Kid plays on headstone and it topples over and kills him

[spaceghost21]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: spaceghost21

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I think it's more a product of economics than race. I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in the midwest and I can assure you it's not that white/asian people just raise their kids better because of core values.

This.

I like how every news story posted on ATOT involving a member of a minority turns into a thread bashing said minority. It's fucking disgusting really.

I'm sure you could think of some things to bash white people on.

Upon rereading MagicConch's post I'm not sure if I correctly interpreted it. What I thought he was trying to say is that the race of the children wasn't a factor in their behavior but rather their socioeconomic status etc. and that his experience in the midwest has shown him white/asian childeren behaving in the same manner.

I for one just think silly and ignorant to make assumptions or generalizations about an entire race and that's the point I was trying to get across. It seems to me a lot of people on ATOT have no objection to doing just this...

leash them if they're obnoxious.

Agreed!

 

[spaceghost21]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel

Originally posted by: vhx

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
While it's impossible to track a kid 100% of the time (they can go from being behave to breaking stuff in 0.05 secs) but regardless it's either the parent's fault - they should of got a babysitter, or lets just call it a freak accident and end it there. It sucks, but move on. At any time, anywhere, anything can happen and be a freak accident, why is it people always have to find a blame?

There's no money in that.

No money? Some of these lawsuits give retarded payouts that could retire an average person on the spot. Sure some of it goes to the lawyers (who make WAY too much money tbh) but when we're talking millions the lawyer fees arn't so bad. Maybe not this particular case, but I've seen similar cases go that high.

Common sense should be a requirement to do a lawsuit. If you don't have it, you do not have the right to sue anyone for anything.

You don't let a kid play on a tomb stone that is loose, the same way you don't let a kid play with paperclips and sockets.

I believe vhx was agreeing with you and simply pointing out that when the blame is placed on no one there's no money from a lawsuit / settlement.

 

[crisscross]

Well I guess that headstone had the kids' name on it, can't believe nobody said that yet

 

[aplefka]

Idiots. I hate lawsuits like this. I hope they lose a ton of money in legal fees and the judge rules that it wasn't expected use for the headstone to be played on by a small child.

May be an asshole thing to say given the circumstances, but frivolous lawsuits where people can't accept the fact that accidents happen piss me off.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Anubis
fuck him, his own fault for being stupid

Hay! Have you no respect for the dead? :|

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Anubis
fuck him, his own fault for being stupid

Hay! Have you no respect for the dead? :|

i have no respect for anyone

 

[mugs]

This thread makes me wish my family changed their name even more when they came here from Spain.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: spaceghost21

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I think it's more a product of economics than race. I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in the midwest and I can assure you it's not that white/asian people just raise their kids better because of core values.

This.

I like how every news story posted on ATOT involving a member of a minority turns into a thread bashing said minority. It's fucking disgusting really.

posters on here are funny in how they come to conclusions on how all people of a certain race act based off the very limited encounters they've had with said race.

This is *MY* experience, Mexican children are the loudest, White kids tear shit up and cry and scream when they don't get their way. And Black children tend to be VERY quite as I've seen plenty get beat by their mother for touching a single item in the store they're in. Anyone who believes black or Mexican kids are more unruly than white kids are either 1. dumb, 2. misinformed or 3. flat out racist.

SEE I can jump to generalizations too, woo hoo!

 

[MotionMan]

I am not so sure that it would be foreseeable that children would be playing the gravestones at a funeral.

Without foreseeablity, there generally is no liability.

MotionMan

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: MotionMan
I am not so sure that it would be foreseeable that children would be playing the gravestones at a funeral.

Without foreseeablity, there generally is no liability.

MotionMan

Really? Aren't you a lawyer?

If that's a part of the law, it would seem that most judges don't bother considering it. Just look at all the stupid warnings companies have to put on products because people found unprecedentedly idiotic ways to hurt themselves using them. Seems like in general the courts side with the people and the companies are liable for not protecting people from themselves.

But that's just my impression. It may be biased because the media probably over-reports the stupid lawsuits.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: MotionMan
I am not so sure that it would be foreseeable that children would be playing the gravestones at a funeral.

Without foreseeablity, there generally is no liability.

MotionMan

Really? Aren't you a lawyer?

If that's a part of the law, it would seem that most judges don't bother considering it. Just look at all the stupid warnings companies have to put on products because people found unprecedentedly idiotic ways to hurt themselves using them. Seems like in general the courts side with the people and the companies are liable for not protecting people from themselves.

But that's just my impression. It may be biased because the media probably over-reports the stupid lawsuits.

It is very easy to find enough foreseeability to keep a case alive. Also, judges cannot just throw out cases. It is a long process to get cases dismissed by a judge.

MotionMan

 

[CKent]

I let my kids play on headstones all the time. It's perfectly safe to not pay any attention to the kids at all, and it's also respectful to the dead.

I hope the lawyer that talked this parent into suing gets hit by a bus.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: TehMac
I'm surprised too, because usually Mexicans tend to be Catholic, and they have an extraordinary sense of faith and respect in their religious principals. Thats a pretty sweeping generalization, sure, but I have noticed it quite a bit.

Also, here in SoCal, I noticed a lot of unruly Asian kids running around, while the Latinos and Mexicans tended to be very well disciplined relative to their age. I guess it depends where you are/income in the are, although the two aren't directly related at all, there is a tendency.

Can't say I have a ton of experience with mexican/latino kids but I'ved lived in the South as well as the Northwest and from my experiences, black kids are far more unruly compared to asian or white kids. But I agree with MagicConch that a lot of that likely has to do with socialeconomic and education levels

I have to agree. I'm not racist at all, but Mexican families and their litters of unruly children boggle my mind and make me quite angry at times.

