Kerry makes really bad joke about White House and no one understands what he meant

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1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I saw the program, only a nutjob could take what he said as meaning "Kill Bush". What he meant and it was clear to all those watching the program was reversing the failed NeoCon Foreign Policy if he had won the election.

Man ProJo, talk about reaching.

Yeah, PJ must be running scared and desperate, that's for sure...

So what is Genx87's excuse? The same?
 
Feb 16, 2005
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That's it? Your underoos are all in a wad because of what Kerry said? Dude, your priorities are so out of whack, albeit, perfectly in line with the repug spin and the propaganda they vomit out.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If Kerry did say this, this is shameful and sad a US senator openly admits to thinking about killing the President of the United States.

Jeez - talk about much ado about nothing. Kerry never "openly admit[ted] to thinking about killing the President," nor did he joke about it. I would have thought any native speaker of English would understand what he said, but apparently I would be wrong. His comment had exactly nothing to do with killing anyone. This is the same kind of ignorance that makes it impossible to use the word "niggardly," or the expression "tar baby" in public anymore, because so many people are so ignorant of the language that they'll be offended by these words.

I find it comical that "ProfJohn" has such a persecution complex about people criticizing him, after he starts worthless thread after worthless thread.


If, If do you understand the implication of me saying that?

I am not accusing him of saying it, just commenting on the first page with a big old if.


 

jman19

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Yawn, only a partisan hack would take that quote to mean that he wanted kill Bush.
 

Hacp

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Bush let North Korea build Weapons of Mass destruction. Whats worse? A joke or the possibility of millions of people dying due to a terrorist attack with nukes? You decide.
 

thraashman

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From the second I read that quote I don't see why you think he's joking about killing the president. It seems like any mildly intelligent person would realize he was joking about how bad of a job Bush is doing and how if he'd become president it would be better. Hell, if a retarded chimpazee had been elected things would be better than with Bush or at least so long as that meant Bush's cabinet was gone too.
 

blackangst1

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Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: Adamah
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: One of those Nutjobs
Kerry is a coward...if he meant to say he would kill bin laden..then say it.

If he meant he wants to kill the president...then he should say it.
He didn't say either.

Of course not he is a flip flopper...not a "the decider"

And you're a returning banned member

OWNED
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: Hacp
Bush let North Korea build Weapons of Mass destruction. Whats worse? A joke or the possibility of millions of people dying due to a terrorist attack with nukes? You decide.

wow you are severlely confused. It was Clinton who signed agreement for the USA to give NK reactors, money, and aid. It was Bush that stopped it in 2002. Get your facts straight bucko.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Hacp
Bush let North Korea build Weapons of Mass destruction. Whats worse? A joke or the possibility of millions of people dying due to a terrorist attack with nukes? You decide.

wow you are severlely confused. It was Clinton who signed agreement for the USA to give NK reactors, money, and aid. It was Bush that stopped it in 2002. Get your facts straight bucko.

Stopped what???
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Hacp
Bush let North Korea build Weapons of Mass destruction. Whats worse? A joke or the possibility of millions of people dying due to a terrorist attack with nukes? You decide.

wow you are severlely confused. It was Clinton who signed agreement for the USA to give NK reactors, money, and aid. It was Bush that stopped it in 2002. Get your facts straight bucko.

Stopped what???

er maybe stopped is the wrong word. How about terminate? Yeah thats it. Terminated the agreement called "The Agreed Framework"
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam

God Damn it! WHAT ABOUT THE INSULT TO BIRDS?


OK, since you're so damn insistant:

"Screw the Birds, they're stupid and their mothers dress them funny ! "


That better? make you happy ? :D

 
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If Kerry did say this, this is shameful and sad a US senator openly admits to thinking about killing the President of the United States.

Jeez - talk about much ado about nothing. Kerry never "openly admit[ted] to thinking about killing the President," nor did he joke about it. I would have thought any native speaker of English would understand what he said, but apparently I would be wrong. His comment had exactly nothing to do with killing anyone. This is the same kind of ignorance that makes it impossible to use the word "niggardly," or the expression "tar baby" in public anymore, because so many people are so ignorant of the language that they'll be offended by these words.

I find it comical that "ProfJohn" has such a persecution complex about people criticizing him, after he starts worthless thread after worthless thread.


If, If do you understand the implication of me saying that?

I am not accusing him of saying it, just commenting on the first page with a big old if.


Your "if" still assumes that if he said this (which he did - I happened to watch the show last night), his comment implied violence toward the President (which it doesn't). I remain mystified how anyone could fail to grasp this.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If Kerry did say this, this is shameful and sad a US senator openly admits to thinking about killing the President of the United States.

Jeez - talk about much ado about nothing. Kerry never "openly admit[ted] to thinking about killing the President," nor did he joke about it. I would have thought any native speaker of English would understand what he said, but apparently I would be wrong. His comment had exactly nothing to do with killing anyone. This is the same kind of ignorance that makes it impossible to use the word "niggardly," or the expression "tar baby" in public anymore, because so many people are so ignorant of the language that they'll be offended by these words.

I find it comical that "ProfJohn" has such a persecution complex about people criticizing him, after he starts worthless thread after worthless thread.


If, If do you understand the implication of me saying that?

I am not accusing him of saying it, just commenting on the first page with a big old if.


Your "if" still assumes that if he said this (which he did - I happened to watch the show last night), his comment implied violence toward the President (which it doesn't). I remain mystified how anyone could fail to grasp this.

Although I saw the entire interview on tape, I think because he didnt specifically say Bush or Bin Laden or Ronald McDonald, it is left to interpretation. Just as you are mystified how anyone could not understand he DIDNT meant he Prez, I am just as mystified how you cannot see he DID mean the Prez. *shrug* No one is right here. It's allll speculation.
 

senseamp

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Feb 5, 2006
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GOP is so desperate. They wanna scare you so much, but all the media is talking about is Foley's little internet adventure.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If Kerry did say this, this is shameful and sad a US senator openly admits to thinking about killing the President of the United States.

