Kid plays on headstone and it topples over and kills him

[marvdmartian]

Okay, I'm no expert on this, but do they even attach gravestones to the base pieces?? I thought it was just the weight of the stone that held it in place, not any fasteners (bolts, whatever) or cement/glue.

That's why, when someone gets into destructive mischief in a cemetery, the gravestones get tipped over, since they're not attached. The base stone is buried in the ground, and has to settle properly before the headstone can be put in place (I remember that from when my grandfather passed away).

Doesn't really matter whether they're physically attached or not, imho. The parents are 100% responsible for the kid(s), there's no way that the cemetery should be considered at fault, unless they were negligent in placing the headstone before the base was stable. Besides, who brings a 2 year old to a funeral anyways, let alone lets them play during a funeral??? I hope the judge gives them a one-word decision on this case: BABYSITTER!!! :roll:

 

[SandEagle]

Can't always blame the parents. Kid was probably dying to play on the headstone.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I hate the justice system, especially the lawsuit part of it. People find every possible way to sue so they can make thousands or even millions. It's retarded. The minute something happens everyone is pointing the finger to whoever they can sue. The worse is the lawyers that go for this stuff so they can make money too. Injuries are basically a source of income for some people.

It's sad what this world has become when it comes to safety/liability.

 

[Gothgar]

how about those parents watch their fucking kid a little closer

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I hate the justice system, especially the lawsuit part of it. People find every possible way to sue so they can make thousands or even millions. It's retarded. The minute something happens everyone is pointing the finger to whoever they can sue. The worse is the lawyers that go for this stuff so they can make money too. Injuries are basically a source of income for some people.

It's sad what this world has become when it comes to safety/liability.

Yea, man, I hate the RIAA.

 

[Red Squirrel]

While it's impossible to track a kid 100% of the time (they can go from being behave to breaking stuff in 0.05 secs) but regardless it's either the parent's fault - they should of got a babysitter, or lets just call it a freak accident and end it there. It sucks, but move on. At any time, anywhere, anything can happen and be a freak accident, why is it people always have to find a blame?

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
While it's impossible to track a kid 100% of the time (they can go from being behave to breaking stuff in 0.05 secs) but regardless it's either the parent's fault - they should of got a babysitter, or lets just call it a freak accident and end it there. It sucks, but move on. At any time, anywhere, anything can happen and be a freak accident, why is it people always have to find a blame?

There's no money in that.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: moshquerade


Padilla said his clients were too distraught to talk Friday about their son's death.

Funny how nobody is ever too distraught to contact a lawyer.

QFT.

 

[Throckmorton]

The ghosts

 

[compman25]

Originally posted by: rasczak
i wonder if the owner offereed up their services?

Maybe a 20% off coupon or something. :laugh: I guess people of all ages are dying to get in there.

 

[compuwiz1]

If a two year old could topple a head stone there is fault with the way it was anchored.

 

[Bateluer]

Yes, the three year old was an idiot and the parents should have disciplined him severely for playing on tombstones. But that tombstone sounds like it was very unstable and neglected by the operators.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Numenorean
When I read the last name, I was not surprised. Mexicans.

They let their kids do any damned thing they want - let them run wild and crazy all over the place and they won't start to discipline them until they are like 5 or so.

So you have a bunch of unruly kids doing stupid shit because their parents won't enforce any sort of rules when they are that young.

100% parents fault for allowing it.

Yep.

Here where we live, the (immigrant) Mexican kids run wild with zero parental supervision.

However, when their 15 year old daughter gets pregnant, or their 16 year old son gets arrested for murder, all of a sudden they're "wonderful, caring parents." :roll:

One former neighbor let his son do any dammed thing he wanted to. "He's my son, How can I discipline him for growing up?"

Then the kid got arrested for car theft...and, of course, it wasn't HIS fault...it was the fault of society.

I hate to say it, but I was happy when the dad got busted for his 8th DUI and went to jail for 90 days...and they lost the house and moved.

Around here a lot of the migrant mexicans get arrested for child rape, indecent liberties and lewd conduct. Most of the offenders seem to think it's ok to have sex with 12- 14 year old girls. And when you read the paper here, most of the names posted in the arrest records for DUI, theft, driving while license suspended / no ID, etc., are Hispanic names.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Eli
I'm not racist at all, but here's a generalization of an entire racial group.

Fixed.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Why does there always have to be "fault"? There *is* such a thing as an unfortunate accident. Generally speaking I'd say the parents are at fault but as a parent I know it's impossible to monitor your children every second of the day.

I'm going with this. Sad for the kid and parents, but sometimes its God's fault.

 

[Baked]

The parents filed a RMA w/ God.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
If a two year old could topple a head stone there is fault with the way it was anchored.

Head stones are not anchored.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
If a two year old could topple a head stone there is fault with the way it was anchored.

Agreed. However, "police say a group of children may have been playing on the headstones" - it didn't say it was a group of 2 year olds. I'd suspect that if there was a 2 year old off playing with kids that there were probably some older kids that the parents could have keep an eye on the little ones.


If you believe in spirits/ghosts, then the most likely culprit was a ghost punishing the kids for being disrespectful.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Eli
I'm not racist at all, but here's a generalization of an entire racial group.

Fixed.

It's not my fault its true.

I have met many very nice Mexican people, but there is a reason the stereotype holds...

 

[spaceghost21]

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I think it's more a product of economics than race. I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in the midwest and I can assure you it's not that white/asian people just raise their kids better because of core values.

This.

I like how every news story posted on ATOT involving a member of a minority turns into a thread bashing said minority. It's fucking disgusting really.

 

[Anubis]

fuck him, his own fault for being stupid

 

[spaceghost21]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Eli
I'm not racist at all, but here's a generalization of an entire racial group.

Fixed.

:laugh: Troo fact.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: spaceghost21

Originally posted by: MagicConch
I think it's more a product of economics than race. I grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in the midwest and I can assure you it's not that white/asian people just raise their kids better because of core values.

This.

I like how every news story posted on ATOT involving a member of a minority turns into a thread bashing said minority. It's fucking disgusting really.

I'm sure you could think of some things to bash white people on.

I didn't mean to sound racist, but it still seems to me that Mexican families tend to have many more children other races.

I'm sure socioeconomic status has something to do with the behavior of said children, but Christ, leash them if they're obnoxious.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: vhx

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
While it's impossible to track a kid 100% of the time (they can go from being behave to breaking stuff in 0.05 secs) but regardless it's either the parent's fault - they should of got a babysitter, or lets just call it a freak accident and end it there. It sucks, but move on. At any time, anywhere, anything can happen and be a freak accident, why is it people always have to find a blame?

There's no money in that.

No money? Some of these lawsuits give retarded payouts that could retire an average person on the spot. Sure some of it goes to the lawyers (who make WAY too much money tbh) but when we're talking millions the lawyer fees arn't so bad. Maybe not this particular case, but I've seen similar cases go that high.

Common sense should be a requirement to do a lawsuit. If you don't have it, you do not have the right to sue anyone for anything.

You don't let a kid play on a tomb stone that is loose, the same way you don't let a kid play with paperclips and sockets.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Karma's a bitch. You play on people's graves, your ass gets smote. Dumbass parents shouldn't have let their kids play on gravestones. WTF were they thinking?