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dlerious

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True about Biden being VP, but TBH, I think things were better under Obama than they were under the last 4 years of Biden. Obama left with a rescued economy from the Rep crisis, low inflation, less problems with immigration, and no major world conflicts. Very little actually to attack Biden on from Obama's record compared to the current situation.
The mortgage crisis, Occupy Wall Street, corporate bailouts, losing 1000 seats in state legislatures.
 
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At this point (come Nov. 5, 2024) any US citizen eligible to vote who has not taken advantage of the opportunity to vote for the first female president of the USA is in my view an ignoramus.
It's just exactly that keeping some people away.

"A woman President?"
 

Zorba

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House enlargement, while totally worthwhile, would not impact EC outcomes. It should be done away with entirely.
I agree it should be done away with entirely. But what analysis are you basing your claim on? If you enlarged the house, California and New York would get many more EC votes, while Wyoming and the Dakotas would get none or very few. This would give large population state much more representation in the EC.
 

IronWing

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Obama infamously was called the Deporter in Chief, so I'm not sure how you can say there were "less problems with immigration." The problem now is what it's been over multiple presidencies, although yes it's a little more severe.
The number of border-crossers is nowhere near what it was under the Shrub. In 2001-2004, crowds of people were literally walking past Border Patrol buses and continuing on their journeys because there wasn't enough room on the buses to apprehend them, mountains of backpacks left in the desert. Despite Border Patrol whining, they are more than fully staffed and there are far fewer crossers than twenty years ago.
 
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K1052

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I agree it should be done away with entirely. But what analysis are you basing your claim on? If you enlarged the house, California and New York would get many more EC votes, while Wyoming and the Dakotas would get none or very few. This would give large population state much more representation in the EC.

Here is one analysis where they basically model an implementation of the Wyoming Rule. It does change 2000 but no others in the last dozen elections. I guess I should have said rarely anyway at least.

https://www.amacad.org/ourcommonpurpose/enlarging-the-house/section/6
 
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manly

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I agree it should be done away with entirely. But what analysis are you basing your claim on? If you enlarged the house, California and New York would get many more EC votes, while Wyoming and the Dakotas would get none or very few. This would give large population state much more representation in the EC.
Wyoming would still be guaranteed 3 ECs. So although the ratio could be fairer than now, it would never be completely fair with any version of the Electoral College.

Also look at the top 4 population states: CA, TX, FL and NY. Two red, two blue so the net effect would be almost a wash.

The current setup where a WY voter has almost 4 times the EC juice of a CA voter is a sick joke though.
 

jdubs03

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Wyoming would still be guaranteed 3 ECs. So although the ratio could be fairer than now, it would never be completely fair with any version of the Electoral College.

Also look at the top 4 population states: CA, TX, FL and NY. Two red, two blue so the net effect would be almost a wash.

The current setup where a WY voter has almost 4 times the EC juice of a CA voter is a sick joke though.
Don’t forget them Dakotas, and Montana.
 

nOOky

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I'm so sick of the headlines, the spam text messages, and the spam emails. Two things we should do in this country for it's citizenry are remove daylight savings time, and limit political advertising to two weeks before an election. But we can't even agree on the DST thing (which is rapidly approaching) much less keep Russian spam off of Facebook or Twatter so here we are. Aren't you all just as fucking weary of this shit?

And the constant economic articles that MSN posts every day about gloom and doom that just generate clicks are so tiring. Even having to read the headline to know I should ignore it tiring. I hear McDonalds is hiring.
 

K1052

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I'm so sick of the headlines, the spam text messages, and the spam emails. Two things we should do in this country for it's citizenry are remove daylight savings time, and limit political advertising to two weeks before an election. But we can't even agree on the DST thing (which is rapidly approaching) much less keep Russian spam off of Facebook or Twatter so here we are. Aren't you all just as fucking weary of this shit?

And the constant economic articles that MSN posts every day about gloom and doom that just generate clicks are so tiring. Even having to read the headline to know I should ignore it tiring. I hear McDonalds is hiring.

Getting Citizens United reversed would really help a lot.
 
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My first day in, I'd have a sit down with the heads of Congress and work out a plan to overturn and correct each and every wrong SCOTUS ruling over the last 30 years.

CU, Hobby Lobby, Chevron, Affirmative Action and several others that have limited government agency powers would all be targeted. What did the court say was wrong, what wording did they say was missing, or included that shouldn't have been. Use their own rulings to rewite laws to overturn their decisions.
 
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fskimospy

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My first day in, I'd have a sit down with the heads of Congress and work out a plan to overturn and correct each and every wrong SCOTUS ruling over the last 30 years.

CU, Hobby Lobby, Chevron, Affirmative Action and several others that have limited government agency powers would all be targeted. What did the court say was wrong, what wording did they say was missing, or included that shouldn't have been. Use their own rulings to rewite laws to overturn their decisions.
First day answer from Senate Republicans: 'No, we like it this way'.

Only way through is to await the next Democratic trifecta and eliminate the filibuster.
 

K1052

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My first day in, I'd have a sit down with the heads of Congress and work out a plan to overturn and correct each and every wrong SCOTUS ruling over the last 30 years.

CU, Hobby Lobby, Chevron, Affirmative Action and several others that have limited government agency powers would all be targeted. What did the court say was wrong, what wording did they say was missing, or included that shouldn't have been. Use their own rulings to rewite laws to overturn their decisions.

To make any of this stick you need to pack the court first thing.
 
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IronWing

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Getting Citizens United reversed would really help a lot.
While Citizens United is bad, things were pretty shitty before that ruling. The ability of television to command vast revenues for running ads, far beyond anything newspapers of old ever dreamed, changed the political landscape. Now the most consumed media is also the primary beneficiary of campaign spending. "Campaign spending is at record levels and we absolutely love it!" is news that media companies want their investors to hear.
 

Stokely

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Agree with DST and the two week thing.

As far as Xitter and Xitbook, the easy solution is not to fricking read them. My stress levels went down after ditching almost all social media. Some forums (that have various degrees of moderation and most importantly an ignore function to banish trolls) are all I have now. Even those I've been using less these days. Just not worth working myself over something out of my control. This country is full of misinformed rubes and that's how it is.

If someone has something urgent to say and are using Xitter, screw you I'll find that info somewhere else. I won't pull it up until that asshat Musk isn't going to benefit from my eyeballs.
 

fskimospy

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To make any of this stick you need to pack the court first thing.
Also true. All you need to see the fundamental bad faith is to look at the student loan forgiveness ruling. When it comes to Chevron, the major questions doctrine, etc. SCOTUS' common refrain is Congress didn't speak clearly enough on the issue therefore agency rule X or whatever is invalidated. That's of course a joke and no way to run a country but it COULD have at least been logically consistent. Enter student loan forgiveness, where I literally cannot think of a way for Congress to have written the statute more clearly yet sure enough, SCOTUS decided they needed to speak even more clearly (in ways they never define).

There is no law you can write that SCOTUS cannot Calvinball their way to a preferred outcome on. The only way to stop this is to use the checks and balances in the Constitution to show SCOTUS that extreme actions like theirs have consequences. They abused their power and so it needs to be taken away.
 

K1052

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While Citizens United is bad, things were pretty shitty before that ruling. The ability of television to command vast revenues for running ads, far beyond anything newspapers of old ever dreamed, changed the political landscape. Now the most consumed media is also the primary beneficiary of campaign spending. "Campaign spending is at record levels and we absolutely love it!" is news that media companies want their investors to hear.

PAC spending has been like a hydrogen bomb of cash dropped on TV station owners in swing states.