Kellyanne Conway - 'Go buy Ivanka's stuff'

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HomerJS

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I do? Can you explain how I flip flopped? I said what Conway said was inappropriate. ..... where's the flip flop? Are you responding to those voices in your head again? :D
Inappropriate enough to be actionable?
 

Caesar

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Sean Spicer: "I will say that she (Kellyanne) has been counseled" lol.

She was sent to the timeout chair
 

ivwshane

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On ChapoTrapHouse they were talking about how hypocrisy means absolutely nothing anymore. The GOP reps and senators have absolutely no principles, as long as Trump has enough support, they will not challenge him. If it dips enough, they'll impeach him in a heartbeat.

(To be clear, the democrats are no better. If Trump's approval ratings were reversed they'd be falling over each other to post racist shit on twitter and book rooms in his hotels. The Schumer-Pelosi party needs to go.)

You are the problem. You are why such behavior and tactics continued to be used by the GOP. They have nothing to lose when people think both sides are the same.
 

Jaskalas

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I think Conway saying "go buy Ivanka stuff" is completely inappropriate. I understand why she said it, but it's not appropriate for a government official to do.

They clearly do not view themselves as government officials. Public servants, the Trump Admin is not.
 

PokerGuy

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Inappropriate enough to be actionable?

Possibly. I think it was inappropriate, but if what she said was against the law (and I don't know enough about it one way or the other), then the question is what is the appropriate action. I doubt anything will happen either way.
 

MongGrel

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Inappropriate enough to be actionable?

It is in clear violation of the law.

But who cares about that these days I suppose.

Next thing you know she'll be saying it was an alternative truth, and Trump will tweet it never happened.

And this is on minor things :p
 

Hayabusa Rider

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It is in clear violation of the law.

But who cares about that these days I suppose.

Next thing you know she'll be saying it was an alternative truth, and Trump will tweet it never happened.

And this is on minor things :p


Been reading about this. Apparently this isn't criminal as I thought it might be. Instead this is an issue of ethics would be a basis for reprimand/sanctions/termination by her superior. As that is Trump expect a slap on the back or butt as the case may be.
 

Blackjack200

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You are the problem. You are why such behavior and tactics continued to be used by the GOP. They have nothing to lose when people think both sides are the same.

I could have stated that a little better. They are certainly not the same generally, but when it comes to political opportunism, they can be just as bad.
 

raildogg

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This world is losing dignity, decency, morality, humility and any quality that resembles honor.

From the top to bottom. The current regime is just an example of the crumbling society and world. It's not just them, people in general are falling.
 
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Maxima1

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I was suspicious of that as well, but from what I've seen he doesn't seem like a bad guy so wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Particularly if Trump could pull his nomination somehow.

What do you consider a bad guy then? He's a textualist. His rulings indicate he'll vote like Scalia.
 

emperus

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This world is losing dignity, decency, morality, humility and any quality that resembles honor.

From the top to bottom. The current regime is just an example of the crumbling society and world. It's not just them, people in general are falling.

No the current regime is an example of the Republicans who have lost dignity, decency, morality and humility and any quality that resembles honor. Remember, we had a past Democratic President who wouldn't have done any of this.

Again, false equivalency.
 

zinfamous

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White House is looking more and more like Yogurt's hideout.

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[DHT]Osiris

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No the current regime is an example of the Republicans who have lost dignity, decency, morality and humility and any quality that resembles honor. Remember, we had a past Democratic President who wouldn't have done any of this.

Again, false equivalency.

Eh... try not to generalize too much. Remember that the Democratic tribe *lost* to Trump. Not blaming them, just saying we are all in the same jostling boat, pointing fingers doesn't help anything (even if it feels good for your tribe to win).
 

MongGrel

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Been reading about this. Apparently this isn't criminal as I thought it might be. Instead this is an issue of ethics would be a basis for reprimand/sanctions/termination by her superior. As that is Trump expect a slap on the back or butt as the case may be.

Is the Trump hotel still operating in the old post office in a lease violation ? I think it was a post office, that would be more obvious.

He's knocking the pay to play out of the park, thought he was gonna get rid of that.

:rolleyes:
 
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raildogg

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No the current regime is an example of the Republicans who have lost dignity, decency, morality and humility and any quality that resembles honor. Remember, we had a past Democratic President who wouldn't have done any of this.

Again, false equivalency.
Are we humans first or are we party followers first?

Partisanship is not going to help with this mess we are in.
 

zinfamous

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An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives.

They get by on a technicality. Trump and his family actually have no friends (this is pretty much verified reporting from primary sources of many of those close to Trump, about Trump--I'm just extrapolating that to his family). Nor, for that matter, does Kellyanne. I mean, think about it--how do you remain friends with someone who's loyalty is bought by the first shiny object that grabs her attention?
 
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HomerJS

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Been reading about this. Apparently this isn't criminal as I thought it might be. Instead this is an issue of ethics would be a basis for reprimand/sanctions/termination by her superior. As that is Trump expect a slap on the back or butt as the case may be.
Or just get her pussy fingered by boss.

Trump: Next time you hawk Trump products don't be so obvious (inserts finger)
KAC: Yes, Mr. President
 

emperus

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Eh... try not to generalize too much. Remember that the Democratic tribe *lost* to Trump. Not blaming them, just saying we are all in the same jostling boat, pointing fingers doesn't help anything (even if it feels good for your tribe to win).

Yes the Democratic Tribe who saw this shit show coming lost to Trump. And somehow they are responsible for this? Please explain to me how the people who voted against this this shit show are equivalent to those who voted for it? Only in your false equivalency world.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Yes the Democratic Tribe who saw this shit show coming lost to Trump. And somehow they are responsible for this? Please explain to me how the people who voted against this this shit show are equivalent to those who voted for it? Only in your false equivalency world.

Calm down there sparky. I said *in the comment you quoted* that I'm not blaming them for the election of Trump, or the current 'situation' we're in. I was trying to point out that chewing on each others legs isn't going to help anything.

What I will posit is that the Democratic Party (as in, the DNC), by virtue of self-cannibalization, managed to kill off the candidate that would likely have ripped Trump apart, and *not* appeared to be a batshit crazy harpy, possibly also a felon. Please note that I'm not blaming *the democratic tribe*, just the tribal leaders. Nobody should be seeing their leaders as infallible this election cycle.