Kamala vs the Orange Felon - Presidential Race 2024 - Polls, News, Etc...

[Indus]

It is MAGA holding their enemy to a higher standard.

Media holding her to an impossible standard because they want their billions in tax cuts.

BTW don't forget how good the media had it under Obama.. they could say anything and he wouldn't say anything or just "Guys you have more common sense than that" and they just used his soft touch as a license to manufacture all kinds of shit that everyone since has had to put up with.. except their orange dictator who they feel they can control on Faux and Friends!

 

[Jaskalas]

Fox hid Trump's own words from people.
Fox lies.

The proper take on the Fox Interview:

Youtube: Lawrence: Bret Baier lied, and Kamala Harris forcefully responds

 

[gothuevos]

Ok well this makes me feel better about all the "betting markets" talk.

Nothing is real anymore, it seems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846915308985925837

 

[ivwshane]

I’ll add, the only people upset about her not focusing on how she would be different from Biden, the policy details etc is the media

They were upset about her not doing interviews… and then now that she’s doing them, they have to find new reasons to be upset

What kind of great policy details has Trump been sharing? How many primetime interviews has he done recently on major networks? Dude just turned a rally into a 45 minute music concert for the vibes.

I think she should be running on a continuation of Biden’s policies as the numbers behind them say they are working pretty well.

 

[K1052]

I think she should be running on a continuation of Biden’s policies as the numbers behind them say they are working pretty well.

People definitely do not want to hear that even if it is empirically true.

 

[MrSquished]

People definitely do not want to hear that even if it is empirically true.

That's one thing that has me critical of Kamala - she's been asked a few times about doing things differently and she has simply said basically - she wouldn't have. Dumb answer. She should have a couple small things to say she would have considered doing differently, no administration is perfect and it looks silly to pretend that it was all done perfect in hindsight. Loyalty is nice, but that has limits. She missed a good opportunity by simply doubling down on it was all done right.

 

[K1052]

That's one thing that has me critical of Kamala - she's been asked a few times about doing things differently and she has simply said basically - she wouldn't have. Dumb answer. She should have a couple small things to say she would have considered doing differently, no administration is perfect and it looks silly to pretend that it was all done perfect in hindsight. Loyalty is nice, but that has limits. She missed a good opportunity by simply doubling down on it was all done right.

She should have had a better answer for this but there is a core of the party that would be cranky and make a lot of noise if she broke too heavily with Biden. It's a tough thing to balance. Swing voters certainly don't want to hear that things are going relatively well, I think we've proven that by now. For their part Trump's campaign has not really capitalized on this mostly because their candidate can't stay on message and has poor self control.

 

[MrSquished]

She should have had a better answer for this but there is a core of the party that would be cranky and make a lot of noise if she broke too heavily with Biden. It's a tough thing to balance. Swing voters certainly don't want to hear that things are going relatively well, I think we've proven that by now. For their part Trump's campaign has not really capitalized on this mostly because their candidate can't stay on message and has poor self control.

Well like I said, she should have a few small things prepared to say, in no way do I want her to shit on Biden. It shows strength and leadership to accept that there were mistakes made. This is just reality and the actual truth. And if you want to get politically calculating about it also makes a lot of sense when you are talking about a very very unpopular incumbent.

 

[GoPackGo]

She can say she wouldn't have done anything different, but hindsight is 20/20. But tell people any mistakes are lessons learned for the future.

 

[K1052]

She can say she wouldn't have done anything different, but hindsight is 20/20. But tell people any mistakes are lessons learned for the future.

I think the best choice would to be some variation of her "I'm not Joe Biden. I'm my own person." and launch into her proposals like marijuana legalization and expanding Medicare for home care for the aging which are more specifically her policies than Biden's.

 

[nakedfrog]

The progression:
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I like this reaction from the guy too. When Trump said it was "peaceful".

 

[Muse]

Trump's replies are for the uninformed. He formulates his responses in the Valhalla of what he wants them to accept, evidence is not a concern because he can't be bothered to access it. He's the worst practitioner of this ever. The sooner we're over him the better.

 

[K1052]

Another oversample of Hispanic voters indicates a basically identical environment to what Pew and Catalist showed as the splits from 2020.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846936644794175643

 

[Indus]

Another oversample of Hispanic voters indicates a basically identical environment to what Pew and Catalist showed as the splits from 2020.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846936644794175643

Next conspiracy theory.. Cubanos are not Latinos!

 

[ondma]

Did you watch any of her Fox interview? Abortion never came up. She was confronted with border stuff (read from interviewer's notes, he was a deer in the headlights) and parried the jabs artfully and articulately.

No, I didnt watch the Fox interview. But, maybe, she could, you know, actually say how she will solve the problem????

 

[ondma]

Always funny watching the post game reactions to these...both sides obviously always claim total victory. Seemed more like a draw, he got to pin her down on immigration but she never really answered anything but instead put the spotlight back on Trump. That's fine, it's a strategy and you can see it in her campaign the past several weeks.