Jeez - talk about much ado about nothing. Kerry never "openly admit[ted] to thinking about killing the President," nor did he joke about it. I would have thought any native speaker of English would understand what he said, but apparently I would be wrong. His comment had exactly nothing to do with killing anyone. This is the same kind of ignorance that makes it impossible to use the word "niggardly," or the expression "tar baby" in public anymore, because so many people are so ignorant of the language that they'll be offended by these words.

I find it comical that "ProfJohn" has such a persecution complex about people criticizing him, after he starts worthless thread after worthless thread.


If, If do you understand the implication of me saying that?

I am not accusing him of saying it, just commenting on the first page with a big old if.


Your "if" still assumes that if he said this (which he did - I happened to watch the show last night), his comment implied violence toward the President (which it doesn't). I remain mystified how anyone could fail to grasp this.

Although I saw the entire interview on tape, I think because he didnt specifically say Bush or Bin Laden or Ronald McDonald, it is left to interpretation. Just as you are mystified how anyone could not understand he DIDNT meant he Prez, I am just as mystified how you cannot see he DID mean the Prez. *shrug* No one is right here. It's allll speculation.

Still doesn'y mean "killing" "ending his life" or anything close. That's what the OP is trying to lead us to believe he meant, but there is no way Kerry's statement can be read that way. Unless one totally chooses to ignore the context of the saying used, which the OP seems willing to do.
 

shira

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Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: glugglug
Maybe he meant Bin Laden?
He is probably staying there.

Actually Kerry was referring to the quail that Cheney missed during his little hunting escapade. That quail is hiding in plain site, along with every other truth this Administration is unable to see.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If Kerry did say this, this is shameful and sad a US senator openly admits to thinking about killing the President of the United States.

Jeez - talk about much ado about nothing. Kerry never "openly admit[ted] to thinking about killing the President," nor did he joke about it. I would have thought any native speaker of English would understand what he said, but apparently I would be wrong. His comment had exactly nothing to do with killing anyone. This is the same kind of ignorance that makes it impossible to use the word "niggardly," or the expression "tar baby" in public anymore, because so many people are so ignorant of the language that they'll be offended by these words.

I find it comical that "ProfJohn" has such a persecution complex about people criticizing him, after he starts worthless thread after worthless thread.


If, If do you understand the implication of me saying that?

I am not accusing him of saying it, just commenting on the first page with a big old if.


Your "if" still assumes that if he said this (which he did - I happened to watch the show last night), his comment implied violence toward the President (which it doesn't). I remain mystified how anyone could fail to grasp this.

Although I saw the entire interview on tape, I think because he didnt specifically say Bush or Bin Laden or Ronald McDonald, it is left to interpretation. Just as you are mystified how anyone could not understand he DIDNT meant he Prez, I am just as mystified how you cannot see he DID mean the Prez. *shrug* No one is right here. It's allll speculation.

Still doesn'y mean "killing" "ending his life" or anything close. That's what the OP is trying to lead us to believe he meant, but there is no way Kerry's statement can be read that way. Unless one totally chooses to ignore the context of the saying used, which the OP seems willing to do.

I read it kill as in like when youre out with your friends and they play a prank on you, you say "I'm gonna kill you!" kind of thing. Nevertheless, its very inappropriate for someone in his position who may be seeking the White House. Joking or not. To me, it shows he is still licking his wounds from 2000.

edit: I re-read the OP's post, and right in the title he says "JOKE". See it? How in the world do you YOU interprate that to mean the OP is insinuating he meant kill as in end life? /boggle He simply said what I did...that it is very inappropriate.
 

ProfJohn

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Jul 28, 2006
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I'm baaaack :)
Sorry I have a job and can't always post during the day, glad to see everyone had fun while I was gone.

Thanks to whoever posted the entire quote, the page I found was missing anything before Bill's lead in.

Here is how I see it...
Kerry talks about a vacation in Vermont with the Mrs.
Bill says "You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone. "

Meaning you could have got your vacation and put some time in on the campaign trail, or made an appearance, or just be going to NH sent a message etc etc etc

Kerry responds "Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone. "

Can anyone explain what he meant by "killed the real bird" ??
Maybe it was an attempt to mix metaphors "a bird in the hand is worth two in a tree" or something like that.

I stated right in thread title what Kerry said a was a joke, and it was a BAD joke. I am sure that Kerry is not advocating that someone go and kill Bush, I just think he should have had a better choice of words.
Here is a link to a site with the video Kerry on Maher
Warning it is a right win site, so you lefties should avoid it or else you may be exposed to things you don't want to see, like the truth ;)

BTW: I will change threat title since so many people are upset about it, and it is not clear what Kerry was saying. Not sure he even knew what he was trying to say.

Ps. Got to love Maher's fake laugh at the joke.
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Does anyone seriously think he meant anything more than if he was elected (and hence went to the white house) he would have solved the real problems of the nation?

Originally posted by: DonVito
Jeez - talk about much ado about nothing. Kerry never "openly admit[ted] to thinking about killing the President," nor did he joke about it. I would have thought any native speaker of English would understand what he said, but apparently I would be wrong. His comment had exactly nothing to do with killing anyone.

^^ Reread ^^

EDIT: Regardless of what the brilliant republicans on this board would like Kerry to say, his statement is unarguably ambiguous.
 

shira

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Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: blackangst1To me, it shows he is still licking his wounds from 2000.

The entire country is licking the wounds inflicted by GWB. And we'll be dealing with those wounds for the next 20 years.