Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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spacejamz

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If anyone submits an affidavit under penalty of perjury that has known connection to a candidate for the Supreme Court and whose allegations are potentially disqualifying and not obviously psychotic or fabricated (e.g. I witnessed him getting anal probed by a green alien), then I really can't find a rationale to not investigate the allegations. Can you? You keep asserting they are not credible, but I haven't seen you or anyone else provide any evidence of any kind that supports this. They are people with known connections to Kavanaugh and telling accounts of behavior consistent with what has been claimed publicly and under penalty of perjury. Their affidavits include statements that they can name corroborating witnesses. Seriously, how could you dismiss them as not worthy of investigation?

Again, why where these affadavits/statements not given before last Friday? The Democrats have known about this since June and they wait until after a special investigation is announced to make this information about these new witnesses public?? Why wouldn't the democrats try to get this information before the hearing??
 
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soundforbjt

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Yeah that's wishful thinking. Sure, they're riled up for the moment but once this vote comes through and they get their shithead white guy on the court they will be soothed and go back to watching NASCAR. It would've riled them up if they hadn't gotten what they wanted but now the democrats will cream them in November.
They're always riled up about something, that's how the GOP keeps them voting.
 
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Republicans are always riled up though, so that's common mode. What matters in these elections is whether Democrats turn out their voters or not.

Yeah but a good wholesome conservative judge that loves beer getting picked on? He cried you know....

That just rustles their jimmies
 

Maxima1

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See my post earlier... Reuters seems to indicate that this has riled up Republicans more for the mid-terms.

Which kind of makes sense - Democrats have the nutjobs that show up to the Kavanaugh hearing and scream and yell - but their average voter probably doesn't even know whats going on... Or at least, they don't care enough to miss an episode of their favorite TV show to care.

We have roughly a month, so this Kavanaugh boost could fade. There is speculation that confirming him will more likely help Democrats because the Republicans will go back being complacent.

The bolded part is just moronic. Kavanaugh perjured more than a dozen times, never mind the completely absurd and disqualifying performance he brought when it was his turn. Remember Bill Clinton? Now all of a sudden perjury doesn't matter, even for a SC seat. Republicans don't care because they are authoritarian and eat up bullshit from Fox and the rest.
 
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We have roughly a month, so this Kavanaugh boost could fade. There is speculation that confirming him will more likely help Democrats because the Republicans will go back being complacent.

The bolded part is just moronic. Kavanaugh perjured more than a dozen times, never mind the completely absurd and disqualifying performance he brought when it was his turn. Remember Bill Clinton? Now all of a sudden perjury doesn't matter, even for a SC seat. Republicans don't care because they are authoritarian and eat up bullshit from Fox and the rest.

The bolded is moronic? Screaming and shouting stupid statements and obscenities from the mouths of dumb bitches like Lena Dunham is moronic. It will never get you anywhere in life - and if anything such actions are more likely to work against you.
 

fskimospy

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See my post earlier... Reuters seems to indicate that this has riled up Republicans more for the mid-terms.

Which kind of makes sense - Democrats have the nutjobs that show up to the Kavanaugh hearing and scream and yell - but their average voter probably doesn't even know whats going on... Or at least, they don't care enough to miss an episode of their favorite TV show to care.

There’s little indication of this from actual statistical analysis of the polls. The generic ballot continues to sway within the same bounds it has for months.

Also, as for what this means for the midterms as I said before you may want to consider that the access Hollywood tape came out on October 7th. People forget more quickly than you might think.
 
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We have roughly a month, so this Kavanaugh boost could fade. There is speculation that confirming him will more likely help Democrats because the Republicans will go back being complacent.

The bolded part is just moronic. Kavanaugh perjured more than a dozen times, never mind the completely absurd and disqualifying performance he brought when it was his turn. Remember Bill Clinton? Now all of a sudden perjury doesn't matter, even for a SC seat. Republicans don't care because they are authoritarian and eat up bullshit from Fox and the rest.
Tell you what, list only 10 times he perjured himself? Hell, i'd settle for 5.

See if you can find a semen stained blue dress at the same time for evidence.
 
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There’s little indication of this from actual statistical analysis of the polls.

Also, as for what this means for the midterms as I said before you may want to consider that the access Hollywood tape came out on October 7th. People forget more quickly than you might think.
Elephants never forget.:D
 

JSt0rm

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Buying gold and silver?

Well a depression would probably not be tied to inflation. There would probably be no inflation in an environment where everyone is working and selling for less. However if there isnt a depression and its just the runaway trump train of inflation gold would be a good bet.

https://www.etf.com/GLD#overview

gld was a bubble when all the teaparty retards bought in. Anyone want to weigh in on what it looks like now? Looks like a good buy.
 

fleshconsumed

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LOL guys, this fight looks to be over. There is no point in speculating who this helps more. We're only a month away from midterms. We'll find out in a month. In the meantime to all the dems, stay energized and go vote. Convince as many other dems/independants to go out and vote too.
 

theeedude

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Yes, go vote, and reach out to young women, make sure they understand that an accused rapist is going to decide what reproductive services they get access to, if any.
 

jackstar7

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The bolded is moronic? Screaming and shouting stupid statements and obscenities from the mouths of dumb bitches like Lena Dunham is moronic. It will never get you anywhere in life - and if anything such actions are more likely to work against you.
So why do you do it?
 
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LOL guys, this fight looks to be over. There is no point in speculating who this helps more. We're only a month away from midterms. We'll find out in a month. In the meantime to all the dems, stay energized and go vote. Convince as many other dems/independants to go out and vote too.
Early voting starts Oct. 22nd for Republicans in Texas.