Yea, but the problem with that is that anybody but a hard core Trumper knows already what a piece of work he is. Bashing him will not convince his supporters to defect, and I dont think at this point it is going to sway many of the undecided either. As the polls show, most people know who Trump is. I would like more specific policies from Harris about how she plans to solve immigration, crime, and the economy. She needs to convince the republicans/independents who wont support Trump, but still will not vote for a Democrat, that they should in fact vote for her, and that she is not some crazy left wing lunatic.

 

[fskimospy]

Yea, but the problem with that is that anybody but a hard core Trumper knows already what a piece of work he is. Bashing him will not convince his supporters to defect, and I dont think at this point it is going to sway many of the undecided either. As the polls show, most people know who Trump is. I would like more specific policies from Harris about how she plans to solve immigration, crime, and the economy. She needs to convince the republicans/independents who wont support Trump, but still will not vote for a Democrat, that they should in fact vote for her, and that she is not some crazy left wing lunatic.

1) Immigration: pass the bipartisan border bill Republicans blocked. Also, expand guest worker policies.
2) Crime: crime has been dropping for years now. It's also overwhelmingly not a federal issue.
3) Economy: the last several years have seen strong wage growth, low unemployment, and now low inflation. What part of it are you looking for her to solve?

 

[ondma]

I think she should be running on a continuation of Biden’s policies as the numbers behind them say they are working pretty well.

Really? We have a serious immigration problem, we had horrible inflation, which granted is coming down, and two major world conflicts, either of which (especially Israel) could explode into a major war at any time. It is hard to say how much Biden is responsible for these, but I think she needs to distance herself somewhat from Biden without, if possible, throwing him under the bus.

 

[JujuFish]

Really? We have a serious immigration problem,

Which the Republicans refused to do anything about.

we had horrible inflation, which granted is coming down,

Which the entire first world had, and had it worse than the US (aside from Japan, which is going through their own economic crisis because they have a workforce problem).

and two major world conflicts, either of which (especially Israel) could explode into a major war at any time. It is hard to say how much Biden is responsible for these,

Where is the ounce of logic here? Biden isn't responsible for either of those wars. I can't even fathom what your thought process is on this at all.

 

[fskimospy]

Really? We have a serious immigration problem, we had horrible inflation, which granted is coming down, and two major world conflicts, either of which (especially Israel) could explode into a major war at any time. It is hard to say how much Biden is responsible for these, but I think she needs to distance herself somewhat from Biden without, if possible, throwing him under the bus.

I think it's smart politically to create some daylight between herself and Biden but as far as policy proposals go that's a tough one as generally speaking their economic policies have been very effective and immigration is one they proposed a policy solution for that Republicans shot down.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

OK, so she's either insane .....

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... or implying he'll do it bey force. 'Be nice to me or else !!!!'

 

[manly]

Oh yeah that's right, Biden is CiC of the IDF and he also mind-fucked Vladdy into invading Ukraine.

Also the 2.6% CPI print (or whatever it recently is, I don't keep track) is merely "coming down."

 

[gothuevos]

2) Crime: crime has been dropping for years now. It's also overwhelmingly not a federal issue.

As far as immigration goes, each party treats it like a political football and both have had recent trifectas but decided not to address it.

Economy: generally doing ok, but prices are still high which is not a Biden/Harris issue, but it's what people see and feel, this the vibes.

Crime:

FBI revises crime data, reveals increase after initial decline reported

The FBI has revised its 2022 crime data, initially reporting a 2.1% decrease in violent crime, which has jumped to an increase of 4.5%.

san.com

 

[ondma]

1) Immigration: pass the bipartisan border bill Republicans blocked. Also, expand guest worker policies.
2) Crime: crime has been dropping for years now. It's also overwhelmingly not a federal issue.
3) Economy: the last several years have seen strong wage growth, low unemployment, and now low inflation. What part of it are you looking for her to solve?

1. I agree. Unfortunately, the Dems will need both houses of Congress, which seems unlikely to happen.
2. Statistics may show crime is down, but people don't feel that way. The Dems need to make a stronger effort to emphasize crime is down, and convince people it is true. TBH, even though statistics show crime is down, in the area in which I live, there definitely seems to be more small time theft such as property crimes than there was in the past.
3. Well that is the problem really. If you are asset rich, i.e. own stocks and a house, you are probably doing well. However, those just starting out in life, or those without a lot of assets face serious problems with food, energy, housing, and medical care prices. And even though inflation has eased, prices are not coming down to more manageable levels, barring an economic collapse. Maybe Harris could say, "You know, even though the economy is doing well by some metrics, I know people are still hurting because of high prices. That is why I am going to propose, wait for it, an across the board tax cut for middle income earners."

 

[K1052]

For some unknowable reason Trump appears to be campaigning in the Bronx today.