It's much different here in the desert SW, but up in Oregon - when my ex was working in the mall, it was always Mexican children that would come in and destroy her store - their parents didn't give a shit.

A litter? Are Mexican dogs?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: TehMac
I'm surprised too, because usually Mexicans tend to be Catholic, and they have an extraordinary sense of faith and respect in their religious principals. Thats a pretty sweeping generalization, sure, but I have noticed it quite a bit.

Also, here in SoCal, I noticed a lot of unruly Asian kids running around, while the Latinos and Mexicans tended to be very well disciplined relative to their age. I guess it depends where you are/income in the are, although the two aren't directly related at all, there is a tendency.

Can't say I have a ton of experience with mexican/latino kids but I'ved lived in the South as well as the Northwest and from my experiences, black kids are far more unruly compared to asian or white kids. But I agree with MagicConch that a lot of that likely has to do with socialeconomic and education levels

I have to agree. I'm not racist at all, but Mexican families and their litters of unruly children boggle my mind and make me quite angry at times.

It's much different here in the desert SW, but up in Oregon - when my ex was working in the mall, it was always Mexican children that would come in and destroy her store - their parents didn't give a shit.

A litter? Are Mexican dogs?

Pretty much sums it up...

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
If a two year old could topple a head stone there is fault with the way it was anchored.

I agree. There must be some kind of construction standard for putting up headstones. As the article said, reasonable care must be taken to make a premises safe. Its that simple.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: spaceghost21

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I think it's more a product of economics than race. I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in the midwest and I can assure you it's not that white/asian people just raise their kids better because of core values.

This.

I like how every news story posted on ATOT involving a member of a minority turns into a thread bashing said minority. It's fucking disgusting really.

posters on here are funny in how they come to conclusions on how all people of a certain race act based off the very limited encounters they've had with said race.

This is *MY* experience, Mexican children are the loudest, White kids tear shit up and cry and scream when they don't get their way. And Black children tend to be VERY quite as I've seen plenty get beat by their mother for touching a single item in the store they're in. Anyone who believes black or Mexican kids are more unruly than white kids are either 1. dumb, 2. misinformed or 3. flat out racist.

SEE I can jump to generalizations too, woo hoo!

:thumbsup:

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: spaceghost21

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I think it's more a product of economics than race. I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in the midwest and I can assure you it's not that white/asian people just raise their kids better because of core values.

This.

I like how every news story posted on ATOT involving a member of a minority turns into a thread bashing said minority. It's fucking disgusting really.

posters on here are funny in how they come to conclusions on how all people of a certain race act based off the very limited encounters they've had with said race.

This is *MY* experience, Mexican children are the loudest, White kids tear shit up and cry and scream when they don't get their way. And Black children tend to be VERY quite as I've seen plenty get beat by their mother for touching a single item in the store they're in. Anyone who believes black or Mexican kids are more unruly than white kids are either 1. dumb, 2. misinformed or 3. flat out racist.

SEE I can jump to generalizations too, woo hoo!

:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Why does there always have to be "fault"? There *is* such a thing as an unfortunate accident. Generally speaking I'd say the parents are at fault but as a parent I know it's impossible to monitor your children every second of the day.

Yes, there is such a thing as an unfortunate accident:

Lightning strikes

Having a volcano erupt

if you are driving in an area where landslides can happen and you get buried.

an avalanche.

if a tree fall on you while you are hiking in the woods.

pretty much anything that can be ruled as "an act of god" or a nature created catastrophe is an "accident"

where people are concerned...there is no "accident"...there is only carelessness.

no car wreck is a simple "accident".....it is because someone is not paying attention to what they should be paying attention to, which is operating a 2 ton vehicle as it is in motion.

the word "accident" is a way for people to shrug responsibility..."i did not intend for the gun to go off in his face...it was an accident."

This thing with this kid and the headstone...human error...not necessarily on the kid as much as the parents....it's unfortunate sure...sue worthy.....no.

I guess they should pay a bit more attention with their other kid(s) in the future.

 

[JTsyo]

Maybe it was just the ghost in the grave? He was probably pissed about kids on his grave.

 

[DangerAardvark]

have filed a lawsuit against the Pearland cemetery

Welp, there goes my sympathy. In the first sentence too. Gotta be some kind of record.

 

[Newbian]

I blame Darwin.

Another beloved patriot in the chain has been removed.

 

[UberNeuman]

Horatio Caine: What do we have here?

Officer: Looks like an accident. Child, approximately 2 years old was playing in the sematary - and was found crushed under this headstone...

Horatio: Well...

Horatio whips his sunglasses out and puts them on.

Horatio: Looks like this kid made a grave mistake......


YEEEEAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

 

[PieIsAwesome]

What a freak trage--Eh? Rodriguez? Cardenas?

Those gorram Mexicans and their unruly children and their lack of discipline and their irresponsibility and their sueing and their foreign language and their immigration and their aliens and their jorbs and their Mexicaness.

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Horatio Caine: What do we have here?

Officer: Looks like an accident. Child, approximately 2 years old was playing in the sematary - and was found crushed under this headstone...

Horatio: Well...

Horatio whips his sunglasses out and puts them on.

Horatio: Looks like this kid made a grave mistake......


YEEEEAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

That's stone cold!

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Horatio Caine: What do we have here?

Officer: Looks like an accident. Child, approximately 2 years old was playing in the sematary - and was found crushed under this headstone...

Horatio: Well...

Horatio whips his sunglasses out and puts them on.

Horatio: Looks like this kid made a grave mistake......


YEEEEAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

awesome :laugh::thumbsup: