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[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

While looking for that, I stumbled on this:

Here's who would benefit from Trump's proposed tax break on car loan interest​

CNBC on MSN.com|3 days ago
A tax deduction on car-loan interest proposed by former president Donald Trump would likely benefit wealthier taxpayers who buy expensive cars, experts said.

 

[fskimospy]

While looking for that, I stumbled on this:

Here's who would benefit from Trump's proposed tax break on car loan interest​

CNBC on MSN.com|3 days ago
A tax deduction on car-loan interest proposed by former president Donald Trump would likely benefit wealthier taxpayers who buy expensive cars, experts said.

Of course it would. At this point with the increased standard deduction tax deductions by and large do not help middle class people.

These days when you see ‘itemized deduction’ that generally means ‘tax break for rich people’.

 

[MrSquished]

Tax rates on the wealthy were much higher in the past and they were still filthy rich and doing fine, and we built America much better then

 

[ivwshane]

Really? We have a serious immigration problem, we had horrible inflation, which granted is coming down, and two major world conflicts, either of which (especially Israel) could explode into a major war at any time. It is hard to say how much Biden is responsible for these, but I think she needs to distance herself somewhat from Biden without, if possible, throwing him under the bus.

You need to get out of your bubble. Have you even looked at the stats at all?

 

[ivwshane]

Well, I don't want to sound like I am pushing Rep talking points, but I live in Minneapolis, and the police force is down 30 percent in manpower from the pre Covid numbers. It is difficult to get an officer to come out for anything less than a serious crime. So lower reporting could account for some of the "decrease". OTOH, social media sites that report every minor incident could also be contributing to the feeling that crime is up.

You are literally repeating Republican talking points and you are referencing social media, you couldn’t be more in a bubble if you tried.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I'd like to see the Part B premium eliminated for incomes under $X.00

 

[manly]

It is true that high income earners pay the large majority of federal income tax.

That being said this is a misleading statistic as you allude to as if you look at overall tax burden (federal, state, local) as compared to share of national income the rich still pay more, but not a lot more. Given marginal utility factors we should definitely tax the rich more.

I actually oppose student debt relief, at least as currently done. I’m down with cancelling student debt so long as it comes with reforms to the system so debt doesn’t just pile up again. That hasn’t happened though, so we treated the symptom and not the disease.

As I said, I normally don't doubt your facts. I glanced at the numbers and the top 50% of filers makes about 90% of total AGI and pays 97.7% of federal income tax. Overall burden aside, I still maintain that the middle class pays a fair share of federal income tax; but you were right that broad tax cuts will be quite small in dollars for middle class earners.

Agreed with you wholeheartedly on student debt relief; I had confused you with another poster.

 

[Indus]

You need to get out of your bubble. Have you even looked at the stats at all?

You are literally repeating Republican talking points and you are referencing social media, you couldn’t be more in a bubble if you tried.

Proof more than anything that we live in 2 different countries that're overlapping and they don't think anything alike.

The damage from the Russian brainwashing operation isn't fixable for maybe generations or possibly without a national divorce.

 

[ivwshane]

Proof more than anything that we live in 2 different countries that're overlapping and they don't think anything alike.

The damage from the Russian brainwashing operation isn't fixable for maybe generations or possibly without a national divorce.

I don’t recall that poster exhibiting such low information behavior before so it’s odd to see them make such statements.

 

[manly]

I don’t recall that poster exhibiting such low information behavior before so it’s odd to see them make such statements.

ondma? He's been extremely consistent on these talking points for nearly the past year.
My honest opinion, he doesn't seem like an actual bad guy and he's not MAGA. If he lived in one of the Rust Belt battlegrounds, he'd actually be the highly coveted "swing voter" that Harris must win over to win the election. But alas he's in the Twin Cities, so it doesn't really matter who he votes for.

 

[brycejones]

Yeah it doesn't make sense but the receipt charges a different %.

Anyways I'm not sure what pisses me off more.. that or these people:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1845565724946808838

Jews for Hitler is a look.

 

[Moonbeam]

Also, what you're suggesting is basically what Biden and Harris have said for a long time now. I think they would be better off politically by trumpeting the successes as opposed to apologizing.

People who hate themselves, which would all voters, blame others for engaging in their own self destructive rendencies that result from having been made to believe as children they were worthless and lack the knowledge that one way to deal with that is to face the truth of it. And everybody knows that's not going to happen without a long learning curve and the availability in their lives of real knowledge.

The result. of course, is that everybody is playing games pretending they are no better off than the next guy, We apologize for everything and pretend it's all our fault because we know what we would do to anybody who said he or she had a solution to everything. What happened to Jesus when he brought the good news and a claim went out he was the Son of God. You are one of the saner people who post here in my opinion. I thank you so very much for what you do for sanity here. Please step forward and acknowledge the truth of what I say by admitting to being a true paragon of rationality.

The message is out there. Never attract any positive attention.

