Muse
Lifer
- Jul 11, 2001
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Indus
Lifer
- May 11, 2002
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I think he will say nobody cares what Trump does as opinions of him are fixed so this will have no effect. Somehow he only applies this to people with positive views of Trump though when in reality negative views of him are just as fixed.
So the question to ask is if you think the small percentage of undecided voters are going to be more affected by Harris not doing a photo op (as he thinks) or more affected by Trump giving COVID resources to murderous dictators while Americans were dying by the thousands.
I bet the undecideds won’t hear about either one and so they won’t care but if they did hear about them the answer is pretty easy.
Going out on a limb, I don't believe he's "Russian", or even a secret Trumper. I just don't see that in either of those scenarios he'd bother continuing with it given that there's no sign of it having whatever 'demoralisation' effect it, in that scenario, would be supposed to have.
Seems more likely he's just pathologically pessimistic, or anxious, by nature.
Muse
Lifer
- Jul 11, 2001
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From current story at The New York Times:
Updated
Oct. 8, 2024, 3:45 p.m. ET41 minutes ago
Vice President Kamala Harris, in a blitz of interviews on Tuesday, pitched a proposal to help people raising children while also caring for aging parents and denounced former President Donald J. Trump, calling some of his statements “surreal” and saying he was too friendly with Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin.
On “The View,” Ms. Harris said the former president’s willingness to spread false information during the response to Hurricane Helene shows how he “really lacks empathy on a very basic level.” A couple of hours later, on Howard Stern’s satellite radio show, she faulted Mr. Trump over a new report that he sent Covid tests to Mr. Putin for his personal use at the height of the pandemic.
“Everybody was scrambling to get these kits,” she said, adding, “This guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia, to a murderous dictator, for his personal use.”
Updated
Oct. 8, 2024, 3:45 p.m. ET41 minutes ago
Election Live Updates: Harris Media Push Continues With ‘The View’ and Howard Stern
Vice President Kamala Harris appeared on the ABC daytime talk show and Howard Stern’s radio show before “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” later Tuesday. Former President Donald J. Trump’s virtual town-hall event was postponed.Vice President Kamala Harris, in a blitz of interviews on Tuesday, pitched a proposal to help people raising children while also caring for aging parents and denounced former President Donald J. Trump, calling some of his statements “surreal” and saying he was too friendly with Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin.
On “The View,” Ms. Harris said the former president’s willingness to spread false information during the response to Hurricane Helene shows how he “really lacks empathy on a very basic level.” A couple of hours later, on Howard Stern’s satellite radio show, she faulted Mr. Trump over a new report that he sent Covid tests to Mr. Putin for his personal use at the height of the pandemic.
“Everybody was scrambling to get these kits,” she said, adding, “This guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia, to a murderous dictator, for his personal use.”
- Trump and Putin: The episode with Covid tests that Ms. Harris referred to came from a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward. The book also describes Mr. Trump secretly speaking with Mr. Putin as many as seven times since leaving office, even as he was pressuring Republicans to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders.
- A pro-Palestinian shift: Uncommitted, a national group of activists that emerged from primary-season voters protesting President Biden’s Middle East policy, took a big step toward encouraging its supporters to back Ms. Harris. The video stopped short of an open endorsement of the vice president but said another term for Mr. Trump would be worse than a Harris victory.
- Home care for seniors: Ms. Harris unveiled a plan to expand Medicare to provide home health care to older Americans, who often need the help of the “sandwich generation” — those supporting their parents while also raising children of their own. Her campaign said the program would be paid for by the savings achieved through expanding Medicare drug price negotiations.
- The Times/Siena poll: The new poll found that voters were more likely to see Ms. Harris, not Mr. Trump, as a break from the status quo. While the poll shows some solid advantages for Mr. Trump, the results suggest Ms. Harris is making gains, if small ones, on questions about temperament, trust and change that can be critical in a presidential race.
- The running mates: Mr. Trump’s running mate, Senator JD Vance of Ohio, is campaigning in Michigan. Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota, Ms. Harris’s running mate, has a busy three-city day, hitting Seattle and Sacramento for fund-raisers and Reno, Nev., for a fund-raiser and a rally.
- Sheehy’s past comments: Tim Sheehy, the Republican businessman running in a tight race to unseat Senator Jon Tester of Montana, a Democrat, is facing criticism for resurfaced comments he made at a campaign event last year. He said, according to an audio recording, that young people were “indoctrinated” to support liberal issues and that women who cared about abortion rights should be told that Democrats supported “murder.”
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Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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America First, ya know?
Gotta send them critical supplies to Trump's master, Putin.
