Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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Maxima1

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Considering some statements by Democrats, this may be the better outcome for Democrats. Had Republicans been able to pick someone equally bad after a failed confirmation, the Democrats may have wrung their hands and done nothing. At least there's some hope that losing "some" legitimacy may lead to Democrats packing the court and giving statehood to some US territories.

I agree with retired Justice John Paul Stevens. I believe the Supreme Court would, in the eyes of many, lose some legitimacy if Kavanaugh got a lifetime appointment. -- Ted Lieu
 

sportage

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NOW it's all about turnout in November, and frankly I really doubt these outraged democrats and especially the mad as hell women end up turning out.
We've seen this outrage before and hinging all that outrage on an election.
And guess what?
Never happened....
Trump won, Hillary lost, outrage failed.
Bush won, Gore lost, outrage failed.
Bush won, Kerry lost, outrage failed.
Presidential, midterm, it doesn't matter....
We have a huge disconnect between outrage and the voting booth.
Yelling and screaming in protest is not outrage. Showing up at the polls is outrage.
WHY is that sooooo hard for these lazy people to understand?
Don't they know how the process works?
You save your anger for the ballot, not Facebook.
 

JSt0rm

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well I just want to say after this entire confirmation that has damaged the senate and opened wounds in our country regarding sexual assault and what not...














I still like beer.
 

fskimospy

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I'm really enjoying all the bitching and moaning here today. The Democrats fought dirty and still lost. Now let's see the fallout from this in the next several weeks. Will Ford's lies be exposed and this politicalization of the #Metoo movement prove to be its undoing? I mean, we even have the soccer star Ronaldo facing accusation of rape 8/9 years AFTER he settled the case, all because the "victim" wanted to return to the trough for more money. I pray to G-d Kavanaugh remembers what the Democrats did to him when he's on that bench. The Notorious RBG better hang tight because she's getting up there in years and Trump isn't going anywhere.It'd be a shame if she were to croak when it wasn't her turn to croak...

So in other words you hope Kavanaugh’s decisions are biased against Democrats because you think they were mean to him.

There is something wrong with your brain.
 

fskimospy

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Manchin is a yes. I called it perfectly.


Big win for Democrats today. As long as Kav gets on the court we will be in great shape for the midterms. It sucks that we get a rapist for a Supreme Court Justice but white women have nobody to blame besides themselves for this. Next time vote democrat and you'll still have control over your body.

I don’t think you called it the way you think. Manchin was always going to be a yes unless his vote was decisive, in which case he would have voted no.
 
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If anyone submits an affidavit under penalty of perjury that has known connection to a candidate for the Supreme Court and whose allegations are potentially disqualifying and not obviously psychotic or fabricated (e.g. I witnessed him getting anal probed by a green alien), then I really can't find a rationale to not investigate the allegations. Can you? You keep asserting they are not credible, but I haven't seen you or anyone else provide any evidence of any kind that supports this. They are people with known connections to Kavanaugh and telling accounts of behavior consistent with what has been claimed publicly and under penalty of perjury. Their affidavits include statements that they can name corroborating witnesses. Seriously, how could you dismiss them as not worthy of investigation?
If they were credible, both of these were not. In the case of Ramirez she admitted to being pass out drunk and her memory was so screwed up it took 6 days of being convinced by a lawyer for her to continue with her charges. No corroborating witness was ever found.
Swetnick was even worse in her ridiculous gang rape accusations most of which she walked back on in the NBC interview. Especially the one when Kavanaugh either raped her of "spiked" the punch. Again, not credible.

They were investigated and not found to be credible, you're talking about additional investigation after they were dismissed by any reasonable person.
 

JSt0rm

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So in other words you hope Kavanaugh’s decisions are biased against Democrats because you think they were mean to him.

There is something wrong with your brain.

Well thats not wrong. the old kav is gonna be bitter as hell and ready for 40 years of revenge.
 
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Manchin is a yes. I called it perfectly.


Big win for Democrats today. As long as Kav gets on the court we will be in great shape for the midterms. It sucks that we get a rapist for a Supreme Court Justice but white women have nobody to blame besides themselves for this. Next time vote democrat and you'll still have control over your body.
Ohh yeah, a BIG WIN for Democrats! Are you getting tired of all your BIG WINS yet? BIGLY WINS!

lmao, you're just so damn cute.
 
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K1052

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Well thats not wrong. the old kav is gonna be bitter as hell and ready for 40 years of revenge.

I mean screaming "what comes around goes around" at senators who oppose your nomination seems pretty impartial right?
 

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I don't think it's the worst case outcome for Democrats. It's pretty clear that GOP was going to put some right winger on the court, but this particular one helps de-legitimize the right wing court the most. Can you imagine an accused rapist justice ruling to limit women's reproductive rights?

I don't give a flying F whether it good or bad for the Democratic Party, or the GOP for that matter. What matters most to me are my rights as a citizen and the continued viability and improvement of our form of government. Both have taken another huge hit.
 
