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fskimospy

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Well the next time he's likely to hear from them it would concern his indictment.
If he keeps doing it I wouldn't be that shocked for DOJ to get a restraining order, although Musk could pay those fines without difficulty as well so who knows if that's more effective.
 

fskimospy

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Given the whole incident in Brazil I'm not expecting him to make smart choices.
You could certainly argue that the fines are a cost of doing business and he can just ignore them through Election Day.

If you have hundreds of billions of dollars and you only need to eat two weeks of fines there isn’t likely to be an amount they can fine you that matters.

As far as arresting him and putting him in prison that’s not going to happen for something like this and even if it did I see no reason why his being in jail would stop it.
 
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K1052

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You could certainly argue that the fines are a cost of doing business and he can just ignore them through Election Day.

If you have hundreds of billions of dollars and you only need to eat two weeks of fines there isn’t likely to be an amount they can fine you that matters.

As far as arresting him and putting him in prison that’s not going to happen for something like this and even if it did I see no reason why his being in jail would stop it.

Sure that's possible. Could be people at the PAC who actually work the mechanics of this who might not want to engage in criminal activity potentially resulting in a felony conviction though.
 

Muse

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Might. I know they're asking nicely, but until they actually threaten his freedom and wealth, he won't give a fuck.
It will be a nasty on the news, particularly if the DOJ points a spear at Elon. So, regardless of Elon's feels, it would be negative publicity for the Trump campaign.
 
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It will be a nasty on the news, particularly if the DOJ points a spear at Elon. So, regardless of Elon's feels, it would be negative publicity for the Trump campaign.
Nope they’ll give no fucks like they always do in fact they will flaunt it like a badge of honor and as I said above our justice department will do nothing about it that is consequential.
 

ondma

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I think you would agree that the most relevant metric for a state is not its income tax rate but its total tax burden, yes? Not that WalletHub is authoritative or anything but according to that Wisconsin ends up at #26 in total tax burden, so right in the middle. It has a high top income tax bracket (although that only applies to those making over $300k) but a low sales tax rate (42nd in the country) and low effective property tax rate (44th).

So seems like Wisconsin is a pretty standard state to me from a tax perspective.

I live in Minnesota, which by your metric is still #7 in overall tax burden.
 

MrSquished

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I live in Minnesota, which by your metric is still #7 in overall tax burden.
oh you're the guy that has a massive hard on for Walz, then when pressed for facts about your gripes, you posted completely incorrect info. you may live in Minnesota, but you don't live in reality.
 

ondma

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Could you show us on the doll where he touched you?
Right in the wallet, buddy. Even then then I would have been less angry toward Walz if he had not made promises he never delivered about rebates and bipartisanship.
 

repoman0

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From that list, there’s basically nowhere you want to live with a tax burden under 8%. High 9s is right in the middle of the 8-12% range of livable states.

“Taxachusetts” is near the bottom of the livable states, I’m not surprised to see. I’ve always felt the taxes here are incredibly fair and reasonable despite the constant complaints. Best public schools in the country and we generally don’t live our lives surrounded by morons.
 

trenchfoot

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If he keeps doing it I wouldn't be that shocked for DOJ to get a restraining order, although Musk could pay those fines without difficulty as well so who knows if that's more effective.

Would be nice to make the hurt commensurate with the ability to financially cripple a multi-billionaire as it would a laid-off parent with a mortgage, car payments, college tuition for the kids and an ailing parent/grandparent's care home payments to worry about.
 

JujuFish

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From that list, there’s basically nowhere you want to live with a tax burden under 8%. High 9s is right in the middle of the 8-12% range of livable states.

Aside from high property taxes, I have enjoyed my time living in New Hampshire, and it's 49th on the list.
 

repoman0

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Aside from high property taxes, I have enjoyed my time living in New Hampshire, and it's 49th on the list.
“Basically nowhere” … New Hampshire is one exception. It seems nice up there. I wouldn’t be surprised if I end up there myself down the line.
 

dlerious

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Would be nice to make the hurt commensurate with the ability to financially cripple a multi-billionaire as it would a laid-off parent with a mortgage, car payments, college tuition for the kids and an ailing parent/grandparent's care home payments to worry about.
Prohibit him from bidding on government contracts.
 
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