

You clearly said asians are are majority of gangs and illegals. We have that on quote just above.

Nothing about ebonics or grammar here - just a simple black and white statement.

We're also the most successful minorities in the states, yet no one really cares about us from a legal immigration perspective.

That being said Canada has a way better immigration system than the states, and if things don't change here (or change the wrong way) I'll be heading north

Hell they just opened up skilled immigration for people like me.. I don't even need a job, just adequate work experience, good scores, and a clean record.

I have that here, and guess what? I have a 25 year wait while law breakers get de-facto amnesty.

Also Canadian CBP officers >>>>>>>>> the friendliest US CBP officer (of which there aren't many.) It's almost as if they pick racists and xenophobes for those positions here in the states.

Huh, maybe I should applying to Canada now!!!

I admitted I could of phrased it better in one of the edits above.
But really I see nothing wrong with the way I did it in the first place
I said a majority.
They are one of the majorities of groups.
Not the majority

 

[nixium]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarra...ws-what-democrats-want-from-obama-on-deportat

They should have added a final point: Flip the birdie to anyone waiting in line legally for years and years and laugh in their faces.

 

[TerryMathews]

I admitted I could of phrased it better in one of the edits above.
But really I see nothing wrong with the way I did it in the first place
I said a majority.
They are one of the majorities of groups.
Not the majority

Wow

 

[Orignal Earl]

Dude, just admit that you were wrong, being pwned hard by me, and just walk away. That's ok.

You were saying earlier (post # 230) about "LOL"?

nixium sure seems like a decent example of an educated Asian American
Your childish pwning hard leads me to believe I may be dealing with some kid

 

[Victorian Gray]

How has our nation raised so very many that feel that purposefully importing unskilled people from other nations and then supporting them with borrowed money is some kind of recipe for success?

Sometimes I wonder where the escape hatch is. Where does one go on this planet to escape this type of thinking? Perhaps death is the only escape.

Seriously? You went there?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Wow

"Also the race that results in a majority of gangs and illegals"

"Also the race that results in the majority of gangs and illegals"

Still looks good to me

 

[Svnla]

nixium sure seems like a decent example of an educated Asian American
Your childish pwning hard leads me to believe I may be dealing with some kid

No, I am really an old white guy with no teeth, living in a broken down trailer with my Confederate flag, making my living by selling deep fried foods.

Oh so I have been told from certain members in here...LOL.




Pro tip: just give it up, dude. You are digging yourself into a bigger hole.


For those that are curious of what is going, this is that Earl said earlier in his own words (post # 225):

Also the race that results in a majority of gangs and illegals

And so far, his own links did not help him because MAJORITY = OVER HALF, not 1/2, not 1/3, not 1/4, must be OVER 50%. Period.

 

[Orignal Earl]

No, I am really an old white guy with no teeth, living in a broken down trailer with my Confederate flag, making my living by selling deep fried foods.

I'm an old white guy with no teeth, living in a broken down bungalow, had a rebel flag, but got rid of it

For those that are curious of what is going, this is that Earl said earlier in his own words:

Look above your post

 

[Orignal Earl]

And so far, his own links did not help him because MAJORITY = OVER HALF, not 1/2, not 1/3, not 1/4, must be OVER 50%. Period.

A major part of the gang problem in Canada is Asian gangs
The second largest group of illegals in Canada are Asian, after Americans. Which also may consist of Asian Americans

Better?

...

 

[Jaskalas]

I think I get it.
You dread the day when 2 out of 4 people you see will be browner then you are.

Far as the illegal population is concerned, the expected ratio would be 1 out of 4 people nationally. Probably no less than 3 out of 4 regionally. 4 out of 4 locally, which is already the case. This illegal population who has invaded the United States and seized their position by force won't be my countrymen no matter which side of the border they live on.

I understand they were practically "invited" here by the open door and the disregard for the law by our own government. Invited by Republicans for slave labor. Invited by Democrats for "minority" voters. It's a bipartisan effort to cause this invasion in the first place.

I continue to repeat that so long as the border is secured, Americans should come to terms with the dramatic demographic changes in the Southwest. That no blood should be spilled on account of this violation. Yet so long as the border remains open, this issue will be a festering wound on our people. There are those who demand full deportation. Who demand repeal of citizenship for their children. Those who want war. This is no small number who would take this existential threat and act on it.