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ol donnie is gonna get us all nuked anyhow. Who cares if another white rich shithead is on the supreme court. He certainly isnt the first. Women should of voted better if they wanted rights.
 

FIVR

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I don’t think you called it the way you think. Manchin was always going to be a yes unless his vote was decisive, in which case he would have voted no.

Oh come on, there were at least 8 different permutations of senators announcing their "yes" votes that I could've predicted. You guys will never give me the credit I deserve for being a prophet.
 

fskimospy

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If anyone submits an affidavit under penalty of perjury that has known connection to a candidate for the Supreme Court and whose allegations are potentially disqualifying and not obviously psychotic or fabricated (e.g. I witnessed him getting anal probed by a green alien), then I really can't find a rationale to not investigate the allegations. Can you? You keep asserting they are not credible, but I haven't seen you or anyone else provide any evidence of any kind that supports this. They are people with known connections to Kavanaugh and telling accounts of behavior consistent with what has been claimed publicly and under penalty of perjury. Their affidavits include statements that they can name corroborating witnesses. Seriously, how could you dismiss them as not worthy of investigation?

Just so you know the other day taj said that Rasmussen is the most accurate pollster because it’s the one that gives him the results he likes the best. He’s also said that the best interests of the Republican Party and the best interests of America are the same thing.

So what I’m saying is that there is no convincing him because he is not here to be convinced and he is entirely aware of that fact. He is also clearly aware that that he says here is frequently dishonest and he does it on purpose. For whatever reason that’s his thing and so if you want to reply to him in order to mock him or point out his lies that’s all well and good but if your goal is to make him see the logic of your position he definitely does not care.
 

theeedude

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I don't give a flying F whether it good or bad for the Democratic Party, or the GOP for that matter. What matters most to me are my rights as a citizen and the continued viability and improvement of our form of government. Both have taken another huge hit.
What form of government would that be? Oligarchic kakistocracy parading as a democracy? I would be more concerned about its continued viability than lack thereof.
 

FIVR

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ol donnie is gonna get us all nuked anyhow. Who cares if another white rich shithead is on the supreme court. He certainly isnt the first. Women should of voted better if they wanted rights.

We've got the Great Depression 2 coming right around 2020 when this imbecile runs our economy into the ground with tariffs while simultaneously blowing up the national debt.


I'm setting cash aside every month to buy up real estate when the economy crashes. I'm gonna be the next Fred Trump
 
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Manchin is a yes. I called it perfectly.


Big win for Democrats today. As long as Kav gets on the court we will be in great shape for the midterms. It sucks that we get a rapist for a Supreme Court Justice but white women have nobody to blame besides themselves for this. Next time vote democrat and you'll still have control over your body.

See my post earlier... Reuters seems to indicate that this has riled up Republicans more for the mid-terms.

Which kind of makes sense - Democrats have the nutjobs that show up to the Kavanaugh hearing and scream and yell - but their average voter probably doesn't even know whats going on... Or at least, they don't care enough to miss an episode of their favorite TV show to care.
 
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JSt0rm

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Oh come on, there were at least 8 different permutations of senators announcing their "yes" votes that I could've predicted. You guys will never give me the credit I deserve for being a prophet.

nostrafivr knew.
 
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soundforbjt

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Well, Brat was right about one thing..."What happens at Georgetown Prep, stays at Georgetown Prep."
 

theeedude

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Republicans are always riled up though, so that's common mode. What matters in these elections is whether Democrats turn out their voters or not.
 
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JSt0rm

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We've got the Great Depression 2 coming right around 2020 when this imbecile runs our economy into the ground with tariffs while simultaneously blowing up the national debt.


I'm setting cash aside every month to buy up real estate when the economy crashes. I'm gonna be the next Fred Trump

Im stacking cash now as well. I want enough on hand to coast through a depression.
 

FIVR

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See my post earlier... Reuters seems to indicate that this has riled up Republicans more for the mid-terms.

Which kind of makes sense - Democrats have the nutjobs that show up to the Kavanaugh hearing and scream and yell - but their average voter probably doesn't even know whats going on... Or at least, they don't care enough to miss an episode of their favorite TV show to care.


Yeah that's wishful thinking. Sure, they're riled up for the moment but once this vote comes through and they get their shithead white guy on the court they will be soothed and go back to watching NASCAR. It would've riled them up if they hadn't gotten what they wanted but now the democrats will cream them in November.
 

K1052

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See my post earlier... Reuters seems to indicate that this has riled up Republicans more for the mid-terms.

Which kind of makes sense - Democrats have the nutjobs that show up to the Kavanaugh hearing and scream and yell - but their average voter probably doesn't even know whats going on... Or at least, they don't care enough to miss an episode of their favorite TV show to care.

The Kavanaugh drama has shored up GOP enthusiasm a bit but after he's confirmed there's little to support that through the elections. Many Dem strategists wanted him confirmed soon to rob the Republicans of this advantage and make their own voters even more motivated. Looks to me that's how this will go.