Kid shoots his parents over Halo 3

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Though it's not really necessary to use guns at a young age; just so long as kids are aware of them, the power they have, and the implications of using and abusing that power.
I'm sure there were rules about Spear Control back when they were the newest WMD, following right on the heels of Fire as the #1 threat.

Son, don't point that spear at anything you're not ready to throw at.

"You'll put your eye out!"

Then they got some kid to lick a glacier, and his tongue stuck.

Then a saber-toothed cat ate him. Oh well.

 

[Red Squirrel]

His parents should just ban him off the server. I hate TKers.

 

[thegimp03]

Wow...that's appalling. My parents would stop me from playing video games all the time, I'd just find something else to do.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I already decided that my kids aren't going to be watching any TV.

Now I'm starting to think that video games will be the next restriction...

Doing so will increase the likelihood that they will end up even more fucked up than if you had you let them watch TV and play games.

pretty much

make sure you wear your bullet proof vest when you're depriving your children of a normal life

Weird, there are plenty of kids at the school that I teach at who only get ABC, NBC, and CBS... if the weather is just right. They're not allowed to own video games, and have turned out incredibly normal. Every last one of them is well above average & will get to go to the college of their choice. And, at school, they're involved in all sorts of extra-curricular activities & are well adjusted.

Extremes are always bad. Gotta adjust it for your kids/family. Of my two little sisters that are now adults, it took two totally different parenting styles. One needed a slap on the wrist/physical punishment to learn her lessons while the other responded well to those "lame" punishments now like "time-out" and being sent to her room.

Just like how there are so many kids nowadays who grow up to be adults, find out they can buy guns and are completely unsafe to themselves and those around them or go around being gun-grabbing pansies. Then there are the kids raised and taught gun safety/respect and are the ones realizing how many crazy people that either have guns or want to take their guns away.

wtf are you talking about? (the first paragraph there) The rabid infatuation with video games is really only one generation long. Ditto 135 channels of shit on the tv which doesn't develop the mind at all. If anything, my observations are that the kids who play the most video games are also the most maladjusted.

The second paragraph - makes little sense. A very high percentage of households are anti-gun. I don't see kids from those households running out and purchasing guns in record numbers after they hit 18 years old and move out. Nor do I find that kids from those environments are any more likely to be better or worse than their counterparts. I do, however, agree with the notion that kids brought up respecting firearms are less likely to abuse firearms. Then again, this very situation could actually be used as evidence against that argument - obviously the parents owned a firearm. And obviously, the behavior that they modeled with that firearm was one of safety - the gun was kept locked up.

My point is that you can't just make generalizations like tv and video games are bad. I had those satellite channels as a kid, watched shows like married with children and home improvement growing up as well as discovery channel, history channel, food tv and learned a lot from them. I also played games all the time from the 486 days, up to my days of overclocking the celeron 300's. You have to adjust your parenting style to each kid. Some will turn out fine with 135 channels, an xbox, ps3 and an ipod and some won't. Hell, my rapid infatuation with computer games made me learn about computers and gave me an advantage in my career with my technical abilities over many of my peers.

The second example is how when you keep a person ignorant of something, they might not know how to handle it. Like those kids with daddy's that have a gun hidden away in the closet and are naturally curious and end up blowing theirs or a friend's head off while showing off.

In the end, the answer = good parenting. Even then, a totally fucked up kid will still grow up to be a fuckup.

No, no, no. Clearly television and video games are the cause of all the fucked up kids in the world. Their parents couldn't be the problem. No way man, no way.

 

[Mo0o]

Did he use the plasma pistol first

 

[SnipeMasterJ13]

That kid sucks. Can't even get a Double Kill. Anyone with skill can get an easy Double Kill with headshots. While jumping.

Interestingly enough, it was NOT playing the game that made him violent. Not the other way around. It looks like the video game industry can use this as a solid case to prove video games DON'T cause violence!

On a more serious note, that kid is messed up and as it turns out, should have been spawn killed.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
But did he kill them because of one of those previous games or because they wouldn't let him play Halo 3?

