Karl Rove Focuses On Defeating The Tea Party

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This, if true could get real interesting....


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/03/karl-rove-focuses-on-defeating-the-tea-party/

Karl Rove and his allies have now wheeled out their newest weapon in this attempt to wrest power out of the conservatives of the Tea Party, a new SuperPAC named the Conservative Victory Project. The project’s goal is simple, to run the candidate who can win, regardless of political ideology, who will then in turn push their corporatist agenda.
American Crossroads president Steven Law is directly operating this new organization. In an interview with the New York Times, Law was clear that his group was intentionally targeting those he, and those he is affiliated with, feel are not able to win. In the interview, it is clear that Law views any candidate associated with the Tea Party as fair game.
 

BoberFett

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According to Democrats, isn't the Tea Party already a bunch of corporate stooges? Shouldn't that dovetail with Rove's plans?

This thread will likely cause a few mental breakdowns among Democrats.
 

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Neoconservatives gotta make their come back, too bad, it almost seemed like they were dying off :(
 

soundforbjt

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Neoconservatives gotta make their come back, too bad, it almost seemed like they were dying off :(

Well, the TP guys didn't really help repubs much this election and gave the dems most of their ammo for the WoW. They've been getting pushed around for a while by the TP fringe in the House as well, They may be tiring of the group they helped flourish.
 
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irishScott

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So how many Super PACs are there now, and what's the difference between a PAC and a Super PAC? During the election it was all "BLAAARRRGH ROMNEY AND HIS SUPERPAC BLARAGHAHAGHAHA CORPORATE MASTERS BLAAA..."

Now it seems like there are as many of them as there were Star Destroyers in the Imperial fleet. So is a PAC like a Victory class and a Super PAC an Imperial class or something? And why are there suddenly so many? I'm confused.
 

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According to Democrats, isn't the Tea Party already a bunch of corporate stooges? Shouldn't that dovetail with Rove's plans?

This thread will likely cause a few mental breakdowns among Democrats.

You gotta read before commenting, brotha.

Rove is moving against them because they keep nominating unelectable crazies, not because their ideology differs. Rove thinks winning is more important than purity, the tea party thinks purity is more important. Different road, same destination.

This thread will likely lead to Boberfett meltdown.
 

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I wish I have the money like these guys to keep flushing down down the proverbial conservative toilet.
 

soundforbjt

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So how many Super PACs are there now, and what's the difference between a PAC and a Super PAC? During the election it was all "BLAAARRRGH ROMNEY AND HIS SUPERPAC BLARAGHAHAGHAHA CORPORATE MASTERS BLAAA..."

Now it seems like there are as many of them as there were Star Destroyers in the Imperial fleet. So is a PAC like a Victory class and a Super PAC an Imperial class or something? And why are there suddenly so many? I'm confused.

Citizens United. Corporations are people...
 

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Sounds like the typical unbiased media source that the Democrats use. AMIRITE eskimo? lol
 
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According to Democrats, isn't the Tea Party already a bunch of corporate stooges? Shouldn't that dovetail with Rove's plans?

This thread will likely cause a few mental breakdowns among Democrats.

I don't think anyone thinks the Tea Party are "corporate stooges" - it's obviously a grass roots movement that consists largely of rural individuals, rather than corporate types. I'm not sure why you think this thread "will likely cause a few mental breakdowns among Democrats" - sounds like you may already have had your own.
 
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Sounds like the typical unbiased media source that the Democrats use. AMIRITE eskimo? lol

The PAC itself most definitely exists, for essentially the very reasons referenced in the OP article. See, e.g., http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ative-victory-project-earns-conservative-ire/ or http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us/politics/top-gop-donors-seek-greater-say-in-senate-races.html

I wouldn't say the PAC exists to destroy the Tea Party per se, but rather to focus on identifying Republican candidates who can win races, as opposed to simply picking the most conservative candidates, period. That being said, I'm sure when Rove is pitching to large corporate donors, he emphasizes that the Tea Party candidates have been responsible for the GOP losing a lot of otherwise winnable races.
 