Our representatives ignore representing that segment of the population at their own peril. It is a significant issue, and it should be addressed with appeasement. With REAL and effective results at sealing the border. The same way compromise must be met to allow a peaceful assimilation of the new Southwest.

I bring up economics, I bring up nationality, of sovereign and cultural loyalty and tradition. It takes you, laying low with your racism, to bring up the color of their skin.

 

[Victorian Gray]

regarding ethnic makeup of gangs in Canada, African-Canadian gangs are roughly 25% of the total but are mainly found mainly in Ontario. Indo-Canadian + Chinese +Vietnamese + Phillipine gangs combined are roughly 26% of the total and found mainly in B.C..

Note: study from 2006 and draws on earlier figures. I suspect combined Asian figure to have increased over the past 10 years particularly here on the coast.

2.2.3 Ethnicity
Nafekh (2002) explored the characteristics of Aboriginal federal inmates who were gang members while Craig et al. (2002) limited their sample boys who spoke French as their first language and had parents
who were born in Quebec. Other studies described a variety of ethnic demographics. Thirty-eight percent of the Montreal youth in Hamel et al.'s (1998) study had Canadian-born parents, 19% had a Haitian background, 16% had a Latin American background, and the others were from a variety of backgrounds. In the Vancouver study (Gordon & Foley, 1998), the largest group was comprised of Asian gang
members (45%), followed by Caucasian (20%), Aboriginal (14%), Middle Eastern (8%), Indo-Canadian (5%), African Canadian (3%) and Hispanic (2%).

The ethnic variation of gang composition has also been seen on a national level. The Astwood (2004) police survey reported on the composition of gang members across Canada: African-Canadian (25%), First Nations (22%), Caucasian (18%), Asian (12%), East Indian (14%), Latino/Hispanic (6%), and Middle Eastern (3%). British Columbia had the highest proportion of Asian members (37%). Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba had the highest representation of First Nations members (96%, 58%, and 58% respectively). Ontario had the greatest percentage of East Indian members (21%). Ontario also reported a high proportion of African Canadian members (36%), as did Quebec (51%) and Nova Scotia (48%). Nova Scotia had a high proportion of Caucasian members (47%). The respondents also indicated that 36% of the youth gangs had members of two or more ethnic/racial groups, averaging from less than 1% in Nova Scotia to 46% in British Columbia.

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/crime/rr07_1/rr07_1.pdf

 

[Orignal Earl]

I bring up economics, I bring up nationality, of sovereign and cultural loyalty and tradition.

They say all that at anyone of your standard hate group meetings too

It takes you, laying low with your racism, to bring up the color of their skin.

I've admitted I'm racist. That's the first step to recovery that a lot of posters here can't get past. I think some people here believe you have to be burning crosses to be racist
I love my multicultural world, and have always been interested in different people.

 

[Orignal Earl]

regarding ethnic makeup of gangs in Canada, African-Canadian gangs are roughly 25% of the total but are mainly found mainly in Ontario. Indo-Canadian + Chinese +Vietnamese + Phillipine gangs combined are roughly 26% of the total and found mainly in B.C..

Note: study from 2006 and draws on earlier figures. I suspect combined Asian figure to have increased over the past 10 years particularly here on the coast.

I was going to say "Don't try telling someone from Van, that there is no major problem with Asian gangs"
But I figured I'd just end up arguing about grammar for another 10 posts

 

[squarecut1]

We're also the most successful minorities in the states,

That's because you guys never spend any money. Like, none, never

 

[Orignal Earl]

I was going to say "Don't try telling someone from Van, that there is no major problem with Asian gangs"
But I figured I'd just end up arguing about grammar for another 10 posts

I posted that, then walked over to the grocery store.
On my way I past a group of about five guys, very colorful assortment, minus a white guy.
Gave them the usual smile and a G'day and was greeted back with huge smiles and a assorted mix of stuff I couldn't understand.
After another half block, I thought shit, I just missed a great selfie I could of took with them and posted here. Oh well, next time

It's also occurred to me that when I'm saying major problem it could be very misleading, because Van is a beautiful peaceful place where 99.9999% of people get along great.