Sagalore 0, Dr. Pizza 0, Idiots 1

Hey wait....

Mental comprehension not as sharp as it used to be? Maybe it's from too many video games. Here, let me explain. Sagalore said "no" video games. You said that would increase the likelihood that they "will end up even more fucked up." Now the first shred of evidence YOU need to support your claim is one example of a person who was not allowed to play video games... period. Not someone who was denied access to one particular game. Then, you have to statistically show that people who were not allowed to play video games are more likely to be "fucked up" than the population in general. And, that's something that I'm pretty sure you're not going to be able to do as there has been plenty of research actually showing the opposite - that some violent video games lead to violence.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
No, no, no. Clearly television and video games are the cause of all the fucked up kids in the world. Their parents couldn't be the problem. No way man, no way.

I sense sarcasm. Of course, no, television & video games don't cause kids to be fucked up. Sometimes excessive video games or excessive television will cause screwed up kids - and as Kelvrick said, that comes down to parenting. However, your claim that a lack of television/video games will cause kids to be screwed up is a pretty screwed up idea itself. Were you denied video games? No?? I rest my case.

Originally posted by: SnipeMasterJ13
Interestingly enough, it was NOT playing the game that made him violent. Not the other way around. It looks like the video game industry can use this as a solid case to prove video games DON'T cause violence!

You think so? Take a step back and think for a moment. Why did his parents say "no" to Halo 3? Did they just arbitrarily decide against that game title? Or maybe the parents said to themselves, "gee, our son seems a little fucked in the head. Maybe we ought to start watching which games we allow him to play."

 

[frostedflakes]

WTF? That's messed up. How could a person shoot their parents?

And FWIW, I grew up with Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake, internet porn, etc. and would consider myself to be a pretty normal person, so it's tough for me to blame anyone other than the person who pulled the trigger. It's just a matter of being able to differentiate between fantasy and reality, which is a concept some kids seem to have trouble with.

edit:

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: shinerburke
No, no, no. Clearly television and video games are the cause of all the fucked up kids in the world. Their parents couldn't be the problem. No way man, no way.

I sense sarcasm. Of course, no, television & video games don't cause kids to be fucked up. Sometimes excessive video games or excessive television will cause screwed up kids - and as Kelvrick said, that comes down to parenting. However, your claim that a lack of television/video games will cause kids to be screwed up is a pretty screwed up idea itself. Were you denied video games? No?? I rest my case.

I think no television/games could be detrimental to some extent. For better or worse, they are a big part of the culture for kids these days, and if a student is not familiar with that culture, it might cause them to be feel awkward and alienated around their peers. But that's kind of a stretch, more than likely they'd probably be able to find a few other kids in a similar situation and hang out with them. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate and present a possible negative from cutting a child off completely from video games and TV.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
So...how did this kid get into the "lockbox"?

The passcode was john316

 

[A Casual Fitz]

Originally posted by: RichardE
"Omg Dad, the respawn timer isn't real?"

Fucking kids, jesus, put a bullet in him and be done with it.

Agreed.

 

[Gothgar]

headsh...headshot!

did he teabag them after the frags?

 

[A Casual Fitz]

Originally posted by: jonks
One day parents will all learn their lesson and just let kids play violent videogames and then these sort of unfortunate incidents will no longer occur. Censorship kills.

Disagreed. Events like this don't mean parents shouldn't enable discretionary censorship. It's essential for upbringing IMO.

 

[hanoverphist]

i think the parents were using the game purchase as a tool to keep the kid in line or teach him a life lesson. the kid could have been a behavior problem all along, and saw the withholding of the game as the "final straw". they could have kept the game in the gun safe thinking it was the most secure place in the house, not knowing little johnny lightfinger knew how to get it open. i restrict my kids time on the computer and computer games all the time, they go find something else to do. usually ill make sure there is something else to do WITH me instead of them walking off and sulking. thats also how i got them interested in volleyball.