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The PAC itself most definitely exists, for essentially the very reasons referenced in the OP article. See, e.g., http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ative-victory-project-earns-conservative-ire/ or http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us/politics/top-gop-donors-seek-greater-say-in-senate-races.html

I wouldn't say the PAC exists to destroy the Tea Party per se, but rather to focus on identifying Republican candidates who can win races, as opposed to simply picking the most conservative candidates, period. That being said, I'm sure when Rove is pitching to large corporate donors, he emphasizes that the Tea Party candidates have been responsible for the GOP losing a lot of otherwise winnable races.

That maybe Karl's spin on the issue according to this blog but Romney was through and through a Rove and neo-con pick for this presidential election. He was in no way a palatable pick for anyone who considers themselves a Tea Party member or who adheres to any other conservative school of politics which rejects the neo-con movement within the GOP.

In fact the the big loses suffered by the GOP have been mainly from those who have touted the traditional neocon party symbiotic relationship between the religious right/social conservatives and the neo-conservative movement which espouses big government expansion and control in regards to social issues in a inverted fashion to that of Democrats on those issues.
 

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That maybe Karl's spin on the issue according to this blog but Romney was through and through a Rove and neo-con pick for this presidential election. He was in no way a palatable pick for anyone who considers themselves a Tea Party member or who adheres to any other conservative school of politics which rejects the neo-con movement within the GOP.

In fact the the big loses suffered by the GOP have been mainly from those who have touted the traditional neocon party symbiotic relationship between the religious right/social conservatives and the neo-conservative movement which espouses big government expansion and control in regards to social issues in a inverted fashion to that of Democrats on those issues.

What GOP candidate do you believe would have outperformed Romney?
 
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You gotta read before commenting, brotha.

Rove is moving against them because they keep nominating unelectable crazies, not because their ideology differs. Rove thinks winning is more important than purity, the tea party thinks purity is more important. Different road, same destination.

This thread will likely lead to Boberfett meltdown.

Nominating people who support the Constitution are considered crazies? Thats what real Tea Party is about
 

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If corporations are people, than why don't the republicans just cut to the chase and actually nominate a corporation to run for president?

Why should public and private sectors unions be considered people and allowed to influence our political system? Why should they be allowed to use union dues to fund and support the political campaigns of Democrats and not likewise corporations for the candidate(s) they support? Of which corporations more often then not contributors of both parties a heck of lot more so than unions who by a very large margin are in the pocket of Democrat politicians.
 
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DucatiMonster696

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What GOP candidate do you believe would have outperformed Romney?

Considering that Romney's biggest hindrance was his stance on social issue and his attempts to out democrat Obama on being a democrat when it came to the use of government on spending and economic issues that leads me to firmly believe by a large margin it would of been better to have either Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. Both men would of nullified the Obama's stances on social issues and provided actual real contrast on economic policies and furthered the debate on the role of government in our society along with provided greater debate on the what the role of our military should be overseas, etc.
 
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Why should public and private sectors unions be considered people and allowed to influence our political system?
Why should they be allowed to use union dues to fund and support the political campaigns of Democrats and not likewise corporations? Of which corporations more often then not contributors of both parties, a heck of lot more so than unions who by very large margin are in the pocket of Democrat politicians.[/QUOTE]
I'm against all forms of corporate personhood. But i don't recall it ever being ruled that unions are people.

But let me explain some politics to you.

You see, corporation donate to both parties in hopes of a return via favorable legislation. And favorable legislation often includes removing rights to collective bargaining so the only way for unions to defend themselves is to play the same game and donate union dues to the only party that might be willing to put up a half ased fight for them....
 

trenchfoot

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If corporations are people, than why don't the republicans just cut to the chase and actually nominate a corporation to run for president?

Well, because it's like NASCAR racing, "only different". You have these skilled car drivers (politicians) racing around in a circular race track (eerily similar Congress) in cars (legislation) with sponsor stickers (Corps.) plastered all over it (well hidden and out of sight). The guy (politican) who's actually racing the car (campaigning) gets credit for the win but the folks who really won are the sponsors (Corps.) who get filthy rich profiting from the advertising (secret PAC contributions) the driver (politician) and car (legislation) accepted from and passed for them, yet we can't say "such and such Corp. Sponsor" won the race when in fact they actually did. ;)