I don’t think he’s Russian. Probably not a Trumper either but not 100%. He really might just be some guy who as they say, aren’t happy unless they’re sad.
If that’s the case he has my sympathy and I hope he sees someone to get some help as that’s an awful way to live.
iRONic
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cytg111
Lifer
- Mar 17, 2008
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I will join the pessimistic parade. I think Harris is going to pull it off but. But Bidens efforts towards normalization and working across the isle normalizing the atmosphere... has not been fruitful in normalizing shit... You are looking at project 2025 and its not going away cause conservative propaganda initiatives is so fucking effective that its still a dead heat even with Roe dead in the middle of the room and R be like "yea we did that... But dems wanna trans all your children".
On top of that R is taking double billionaire donations as dems are and it looks like that specific breed of billionaires is tired of not calling all the shots. Thiel Musk etc wants to straight up end democracy. You can find an actual Thiel quote on that.
Musks Twitter purchase was a straight up 44B donation to Trump.
Thiel is rocking Palentier.
And you got half a SC on board, two of them straight up treasonous.
And half your voting population wants this done stat.
Its almost like at the same time dems stepped up their game reps reraised all in...
By the time dems realize what game they're plaing... All I am saying is that it looks like the odds are stacked against you...
Hope I am wrong.
Indus
Lifer
- May 11, 2002
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Isn't national divorce the solution?
I want to be happy instead of always being angry/ depressed.. just keep your crazy shit in your crazy states.
kage69
Lifer
- Jul 17, 2003
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Works for me. But no half measures or fiction about who left what.
The people who are ditching American values and the Constitution for fascist traitors and a broken cross are free to emigrate to the dictatorship of their choice. That would create a lot of happiness I bet.
cytg111
Lifer
- Mar 17, 2008
- 25,882
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I think that would be much much worse... How you even do that without it going kinetic... Plus if you're in the 49% you're just mandated to move states?
balloonshark
Diamond Member
- Jun 5, 2008
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So what if your down wind or down stream from their unregulated utopia of yuck?
Indus
Lifer
- May 11, 2002
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If broke ass migrants can cross oceans to get to venezuela and from there walk across to the US barefoot..
If women can travel across states to have healthcare..
If people are willing to move from NYC to other states to have "better schools" for their kids *cough* CT *cough*..
don't you think you're overstating things??
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
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Are racists, fascists, misogynists etc specifically "broken"? Only part of Trump's base are the mouth-frothing fucking morons, and naturally they're the most visible. The rest just have their own reasons for supporting the GOP.
Indus
Lifer
- May 11, 2002
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What is most annoying is Dems and Obama gave Musk, Thiel billion dollar grants to get the economy back on track and make electric cars after 2008 crash.
And once they become successful.. who do they run to and profess their love to? Trump and the Republicans.
nickqt
Diamond Member
- Jan 15, 2015
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Those are some of the richest and most powerful Apartheid-Americans on the planet.
Republicans will allow them to keep their money as long as they support them. Oligarchs always want more money and power, they're aiming to be Aristocrats.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Could the Jewish people have separated from Germans under Hitler?
You are still contending with human nature. The answers are going to be the same.
The fascist regime they create will pursue territorial conquest and genocide.
Russia should have taught us all how this ends. It's the same story again and again.
If you’re going to advocate for a national divorce one of the big questions to answer is how you deal with the collapse of the economies in most red states.
Do you think those states are going to say ‘well it was your money anyway, blue states, please keep it’? I suspect not! So what will they do? I have no idea other than I doubt it is ‘give up blue state money quietly’. Most of the south would be plunged into a second Great Depression.
This is a fantastical conversation.
You have diehard MAGAstans in every single state.
What are they going to do? All move to the predominantly Red states, and the Democrats/nonbrainwashed “independents” move to the predominantly Blue states?
How are you going to deal with the bread basket of the central plains?
It’s an impossibility. We’re stuck living next door to these people.
@Jaskalas Russians, despite their displays of “toughness” they aren’t exactly gusto in their resistance. I think things would be a hell of a lot different here. Especially because of the 2nd amendment.
You have diehard MAGAstans in every single state.
What are they going to do? All move to the predominantly Red states, and the Democrats/nonbrainwashed “independents” move to the predominantly Blue states?
How are you going to deal with the bread basket of the central plains?
It’s an impossibility. We’re stuck living next door to these people.
@Jaskalas Russians, despite their displays of “toughness” they aren’t exactly gusto in their resistance. I think things would be a hell of a lot different here. Especially because of the 2nd amendment.
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Indus
Lifer
- May 11, 2002
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- 10,912
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Sounds just fucking fine to me and we can hire the migrants as border patrol!
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