Kellyanne Conway - 'Go buy Ivanka's stuff'

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fskimospy

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Broke federal law, lock her up.

Pretty sure jailing someone over saying something stupid might be a LITTLE extreme, haha. She should get a letter of reprimand at least though.

More importantly this should make it harder for congress to ignore the tremendous potential (and let's face it, almost certainly practical) corruption present in this administration. I know they won't go even remotely as far as they should, but hopefully they at least will do SOMETHING.
 

raildogg

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Trump has his son in law as his chief advisor - a man who has a huge real estate empire in NYC, where Trump is from. Trump himself is a billionaire with a shady past.

Shouldn't that be more cause for "concern" than this Ivanka stuff?
 

VRAMdemon

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1prophet

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Yes the Democratic Tribe who saw this shit show coming lost to Trump. And somehow they are responsible for this? Please explain to me how the people who voted against this this shit show are equivalent to those who voted for it? Only in your false equivalency world.

Yes they are responsible for their part in this because they should have seen this coming,

It started back when the Democrats decided to give up on the worker class (who they call deplorables today) so they can eat at the corporate pig trough like the republicans, wine and dine with their favorite 1% celebrities, wall street bankers, etc. while pretending to care for the little people every 2 or 4 years for their votes unlike in the past where it was genuine care 365 days of the year.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ing-class-voters-democrats-donald-trump#img-1
I am a Democrat in rural, red-state America. My party abandoned us
I come from rural Texas. I am one of the handful of people here who votes blue – and I put up with all kinds of ridicule and rejection because of that. Many of the people who voted for Trump are my friends and family. Yes, some of them are racist but not all of them are. The reason they support Trump is simple: their needs have been thrown aside for years.

Donald Trump is a horrible person. I am glad people are protesting him. But many people here do not see an alternative. The Democratic party does not care about our issues, our culture or our people. There are hundreds of towns in this country just like ours. Well, Donald Trump came and said he cared. That’s why he won: it is not rocket science. We need to look at the truth so we can bring about change.

People here are losing everything that generations of families have worked to build. They depend on their churches for help. They believe people should work hard. Most of us work six to seven days a week, every week. It is no good to judge us instead of understanding us.

We have two private prisons in this town that sustain us in this crunch. Do I agree with private prisons? No. At the same time, if our prisons close it will wipe us out. Not one blue politician has offered a plan to deal with what happens to us then.

It’s the same with climate change. My hometown flourished for years because of oil. Now that the price of oil is down, this town lives on one-third of the budget they had. Nobody in Washington DC cares about that either. No wonder so many people in coal country voted for Trump: they were worried about their jobs and income, and they felt that he was the only one listening.

The people who are writing us all off as racists and deplorables have not seen the community and kindness that exists here. When our elementary school burned down the year before last the whole community everyone dug deep to find the money to buy and build a new school.

In my community, I see a mother whose kid has been in the hospital for a month come home and start her coat drive the next day. I see another mother who spends the month of October collecting junk and selling it for money to send care packages to the military overseas.

I see another woman build one of the state’s best animal rescue centers. She makes sure that everyone can afford to get their pet neutered. I see her spend every Saturday driving 40 miles for dogs to find a home. I see the local community board provide me with space to make a community garden that is free so everyone in town will have access to organic food.

Rural culture is as important as any other culture and is often thought of as backwards, dumb and redneck. At university, people assumed I was stupid because of my accent. A colleague said right in front of me that my southern accent and enthusiasm should be overlooked because, actually, I was smart. Now that Trump has won, I see countless people say that my community – and communities like mine – voted him because we are ignorant and bad-hearted. How is that going to help things?

I completely understand why people voted for Trump. I do not agree with it but I understand it. If people want things to change they need to understand us too: we are hurting. We need help to turn our communities around – otherwise, people like Trump will continue to get votes here.
 
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Catriona

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/318791-conways-hawking-for-ivanka-triggers-outcry

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, followed with a letter to panel Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) requesting disciplinary action for Conway.

Chaffetz responded by saying that Conway’s remarks were “clearly over the line” and “unacceptable.”

Chaffetz and Cummings are “jointly going to send a letter to the White House and Office of Government Ethics for a referral,” a spokesperson said.

Complaints about the matter to the Office of Government Ethics appeared to crash its website, which was down most of the day Thursday. The agency tweeted that it its website, phone system and email systems had been besieged by “an extraordinary volume of contacts from citizens about recent events.”
 

emperus

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Yes they are responsible for their part in this because they should have seen this coming,

It started back when the Democrats decided to give up on the worker class (who they call deplorables today) so they can eat at the corporate pig trough like the republicans, wine and dine with their favorite 1% celebrities, wall street bankers, etc. while pretending to care for the little people every 2 or 4 years for their votes unlike in the past where it was genuine care 365 days of the year.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ing-class-voters-democrats-donald-trump#img-1
I am a Democrat in rural, red-state America. My party abandoned us

I see you got all your right wing talking points in line. When you've moved on from those points, tell me 1 thing you would have liked to see the Democratic party do that they didn't.
 