 

[Evadman]

He's a TK'er. I hope he never ends up on my team.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Better he go after those that raised him that way than others.

Fixed, and you're right.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
A shining example of christian forgiveness by the father.

At least they can all laugh about this in heaven. Since this life we live is of no real importance.

I just pictured that.
"Hey Dan, remember that time you shot your mother in the face?"
"Hahaha, yeah I almost got you too!"
"C'mon you know you can't take out your old man without a fight! You were never even close!"
"BOOM! Headshot!"
*lolz all around*
*group hug*
...and scene.

 

[Kalmah]

The perfect video for this.

Porcupine Tree

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
So...how did this kid get into the "lockbox"?

[King Roland has given in to Dark Helmet's threats, and is telling him the combination to the "air shield"]
Roland: One.
Dark Helmet: One.
Colonel Sandurz: One.
Roland: Two.
Dark Helmet: Two.
Colonel Sandurz: Two.
Roland: Three.
Dark Helmet: Three.
Colonel Sandurz: Three.
Roland: Four.
Dark Helmet: Four.
Colonel Sandurz: Four.
Roland: Five.
Dark Helmet: Five.
Colonel Sandurz: Five.
Dark Helmet: So the combination is... one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Did he use the plasma pistol first

got to! deplete the energy shield and then you can switch guns and go for the kill.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz

Originally posted by: RichardE
"Omg Dad, the respawn timer isn't real?"

Fucking kids, jesus, put a bullet in him and be done with it.

Agreed.

Nah. Use a frag grenade or the needler.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Baked
360 breeds homicidal murderers.

Mines just broke, and I know I want to kill someone.:|

 

[RaistlinZ]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

"According to prosectors, Petric, 16 at the time of the shooting, was forbidden to buy Halo 3 by his parents, Mark and Susan Petric. The teen snuck out to purchase the game anyway, and was caught by his parents upon his return. The game was locked up in Mark's lockbox, along with a 9mm handgun."

Natural selection at its finest. :roll:

 

[ruu]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: SnipeMasterJ13
Interestingly enough, it was NOT playing the game that made him violent. Not the other way around. It looks like the video game industry can use this as a solid case to prove video games DON'T cause violence!

You think so? Take a step back and think for a moment. Why did his parents say "no" to Halo 3? Did they just arbitrarily decide against that game title? Or maybe the parents said to themselves, "gee, our son seems a little fucked in the head. Maybe we ought to start watching which games we allow him to play."

I think it's much more likely that they DID arbitrarily decide against that title. I mean, maybe the dad will toss out a few reasons like, Oh, we heard it was going to be a really violent game, so we didn't want him to play it, but when a kid lashes out so intensely over a pretty normal case of parental disciplinary action, it indicates that they don't take discipline well in the first place, which indicates that it wasn't being properly meted out, which in turn indicates that discipline, when it does happen, seems arbitrary and illogical to the child.

I guess I'm saying that a well-disciplined child will respond to discipline because on some level, he will see the discipline as deserved/logical, even though he doesn't like it. At the least, he will respond to the parent's authority position to be issuing any discipline in the first place. A poorly-disciplined child will completely overreact to the slightest case of discipline because to him, any discipline will seem in and of itself arbitrary, which it probably will be, if it's been that poorly enforced.

Then again, I'm just speculating. There aren't nearly enough details for any conclusions to be drawn.

Edit for messing up nested quotes.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I already decided that my kids aren't going to be watching any TV.

Now I'm starting to think that video games will be the next restriction...

Doing so will increase the likelihood that they will end up even more fucked up than if you had you let them watch TV and play games.

pretty much

make sure you wear your bullet proof vest when you're depriving your children of a normal life

Normal is a subjective word, but if you are going to deny your kid something as universal as TV or video games you have to provide something in its place. Part of that is encouraging your kids to have a variety of interests. My nephew has strict restrictions on TV and games, but that's never been a big deal because sports and the socializing related to it have always consumed the majority of his free time. Plus, now he's got a girlfriend....