 

[Indus]

I don’t recall that poster exhibiting such low information behavior before so it’s odd to see them make such statements.

Yeah that's the kind of shock I face sometimes.. like people I knew suddenly repeating stuff because of migrants or tax cuts.. like I didn't know they hated immigrants so much or were turning into billionaires.

But the transformation is scary and real!

It's a bit prophetic too if I'm honest.. "they're bringing crime.. they're bringing drugs.. and some I guess are good people.." and forward 8 years.. that resonates more than it did in 2016.. at least in NY or other liberal areas, where ever Texas shipped em to.

Our coworkers, our business contacts, sometimes much closer like neighbors. I still think they have gotten their heads up their asses though.


Reminds me a bit of that Joker quote from The Dark Knight, "You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve."

 

[fskimospy]

ondma? He's been extremely consistent on these talking points for nearly the past year.
My honest opinion, he doesn't seem like an actual bad guy and he's not MAGA. If he lived in one of the Rust Belt battlegrounds, he'd actually be the highly coveted "swing voter" that Harris must win over to win the election. But alas he's in the Twin Cities, so it doesn't really matter who he votes for.

I agree. I think he is misguided but he’s an honest player.

 

[trenchfoot]

From what I've seen she did perfectly fine in the Fox interview. Faced down a hostile interviewer, didn't make any significant mistakes, and pretty effectively rebutted loaded questions.

Trump would never sit for something like this now.

I thought about Rachel Maddow interviewing Trump and realized how she would strip him buck nekkid holding his weewee in his widdle hand while sucking his thumb with the other as he lay on the floor in a fetal position. Yeah, never going to happen fer sure although I'd pay to see her interview him if it ever did.

 

[MrSquished]

ondma is just gothuevos first cousin - they are both eggs from chicken sisters

 

[fskimospy]

I thought about Rachel Maddow interviewing Trump and realized how she would strip him buck nekkid holding his weewee in his widdle hand while sucking his thumb with the other as he lay on the floor in a fetal position. Yeah, never going to happen fer sure although I'd pay to see her interview him if it ever did.

You may have some unaddressed sexual issues.

 

[BoomerD]

While looking for that, I stumbled on this:

Here's who would benefit from Trump's proposed tax break on car loan interest​

CNBC on MSN.com|3 days ago
A tax deduction on car-loan interest proposed by former president Donald Trump would likely benefit wealthier taxpayers who buy expensive cars, experts said.

Hey...sign me up for....wait. I have a 0% interest car loan. Never mind.

 

[trenchfoot]

You may have some unaddressed sexual issues.

It's much broader than that. My imagination hath no bounds. Thinking outside the box is where most of my time is spent solving problems. My curiosity of why things are the way they are is just as compelling. Tether that to the level of which I despise Trump and well, there you go.

 

[Muse]

No, I didnt watch the Fox interview. But, maybe, she could, you know, actually say how she will solve the problem????

She's said multiple times that she's eager to sign the legislation that Trump directed Johnson to torpedo so Trump would have an issue he can flog all the way to November. The man has no shame. To governor of Georgia: "Find me 11,000 votes."

 

[Muse]

I dont recall Biden or Harris proposing an across the board middle class tax cut. They have proposed credits for specific groups, but an across the board cut would make everyone at at least feel like the administration cared about them and was trying to help, instead of just helping certain groups.

The Trump tariffs are an across the board tax increase for the middle class. So, even Democrats not decreasing current middle class tax rates would be better for them than they'd suffer with a Trump administration.

 

[Muse]

Of course it would. At this point with the increased standard deduction tax deductions by and large do not help middle class people.

These days when you see ‘itemized deduction’ that generally means ‘tax break for rich people’.

Every year I figure out my itemized deductions and every year Turbotax tells me I should take the standard deduction. I can't remember when my work was used.

 

[MrSquished]

a little levity in this hellish time

Kamala HQ (@kamalahq) on Threads

Vice President Harris to MAGA hecklers: “Oh you guys are at the wrong rally. I think you meant to go to the smaller one down the street” 🔥🔥🔥

www.threads.net

 

[dank69]

Well, I don't want to sound like I am pushing Rep talking points, but I live in Minneapolis, and the police force is down 30 percent in manpower from the pre Covid numbers. It is difficult to get an officer to come out for anything less than a serious crime. So lower reporting could account for some of the "decrease". OTOH, social media sites that report every minor incident could also be contributing to the feeling that crime is up.

Police are a terrible solution to crime. If they manage to arrive to an active crime scene they are as likely to make things worse as they are to be of any actual help. You want crime to come down? Address poverty issues instead.

 

[brycejones]

Police are a terrible solution to crime. If they manage to arrive to an active crime scene they are as likely to make things worse as they are to be of any actual help. You want crime to come down? Address poverty issues instead.

But that’s a communism and ondama is already pissed about feeding kids at school and paying for infrastructure.