MrPickins

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It started back when the Democrats decided to give up on the worker class (who they call deplorables today)

You're an idiot if you still think this.

The "deplorables" adjective was used to describe the racist/sexist/all around shitty fringe of Trump supporters, not the average one.
 

Balt

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I'll be surprised if this isn't considered the most corrupt presidential administration ever...


After the first year in office.
 
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Balt

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You really think it's going to take that long?

Haha, well it's going to be an uphill battle to get some people to realize it. The DoJ and Congress clearly aren't going to help, so we'll have to rely on 'fake news' organizations like CNN, which many of his supporters will never believe.
 

ivwshane

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I say that we people need to look beyond politicians and look to make this world better through our way of living.

Let's put away all the barriers that divide us and work together to make it better. Put away your D's and R's. Put away your race and religion.

Forget the lying politicians that belong to the corrupt and immoral system. The system cannot be changed because the people you are voting for are part of that system.

Again, if people can't agree on the facts then there is no discussion to be had.

In your reality, Clinton is another corrupt politician, in the real world she was exactly the politician and the kinds of person you claim we should all be, bi partisan, a centrist, and someone willing to listen to any good idea.

But by all means, continue spouting your bullshit and I'll continue calling you out on it.
 

Vic

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The media can't force him to do anything. You see, when they reviled him and smeared him as they did all during the campaign, they lost all leverage -- he didn't care about what they said because there was nothing they could say that would negatively impact him anymore.

You see, exactly this is what makes the rest of America believe that Trumpers are gullible. The media 'reviled and smeared' Trump because he refused to be held accountable to our political traditions intended to limit corruption in elected officials. The simplest analogy that I can think of is that you hired someone without a background check because he convinced you that the companies that do the background checks can't be trusted.
 

zinfamous

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Trump has his son in law as his chief advisor - a man who has a huge real estate empire in NYC, where Trump is from. Trump himself is a billionaire with a shady past.

Shouldn't that be more cause for "concern" than this Ivanka stuff?

dude, this is all part of the same problem, so no reason to fret over the issues that "distract" from the Turnip--they are all part of the Turnip.

Further, the more of this kind of nonsense that emerges--of its own inertia, mind you--the more the general public will wake up and realize how endemic the scum is within this family and its new federal cabal of moral miscreants.
 

zinfamous

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I'll be surprised if this isn't considered the most corrupt presidential administration ever...


After the first year in office.

US Grant and WG Harding are high-fiv-ering each other right now, lighting up big cigars and toasting bourbon snifters--not entirely unlike those 1978 old-ass Miami Dolphins jagoffs every football season.
 
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zinfamous

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You see, exactly this is what makes the rest of America believe that Trumpers are gullible. The media 'reviled and smeared' Trump because he refused to be held accountable to our political traditions intended to limit corruption in elected officials. The simplest analogy that I can think of is that you hired someone without a background check because he convinced you that the companies that do the background checks can't be trusted.

Dear god that is an eternally quotable summation of the general state of public malaise, despair, and more specifically: today's conservatives' fear and anger (..of having entirely too much power over the last 8 years?).
 
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FIVR

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I would just like to remind everyone in this thread that Kellyanne Conway is terrible and deserves every bit of backstabbing, public shaming and recriminations that Trump will undoubtedly bestow upon her. Let us not feel sorry for her, but rejoice! Let us rejoice that Kellyanne Conway may learn a lesson today.


Trump is too stupid to learn lessons so let's also not delude ourselves into thinking he's learning anything from any of this.
 

ch33zw1z

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Yea, figured she'd be in jail by now, where's all the peeps chanting lock her up now?
 
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Yea, figured she'd be in jail by now, where's all the peeps chanting lock her up now?
I'm sure they'll be around soon enough calling for a presidential edict since the courts clearly are treasonous and all aligned with Hillary to make dear leader look bad since she didn't win.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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No, I'm practicing reality.
Again, if people can't agree on the facts then there is no discussion to be had.

You mean, your reality, and your facts? So far ITT you've called people directly responding in this thread, no less than responsible for the current administration issues, despite not knowing a damned thing about how they voted or who they are. As a remarkable twist most probably *agree* with you on the fact that voters are responsible, but you've invented a dragon here to slay. You're attempting to lump anyone who does not see things *exactly as you do* into the camp of 'deplorables' that exists outside your circle. This is how you make enemies, and how you do NOT gain support for your side. And no amount of righteous indignation is going to change that, so by all means thrash and groan at how much other people are responsible for your plight, instead of acknowledging that you aren't the only sane one on the ship.

Take two deep breaths before you respond (to any thread).
 
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JMC2000

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Sean Spicer: "I will say that she (Kellyanne) has been counseled" lol.

She was sent to the timeout chair
I read this, and what popped in my head was: "Little lady, you go sit in that corner, think about what you did, and why it was wrong". Yet, five minutes later, she comes back saying "what I said was wrong, and I'm sorry" (not actually meaning it), and is allowed to go back outside, where she basically does it again.

Sorta like how I used to handle being put in time out... Hmm, maybe I should make some connections to be part of Trump's administration.

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