Please all Democrats remember to vote on Wednesday Nov. 7th.
 

Starbuck1975

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Oh please. They "listened" to Ford because it gave the appearance of giving a shit.
Why bother?

How would that overshadow Kavanaugh's complete meltdown and totally disqualifying opening statement? You're not making a reasonable argument here.
I don’t think we’re on the same timeline. There were legitimate objections to Kavanaugh well before anyone knew about Ford. Booker opened that line of attack, and then it sort of just fizzled out.

I don’t blame Kavanaugh for getting scrappy under the circumstances. I also think it strengthens the argument against him. That’s why I said SNL has a better sense for political strategy than the Democrats.

The president is a politician, and it isn't a lifetime position. Kavanaugh's lying is potentially hiding criminal behavior, while Clinton's was not.
Perjury is perjury, position or implications are irrelevant. Clinton doesn’t get a pass. Neither does Kavanaugh. You either condemn or excuse both.

Here's the link to Santorum's BS. Scroll down to video. Santorum argues that groping isn't a "high crime or misdemeanor". Republicans are able to readily do a 180 depending on if there's a (D) or (R) with the name, which the conservative media helps them do effortlessly.

https://twitter.com/RickSantorum/status/940573852106723328
I am not challenging your point that the GOP are hypocrites.
 

JSt0rm

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well all we have to do is get control then start up the ol' kav rape investigation then impeach him.
 

spacejamz

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and it still hard to believe there has not been a shred of corroborating evidence
Yes, go vote, and reach out to young women, make sure they understand that an accused rapist is going to decide what reproductive services they get access to, if any.

Accused? Where criminal charges ever filed? Or just accused in the court of public opinion where no physical evidence is needed? or even memory of the exact time and place? or the people you name to corroborate your story can't remember either....
 
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Maxima1

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Why bother?

Duh. It looks really bad. They rather pretend there's some semblance of a process similar to how they talk from both sides of their mouth about the credibility of Ford.

I don’t think we’re on the same timeline. There were legitimate objections to Kavanaugh well before anyone knew about Ford. Booker opened that line of attack, and then it sort of just fizzled out.

This doesn't make any sense. If Kavanaugh himself didn't sink the confirmation nor the sham FBI investigation, then nothing would have. They were all going to vote for him anyway.

I don’t blame Kavanaugh for getting scrappy under the circumstances. I also think it strengthens the argument against him. That’s why I said SNL has a better sense for political strategy than the Democrats.

Kavanaugh had a prepared statement, so it wasn't just an emotional outburst.

Perjury is perjury, position or implications are irrelevant. Clinton doesn’t get a pass. Neither does Kavanaugh. You either condemn or excuse both.

That's rich. Trump is at over 5000+ lies and many of them disgrace the presidency. The fact is that the president is a politician and Clinton's lie wasn't even over something criminal. There was no reason to start impeachment over that. Kavanaugh, on the other hand, is basically doing a job interview that everyone being honest knows he failed at.


I am not challenging your point that the GOP are hypocrites.

Okay. But you keep pretending that Democrats could have done something. The base would stick to kavanaugh even if he sexually assaulted one of the Dems during the hearing.
 

Blackjack200

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Yes, go vote, and reach out to young women, make sure they understand that an accused rapist is going to decide what reproductive services they get access to, if any.

White women voted Trump into office a month after the Access Hollywood tape came out. How long are we going to hang onto the fiction that women, as a group, care about rape, contraception, access to abortion, etc?

They clearly don't. They've demonstrated that they don't. They've told you they don't. Ultimately, this is not about gender or sex, decorum, due process, fairness, or anything except power. This is about power, and the ability of a small ruling class to ram a ludicrously unfit juror down our throats. I'm certainly not the first to say it, but it's so much the better for them that he's such an obvious ghoul, it makes the message that much clearer.

So yeah, go ahead and vote, but again, there is not even a fig leaf of democracy in this process, so it's hard to me to see a democratic solution.
 
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Damn just realized there will be four justices on the Supreme Court who were appointed by presidents who failed to win a majority of the vote.
 
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Maxima1

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Damn just realized there will be four justices on the Supreme Court who were appointed by presidents who failed to win a majority of the vote.

Yep. i brought this up before. While Bush's came after his first term, he benefited from incumbency, 9/11, and the war for reelection. It's a real joke.
 

theeedude

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and it still hard to believe there has not been a shred of corroborating evidence
Accused? Where criminal charges ever filed? Or just accused in the court of public opinion where no physical evidence is needed? or even memory of the exact time and place? or the people you name to corroborate your story can't remember either....
Accused means exactly what it means, accused. You are welcome to believe he was a virgin who never got wasted in college and just likes beer and didn't lie to Congress.
 

ch33zw1z

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Yeah but a good wholesome conservative judge that loves beer getting picked on? He cried you know....

That just rustles their jimmies

Which guy was that. I saw a whiney, baby; who's lived a life of privilege throw a tantrum. No wonder Trump picked him, birds of a feather.
 

fskimospy

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and it still hard to believe there has not been a shred of corroborating evidence

Accused? Where criminal charges ever filed? Or just accused in the court of public opinion where no physical evidence is needed? or even memory of the exact time and place? or the people you name to corroborate your story can't remember either....

It’s weird that Republicans keep trying this transparently dishonest argument where they claim there is no corroborating evidence while explicitly preventing the FBI from establishing it and simply ignoring all the sworn statements (under penalty of perjury) in support of Kavanaugh’s dishonesty.

Is this one of those things where you guys lack object permanence so if you ignore it it doesn’t exist?

There is a large amount of evidence that Kavanaugh repeatedly perjured himself. If that doesn’t matter to you that’s your business.
 
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